Re: [meteorite-list] LUCERNE DRY LAKE crosshair target

2015-03-03 Thread Greg Crinklaw via Meteorite-list

On 3/3/2015 9:48 PM, Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list wrote:

Ok. someone on here must know the history of the Huge Target crosshairs
looking feature on the west side of Lucerne Dry Lake
Cambria road runs West off of 247 and almost runs into it.

What is it?  Art? Paleo art? Modern geo manipulation art or what?

Any body who knows please share.


According to this guy it was for bombing practice during WWII:

http://www.adventureduo.com/2009/05/lucerne-valley-exploration.html

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[meteorite-list] LUCERNE DRY LAKE crosshair target

2015-03-03 Thread Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list
Ok. someone on here must know the history of the Huge Target crosshairs 
looking feature on the west side of Lucerne Dry Lake

Cambria road runs West off of 247 and almost runs into it.

What is it?  Art? Paleo art? Modern geo manipulation art or what?

Any body who knows please share.

-Paul G 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Lucerne Dry Lake

2010-04-02 Thread R N Hartman

http://www.meteorite1.com/lweb.htm

No.  It is open to collecting (persumably minerals) but all vehicles are now 
legally prohibited from driving on the dry lake.  Don't know whether you 
would be chased off or whether it is being patrolled, but if you attempt an 
overnight camp be aware of flash floods (even in July and August) or you 
could be swimming when you awake in the morning.  Parts of the dry lake 
become very wet, even become rather sizeable lakes.  This is a catch basin 
for the adjacent desert area.  See my link above.


Ron Hartman

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Okay...I'm trying to find out some info  about Lucerne Dry Lake in 
Southern

California near Barstow. Can anyone tell me  if you are allowed to or able
to drive a camping trailer onto the dry lake for  camping purposes? Also 
do

people pitch tents there without getting chased off.  I'm not all that
familiar with that area and trying to get a feel for things  before making 
any

decisions. Thanks.
George Zay

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[meteorite-list] Lucerne Dry Lake

2010-04-01 Thread GeoZay

Okay...I'm trying to find out some info  about Lucerne Dry Lake in Southern 
California near Barstow. Can anyone tell me  if you are allowed to or able 
to drive a camping trailer onto the dry lake for  camping purposes? Also do 
people pitch tents there without getting chased off.  I'm not all that 
familiar with that area and trying to get a feel for things  before making any 
decisions. Thanks.
George Zay  

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[meteorite-list] Lucerne Dry Lake mystery item revealed

2002-08-12 Thread Matson, Robert

Hi All,

Back about two weeks ago I posed a question to the list asking how
many of you had paid a visit to Lucerne Dry Lake in southern California
prior to April 2002.  A number of you replied privately, some who had
been there, some not.  There were a number of guesses as to the mystery
item that I found there, but none close.  And of those that had been,
none were aware of anything that they had left behind.

Since it appears that the individual who lost this item may not be
a member of Meteorite-Central, the time has come to spill the beans:
I found, of all things, a meteorite!  Of course, meteorites are exactly
what I was searching for, so that shouldn't come as a surprise.  But
this was a TRANSPORTED meteorite, more specifically a partslice.

Now I can understand someone taking a meteorite along with them while
hunting to use as a search image, but a small cut slice???  At the
time I found it, I didn't even consider the possibility.  I thought
perhaps some kind of odd mechanical weathering had sanded a meteorite
down to a sliver.  (Given the alternative explanation that someone
had dropped a partslice on the lakebed, and that I had somehow
managed to find it seemed to be the more absurd possibility.)

Given that no saw marks could be seen, I had to treat it as a
find.  It received a field ID and a sample was broken off (not cut!)
for UCLA to analyze.  Mind you -- we looked at this meteorite under
a microscope and aside from the obvious resemblance to a (weathered)
slice of meteorite, could find no evidence of it having been cut.

Fast-forward several months to the opening night welcome reception
for the Meteoritical Society meeting at UCLA.  I brought a number
of meteorite finds along with me to show to colleagues, among them
this oddity from Lucerne.  The sun was setting, but in the fading
light Bob Verish and Nick Gessler got to take a look at this find
under a 12x loupe that I had brought along.  Lo and behold, with
the grazing light, there was just enough surface contrast that Bob
was able to detect the faint remnants of saw marks on the
less-weathered side.  I looked, and sure enough they were there:
completely invisible except when viewed at grazing incidence.
I had myself a transport -- and probably an unintentional one at
that!

If any of you are curious to see the in situ find photos, I've
posted them at:

http://members.cox.net/mojave_meteorites/lvtran_a.jpg
http://members.cox.net/mojave_meteorites/lvtran_b.jpg
http://members.cox.net/mojave_meteorites/lvtran_c.jpg
http://members.cox.net/mojave_meteorites/lvtran_d.jpg

The first image shows the slice before it was touched, the
second after it was flipped over.  The third is a close-up,
and the fourth shows the general area on the playa where
it was found.  Obviously it would be nice to come full-circle
on this story and learn the identity of the one who lost this
slice, when they lost it, and most importantly which meteorite
it came from!  It would make a humorous story for Meteorite
Magazine...

Best,
Rob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Lucerne Dry Lake mystery item revealed

2002-08-12 Thread Rosemary Hackney

woohoo Why does that road into the mountains remind me of Groom Lake?

Rosie
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Lucerne Dry Lake mystery item revealed


 Hi All,
 
 Back about two weeks ago I posed a question to the list asking how
 many of you had paid a visit to Lucerne Dry Lake in southern California
 prior to April 2002.  A number of you replied privately, some who had
 been there, some not.  There were a number of guesses as to the mystery
 item that I found there, but none close.  And of those that had been,
 none were aware of anything that they had left behind.
 
 Since it appears that the individual who lost this item may not be
 a member of Meteorite-Central, the time has come to spill the beans:
 I found, of all things, a meteorite!  Of course, meteorites are exactly
 what I was searching for, so that shouldn't come as a surprise.  But
 this was a TRANSPORTED meteorite, more specifically a partslice.
 
 Now I can understand someone taking a meteorite along with them while
 hunting to use as a search image, but a small cut slice???  At the
 time I found it, I didn't even consider the possibility.  I thought
 perhaps some kind of odd mechanical weathering had sanded a meteorite
 down to a sliver.  (Given the alternative explanation that someone
 had dropped a partslice on the lakebed, and that I had somehow
 managed to find it seemed to be the more absurd possibility.)
 
 Given that no saw marks could be seen, I had to treat it as a
 find.  It received a field ID and a sample was broken off (not cut!)
 for UCLA to analyze.  Mind you -- we looked at this meteorite under
 a microscope and aside from the obvious resemblance to a (weathered)
 slice of meteorite, could find no evidence of it having been cut.
 
 Fast-forward several months to the opening night welcome reception
 for the Meteoritical Society meeting at UCLA.  I brought a number
 of meteorite finds along with me to show to colleagues, among them
 this oddity from Lucerne.  The sun was setting, but in the fading
 light Bob Verish and Nick Gessler got to take a look at this find
 under a 12x loupe that I had brought along.  Lo and behold, with
 the grazing light, there was just enough surface contrast that Bob
 was able to detect the faint remnants of saw marks on the
 less-weathered side.  I looked, and sure enough they were there:
 completely invisible except when viewed at grazing incidence.
 I had myself a transport -- and probably an unintentional one at
 that!
 
 If any of you are curious to see the in situ find photos, I've
 posted them at:
 
 http://members.cox.net/mojave_meteorites/lvtran_a.jpg
 http://members.cox.net/mojave_meteorites/lvtran_b.jpg
 http://members.cox.net/mojave_meteorites/lvtran_c.jpg
 http://members.cox.net/mojave_meteorites/lvtran_d.jpg
 
 The first image shows the slice before it was touched, the
 second after it was flipped over.  The third is a close-up,
 and the fourth shows the general area on the playa where
 it was found.  Obviously it would be nice to come full-circle
 on this story and learn the identity of the one who lost this
 slice, when they lost it, and most importantly which meteorite
 it came from!  It would make a humorous story for Meteorite
 Magazine...
 
 Best,
 Rob
 
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