Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab

2007-01-12 Thread mark ford


Easy!

Don't try this at home!

Get a charged car battery and some 'wire wool', spray the wire wool with a 
small amount if silicone oil.

drop some of the wool on the battery terminals, voila ball lightning, lasts for 
a second or so. You need to experiment on the amounts of wool to use.

As I said though don't try this it's dangerous, I know I did it when I was a 
kid!!!


Mark


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Is this really new stuff? I watched Bolas Luminosas
and they looked almost identical to something I saw
years ago on some BBC documentary about lightning.
Some Scientist used a couple of hundred Decomissioned
submarine batteries to generate sparks and got the
same effect. I remember showing the video to kids I
taught 7-8 years ago.

Rob McC


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http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19325863.500
 
 Lightning balls created in the lab
 Hazel Muir
 New Scientist
 10 January 2007
 
 Ball lightning could soon lose its status as a
 mystery, now that a team
 in Brazil has cooked up a simple recipe for making
 similar eerie orbs of
 light in the lab, even getting them to bounce around
 for several
 seconds. Watch a movie of the boucing balls here.
 http://www.espacociencia.pe.gov.br/multimidia.php
 
 Thousands of people have reported seeing ball
 lightning, a luminous
 sphere that sometimes appears during thunderstorms.
 It is typically the
 size of a grapefruit and lasts for a few seconds or
 minutes, sometimes
 hovering, even bouncing along the ground.
 
 One eyewitness saw a glowing ball burn through the
 screen door of a
 house in Oregon, navigate down to the basement and
 wreck an old mangle,
 while in another report, a similar orb bounced on a
 Russian teacher's
 head more than 20 times before vanishing.
 
 One theory suggests that ball lightning is a highly
 ionised blob of
 plasma held together by its own magnetic fields,
 while an exotic
 explanation claims the cause is mini black holes
 created in the big bang.
 
 A more down-to-earth theory, proposed by John
 Abrahamson and James
 Dinniss at the University of Canterbury in
 Christchurch, New Zealand, is
 that ball lightning forms when lightning strikes
 soil, turning any
 silica in the soil into pure silicon vapour. As the
 vapour cools, the
 silicon condenses into a floating aerosol bound into
 a ball by charges
 that gather on its surface, and it glows with the
 heat of silicon
 recombining with oxygen.
 
 To test this idea, a team led by Antonio Pavao and
 Gerson Paiva from the
 Federal University of Pernambuco in Brazil took
 wafers of silicon just
 350 micrometres thick, placed them between two
 electrodes and zapped
 them with currents of up to 140 amps. Then over a
 couple of seconds,
 they moved the electrodes slightly apart, creating
 an electrical arc
 that vaporised the silicon.
 
 The arc spat out glowing fragments of silicon but
 also, sometimes,
 luminous orbs the size of ping-pong balls that
 persisted for up to 8
 seconds. The luminous balls seem to be alive, says
 Pavao. He says
 their fuzzy surfaces emitted little jets that seemed
 to jerk them
 forward or sideways, as well as smoke trails that
 formed spiral shapes,
 suggesting the balls were spinning. From their
 blue-white or
 orange-white colour, Pavao's team estimates that
 they have a temperature
 of roughly 2000 kelvin. The balls were able to melt
 plastic, and one
 even burned a hole in Paiva's jeans.
 
 These are by far the longest-lived glowing balls
 ever made in the lab.
 Earlier experiments using microwaves created
 luminous balls
 but they disappeared milliseconds after the
 microwaves were switched off.
 
 The lifetimes of our fireballs are about a hundred
 or more times higher
 than that obtained by microwaves, says Pavao, whose
 findings will
 appear in Physical Review Letters. Abrahamson is
 thrilled. It made my
 year when I heard about it, he says. The balls,
 although still small,
 lasted long enough to come into the mainstream of
 observed natural ball
 lightning.
 
 Pavao's team is currently working out the chemical
 reactions involved in
 the balls' formation, and experimenting with other
 materials that might
 work too, including pure metals, alloys and sulphur
 compounds.
 
 From issue 2586 of New Scientist magazine, 10
 January 2007, page 12
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab

2007-01-12 Thread Ingo Herkstroeter
Hi List!

I remember that you can have a lot of fun with wire wool and a microwave
oven. Also a nice lightning ball! 
But don't forget to throw the microwave away later; it won't be useful
any more after that treatment. ;)  

Ingo

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Easy!

Don't try this at home!

Get a charged car battery and some 'wire wool', spray the wire wool with
a small amount if silicone oil.

drop some of the wool on the battery terminals, voila ball lightning,
lasts for a second or so. You need to experiment on the amounts of wool
to use.

As I said though don't try this it's dangerous, I know I did it when I
was a kid!!!


Mark


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Sent: 12 January 2007 02:05
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab

Is this really new stuff? I watched Bolas Luminosas
and they looked almost identical to something I saw
years ago on some BBC documentary about lightning.
Some Scientist used a couple of hundred Decomissioned
submarine batteries to generate sparks and got the
same effect. I remember showing the video to kids I
taught 7-8 years ago.

Rob McC


--- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 They look like the ideal pets for Dave Harris in the
 video
 
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 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 The Lab
 
 

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19325863.500
 
 Lightning balls created in the lab
 Hazel Muir
 New Scientist
 10 January 2007
 
 Ball lightning could soon lose its status as a
 mystery, now that a team
 in Brazil has cooked up a simple recipe for making
 similar eerie orbs of
 light in the lab, even getting them to bounce around
 for several
 seconds. Watch a movie of the boucing balls here.
 http://www.espacociencia.pe.gov.br/multimidia.php
 
 Thousands of people have reported seeing ball
 lightning, a luminous
 sphere that sometimes appears during thunderstorms.
 It is typically the
 size of a grapefruit and lasts for a few seconds or
 minutes, sometimes
 hovering, even bouncing along the ground.
 
 One eyewitness saw a glowing ball burn through the
 screen door of a
 house in Oregon, navigate down to the basement and
 wreck an old mangle,
 while in another report, a similar orb bounced on a
 Russian teacher's
 head more than 20 times before vanishing.
 
 One theory suggests that ball lightning is a highly
 ionised blob of
 plasma held together by its own magnetic fields,
 while an exotic
 explanation claims the cause is mini black holes
 created in the big bang.
 
 A more down-to-earth theory, proposed by John
 Abrahamson and James
 Dinniss at the University of Canterbury in
 Christchurch, New Zealand, is
 that ball lightning forms when lightning strikes
 soil, turning any
 silica in the soil into pure silicon vapour. As the
 vapour cools, the
 silicon condenses into a floating aerosol bound into
 a ball by charges
 that gather on its surface, and it glows with the
 heat of silicon
 recombining with oxygen.
 
 To test this idea, a team led by Antonio Pavao and
 Gerson Paiva from the
 Federal University of Pernambuco in Brazil took
 wafers of silicon just
 350 micrometres thick, placed them between two
 electrodes and zapped
 them with currents of up to 140 amps. Then over a
 couple of seconds,
 they moved the electrodes slightly apart, creating
 an electrical arc
 that vaporised the silicon.
 
 The arc spat out glowing fragments of silicon but
 also, sometimes,
 luminous orbs the size of ping-pong balls that
 persisted for up to 8
 seconds. The luminous balls seem to be alive, says
 Pavao. He says
 their fuzzy surfaces emitted little jets that seemed
 to jerk them
 forward or sideways, as well as smoke trails that
 formed spiral shapes,
 suggesting the balls were spinning. From their
 blue-white or
 orange-white colour, Pavao's team estimates that
 they have a temperature
 of roughly 2000 kelvin. The balls were able to melt
 plastic, and one
 even burned a hole in Paiva's jeans.
 
 These are by far the longest-lived glowing balls
 ever made in the lab.
 Earlier experiments using microwaves created
 luminous balls
 but they disappeared milliseconds after the
 microwaves were switched off.
 
 The lifetimes of our fireballs are about a hundred
 or more times higher
 than that obtained by microwaves, says Pavao, whose
 findings will
 appear in Physical Review Letters. Abrahamson is
 thrilled. It made my
 year when I heard about it, he says. The balls,
 although still small

Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab

2007-01-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:28:53 +0100, you wrote:

Hi List!

I remember that you can have a lot of fun with wire wool and a microwave
oven. Also a nice lightning ball! 
But don't forget to throw the microwave away later; it won't be useful
any more after that treatment. ;)  

I posted these links to the list, but they seemed to have never made it:


http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/cwillis/microwave.html

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~reginald/ball_l.html

http://apache.airnet.com.au/~fastinfo/microwave/ball.html

http://amasci.com/weird/microwave/voltage2.html
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[meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab

2007-01-11 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19325863.500

Lightning balls created in the lab
Hazel Muir
New Scientist
10 January 2007

Ball lightning could soon lose its status as a mystery, now that a team
in Brazil has cooked up a simple recipe for making similar eerie orbs of
light in the lab, even getting them to bounce around for several
seconds. Watch a movie of the boucing balls here.
http://www.espacociencia.pe.gov.br/multimidia.php

Thousands of people have reported seeing ball lightning, a luminous
sphere that sometimes appears during thunderstorms. It is typically the
size of a grapefruit and lasts for a few seconds or minutes, sometimes
hovering, even bouncing along the ground.

One eyewitness saw a glowing ball burn through the screen door of a
house in Oregon, navigate down to the basement and wreck an old mangle,
while in another report, a similar orb bounced on a Russian teacher's
head more than 20 times before vanishing.

One theory suggests that ball lightning is a highly ionised blob of
plasma held together by its own magnetic fields, while an exotic
explanation claims the cause is mini black holes created in the big bang.

A more down-to-earth theory, proposed by John Abrahamson and James
Dinniss at the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, New Zealand, is
that ball lightning forms when lightning strikes soil, turning any
silica in the soil into pure silicon vapour. As the vapour cools, the
silicon condenses into a floating aerosol bound into a ball by charges
that gather on its surface, and it glows with the heat of silicon
recombining with oxygen.

To test this idea, a team led by Antonio Pavao and Gerson Paiva from the
Federal University of Pernambuco in Brazil took wafers of silicon just
350 micrometres thick, placed them between two electrodes and zapped
them with currents of up to 140 amps. Then over a couple of seconds,
they moved the electrodes slightly apart, creating an electrical arc
that vaporised the silicon.

The arc spat out glowing fragments of silicon but also, sometimes,
luminous orbs the size of ping-pong balls that persisted for up to 8
seconds. The luminous balls seem to be alive, says Pavao. He says
their fuzzy surfaces emitted little jets that seemed to jerk them
forward or sideways, as well as smoke trails that formed spiral shapes,
suggesting the balls were spinning. From their blue-white or
orange-white colour, Pavao's team estimates that they have a temperature
of roughly 2000 kelvin. The balls were able to melt plastic, and one
even burned a hole in Paiva's jeans.

These are by far the longest-lived glowing balls ever made in the lab.
Earlier experiments using microwaves created luminous balls
but they disappeared milliseconds after the microwaves were switched off.

The lifetimes of our fireballs are about a hundred or more times higher
than that obtained by microwaves, says Pavao, whose findings will
appear in Physical Review Letters. Abrahamson is thrilled. It made my
year when I heard about it, he says. The balls, although still small,
lasted long enough to come into the mainstream of observed natural ball
lightning.

Pavao's team is currently working out the chemical reactions involved in
the balls' formation, and experimenting with other materials that might
work too, including pure metals, alloys and sulphur compounds.

From issue 2586 of New Scientist magazine, 10 January 2007, page 12

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Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab

2007-01-11 Thread Martin Altmann

They look like the ideal pets for Dave Harris in the video

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http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19325863.500

Lightning balls created in the lab
Hazel Muir
New Scientist
10 January 2007

Ball lightning could soon lose its status as a mystery, now that a team
in Brazil has cooked up a simple recipe for making similar eerie orbs of
light in the lab, even getting them to bounce around for several
seconds. Watch a movie of the boucing balls here.
http://www.espacociencia.pe.gov.br/multimidia.php

Thousands of people have reported seeing ball lightning, a luminous
sphere that sometimes appears during thunderstorms. It is typically the
size of a grapefruit and lasts for a few seconds or minutes, sometimes
hovering, even bouncing along the ground.

One eyewitness saw a glowing ball burn through the screen door of a
house in Oregon, navigate down to the basement and wreck an old mangle,
while in another report, a similar orb bounced on a Russian teacher's
head more than 20 times before vanishing.

One theory suggests that ball lightning is a highly ionised blob of
plasma held together by its own magnetic fields, while an exotic
explanation claims the cause is mini black holes created in the big bang.

A more down-to-earth theory, proposed by John Abrahamson and James
Dinniss at the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, New Zealand, is
that ball lightning forms when lightning strikes soil, turning any
silica in the soil into pure silicon vapour. As the vapour cools, the
silicon condenses into a floating aerosol bound into a ball by charges
that gather on its surface, and it glows with the heat of silicon
recombining with oxygen.

To test this idea, a team led by Antonio Pavao and Gerson Paiva from the
Federal University of Pernambuco in Brazil took wafers of silicon just
350 micrometres thick, placed them between two electrodes and zapped
them with currents of up to 140 amps. Then over a couple of seconds,
they moved the electrodes slightly apart, creating an electrical arc
that vaporised the silicon.

The arc spat out glowing fragments of silicon but also, sometimes,
luminous orbs the size of ping-pong balls that persisted for up to 8
seconds. The luminous balls seem to be alive, says Pavao. He says
their fuzzy surfaces emitted little jets that seemed to jerk them
forward or sideways, as well as smoke trails that formed spiral shapes,
suggesting the balls were spinning. From their blue-white or
orange-white colour, Pavao's team estimates that they have a temperature
of roughly 2000 kelvin. The balls were able to melt plastic, and one
even burned a hole in Paiva's jeans.

These are by far the longest-lived glowing balls ever made in the lab.
Earlier experiments using microwaves created luminous balls
but they disappeared milliseconds after the microwaves were switched off.

The lifetimes of our fireballs are about a hundred or more times higher
than that obtained by microwaves, says Pavao, whose findings will
appear in Physical Review Letters. Abrahamson is thrilled. It made my
year when I heard about it, he says. The balls, although still small,
lasted long enough to come into the mainstream of observed natural ball
lightning.

Pavao's team is currently working out the chemical reactions involved in
the balls' formation, and experimenting with other materials that might
work too, including pure metals, alloys and sulphur compounds.

From issue 2586 of New Scientist magazine, 10 January 2007, page 12

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Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab

2007-01-11 Thread Rob McCafferty
Is this really new stuff? I watched Bolas Luminosas
and they looked almost identical to something I saw
years ago on some BBC documentary about lightning.
Some Scientist used a couple of hundred Decomissioned
submarine batteries to generate sparks and got the
same effect. I remember showing the video to kids I
taught 7-8 years ago.

Rob McC


--- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 They look like the ideal pets for Dave Harris in the
 video
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 18:50
 An: Meteorite Mailing List
 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In
 The Lab
 
 

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19325863.500
 
 Lightning balls created in the lab
 Hazel Muir
 New Scientist
 10 January 2007
 
 Ball lightning could soon lose its status as a
 mystery, now that a team
 in Brazil has cooked up a simple recipe for making
 similar eerie orbs of
 light in the lab, even getting them to bounce around
 for several
 seconds. Watch a movie of the boucing balls here.
 http://www.espacociencia.pe.gov.br/multimidia.php
 
 Thousands of people have reported seeing ball
 lightning, a luminous
 sphere that sometimes appears during thunderstorms.
 It is typically the
 size of a grapefruit and lasts for a few seconds or
 minutes, sometimes
 hovering, even bouncing along the ground.
 
 One eyewitness saw a glowing ball burn through the
 screen door of a
 house in Oregon, navigate down to the basement and
 wreck an old mangle,
 while in another report, a similar orb bounced on a
 Russian teacher's
 head more than 20 times before vanishing.
 
 One theory suggests that ball lightning is a highly
 ionised blob of
 plasma held together by its own magnetic fields,
 while an exotic
 explanation claims the cause is mini black holes
 created in the big bang.
 
 A more down-to-earth theory, proposed by John
 Abrahamson and James
 Dinniss at the University of Canterbury in
 Christchurch, New Zealand, is
 that ball lightning forms when lightning strikes
 soil, turning any
 silica in the soil into pure silicon vapour. As the
 vapour cools, the
 silicon condenses into a floating aerosol bound into
 a ball by charges
 that gather on its surface, and it glows with the
 heat of silicon
 recombining with oxygen.
 
 To test this idea, a team led by Antonio Pavao and
 Gerson Paiva from the
 Federal University of Pernambuco in Brazil took
 wafers of silicon just
 350 micrometres thick, placed them between two
 electrodes and zapped
 them with currents of up to 140 amps. Then over a
 couple of seconds,
 they moved the electrodes slightly apart, creating
 an electrical arc
 that vaporised the silicon.
 
 The arc spat out glowing fragments of silicon but
 also, sometimes,
 luminous orbs the size of ping-pong balls that
 persisted for up to 8
 seconds. The luminous balls seem to be alive, says
 Pavao. He says
 their fuzzy surfaces emitted little jets that seemed
 to jerk them
 forward or sideways, as well as smoke trails that
 formed spiral shapes,
 suggesting the balls were spinning. From their
 blue-white or
 orange-white colour, Pavao's team estimates that
 they have a temperature
 of roughly 2000 kelvin. The balls were able to melt
 plastic, and one
 even burned a hole in Paiva's jeans.
 
 These are by far the longest-lived glowing balls
 ever made in the lab.
 Earlier experiments using microwaves created
 luminous balls
 but they disappeared milliseconds after the
 microwaves were switched off.
 
 The lifetimes of our fireballs are about a hundred
 or more times higher
 than that obtained by microwaves, says Pavao, whose
 findings will
 appear in Physical Review Letters. Abrahamson is
 thrilled. It made my
 year when I heard about it, he says. The balls,
 although still small,
 lasted long enough to come into the mainstream of
 observed natural ball
 lightning.
 
 Pavao's team is currently working out the chemical
 reactions involved in
 the balls' formation, and experimenting with other
 materials that might
 work too, including pure metals, alloys and sulphur
 compounds.
 
 From issue 2586 of New Scientist magazine, 10
 January 2007, page 12
 
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