Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15
Howdy, all I¹ve examined this event and I don¹t agree that this feature is a debris cloud. It is visible in radar imagery about 15 minutes prior to the eyewitness accounts of sonic booms. It is also missing some of the diagnostic features of a meteorite fall, namely internal turbulence that fades within minutes of the event, high-altitude signatures, a sequential appearance due to size sorting of falling debris, and other features in the various radar data products. This feature moves laterally the whole time it is visible and appears prior to the event; looks like weather to me. There is a feature just NE of Shreveport that is interesting but not conclusively a meteorite fall. There are turbulence features seen in the Shreveport radar and reflectivity features seen at long range from the Fort Polk radar. I¹m not convinced that these features are related either, but we are talking them over. One feature of this event that troubles me is that there aren¹t any eyewitness reports on the AMS reporting page. Even though the area was overcast, an event of this magnitude should have been visible over a very large area. In the past, events like this have turned out to be man-made events coming from something on the ground. Cheers, Marc Fries -- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:30:54 -0700 From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net, Marc Fries marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov Subject: [meteorite-list] Debris Cloud Found from Shreveport, LA Boom Event 13OCT2014 Message-ID: 1413347454.26369.yahoomail...@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List, Debris Cloud Found on Radar from Shreveport, LA Boom Event 13OCT2014 according to the National Weather Service. http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/10/shreveport-louisiana-loud -boom-meteor.html Rob and Marc can you take a look and see what the NWS claims they found; thank you. Dirk Ross...Tokyo -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- End of Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15 *** __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15
Marc, Thanks! Mystery plot continues BTW, the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/ Dirk...Tokyo - Original Message - From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15 Howdy, all I¹ve examined this event and I don¹t agree that this feature is a debris cloud. It is visible in radar imagery about 15 minutes prior to the eyewitness accounts of sonic booms. It is also missing some of the diagnostic features of a meteorite fall, namely internal turbulence that fades within minutes of the event, high-altitude signatures, a sequential appearance due to size sorting of falling debris, and other features in the various radar data products. This feature moves laterally the whole time it is visible and appears prior to the event; looks like weather to me. There is a feature just NE of Shreveport that is interesting but not conclusively a meteorite fall. There are turbulence features seen in the Shreveport radar and reflectivity features seen at long range from the Fort Polk radar. I¹m not convinced that these features are related either, but we are talking them over. One feature of this event that troubles me is that there aren¹t any eyewitness reports on the AMS reporting page. Even though the area was overcast, an event of this magnitude should have been visible over a very large area. In the past, events like this have turned out to be man-made events coming from something on the ground. Cheers, Marc Fries -- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:30:54 -0700 From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net, Marc Fries marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov Subject: [meteorite-list] Debris Cloud Found from Shreveport,LA Boom Event 13OCT2014 Message-ID: 1413347454.26369.yahoomail...@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List, Debris Cloud Found on Radar from Shreveport, LA Boom Event 13OCT2014 according to the National Weather Service. http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/10/shreveport-louisiana-loud -boom-meteor.html Rob and Marc can you take a look and see what the NWS claims they found; thank you. Dirk Ross...Tokyo -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- End of Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15 *** __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15
Marc and List, We have earwitness reports for what they are worth. Two persons reported that the sound seemed to come from the w / MW as it made the windows rattle on that side. The sky was overcast and at 1630 or so not many are going to be looking up. Thanks. Dirk...Tokyo - Original Message - From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15 True! Sorry; what I meant to say was that there are no eyewitness reports -=of an actual meteor=-. Unless I¹ve missed something, this is true for all eyewitness reporting sites. Cheers, Marc Fries On 10/15/14, 10:10 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: Marc, Thanks! Mystery plot continues BTW, the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/ Dirk...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15
True! Sorry; what I meant to say was that there are no eyewitness reports -=of an actual meteor=-. Unless I¹ve missed something, this is true for all eyewitness reporting sites. Cheers, Marc Fries On 10/15/14, 10:10 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: Marc, Thanks! Mystery plot continues BTW, the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/ Dirk...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15
You do know that there are Air Force bases in Louisiana right? It could easily be sonic boom produced by jet. Sent from my iPad On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:28 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Marc and List, We have earwitness reports for what they are worth. Two persons reported that the sound seemed to come from the w / MW as it made the windows rattle on that side. The sky was overcast and at 1630 or so not many are going to be looking up. Thanks. Dirk...Tokyo - Original Message - From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15 True! Sorry; what I meant to say was that there are no eyewitness reports -=of an actual meteor=-. Unless I¹ve missed something, this is true for all eyewitness reporting sites. Cheers, Marc Fries On 10/15/14, 10:10 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: Marc, Thanks! Mystery plot continues BTW, the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/ Dirk...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15
Mike, Yes of course I know. All of the reports and the witnesses I spoke with said that this was NOT a sonic boom from an aircraft. One witness x-military AF said not aircraft. One report from TX is 35 miles from Shreveport... a bit far for an aircraft sonic boom to travel. The military claims that is was not them. Pipelines and factories all checked clean. Munition storage AFAWK all negative. The only fact we know is that there was a loud pop/ing followed by a rumbling loud boom that lasted up to 15 seconds. Windows rattled on w /NW sides of houses. There was no weather with conditions to produce thunder. So for now we have the NWS saying debris trail but odd... 1000 feet to 1500 feet rising; very low and they seem to be indicating, although not saying from a ground event??. And we have Marc saying that the NWS debris is not debris and was there in the same location prior to the event. Any NOTAMs for the area? at that time? I dont know and didnt check AND very unlikely. So this leaves us with an UBO - Unknown Booming Object or UBE - Event. Me thinks that someone knows or should know but are not saying for good reasons. Dirk...Tokyo - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Cc: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15 You do know that there are Air Force bases in Louisiana right? It could easily be sonic boom produced by jet. Sent from my iPad On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:28 AM, drtanuki via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Marc and List, We have earwitness reports for what they are worth. Two persons reported that the sound seemed to come from the w / MW as it made the windows rattle on that side. The sky was overcast and at 1630 or so not many are going to be looking up. Thanks. Dirk...Tokyo - Original Message - From: FRIES, MARC D. (JSC-KT111) marc.d.fr...@nasa.gov To: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 138, Issue 15 True! Sorry; what I meant to say was that there are no eyewitness reports -=of an actual meteor=-. Unless I¹ve missed something, this is true for all eyewitness reporting sites. Cheers, Marc Fries On 10/15/14, 10:10 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: Marc, Thanks! Mystery plot continues BTW, the AMS is not the only data source regardless of what is advertised --- http://thelatestworldwidemeteorreports.blogspot.com/ Dirk...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
