Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
Hi Bob, I agree that some people are burned by the cold. But after reading many first hand reports I think that the “cold enough to burn” meteorites are those that are found ON the ground. The “too hot to touch” meteorites are the ones that have punched through something. I can’t prove it, but my theory fits the scores of reports that I have read. Thanks, Peter From: Robert Verish [mailto:bolidecha...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:27 PM To: Tommy; Tommy via Meteorite-list; Peter Scherff Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof People that have unknowingly picked up a piece of dry ice with their bare hands have sworn that it is burnt their fingers. Bob Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: Hi Peter! I get the friction part but THAT much friction? Tom On 06/28/2016 04:09 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: > Hi Tom, > > I believe that part i.e. "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly > as it was very hot,". Have you ever held a nail that you just pulled out of > a board? The nail is very warm. The friction of punching a hole through a > home, car or the ground can heat up a meteorite. Now if they start talking > about the fires it started I am with you. > > Thanks, > > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > ] On > Behalf Of Tommy via Meteorite-list > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:03 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof > > "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," > 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. " > > > Her mind must have been playing tricks on her. > > Regards! > > Tom > > > On 06/28/2016 03:02 PM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list wrote: > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > <https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral%20> and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral <https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral%20> and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
People that have unknowingly picked up a piece of dry ice with their bare hands have sworn that it is burnt their fingers. Bob Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Tommy via Meteorite-list<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote: Hi Peter! I get the friction part but THAT much friction? Tom On 06/28/2016 04:09 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: > Hi Tom, > > I believe that part i.e. "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly > as it was very hot,". Have you ever held a nail that you just pulled out of > a board? The nail is very warm. The friction of punching a hole through a > home, car or the ground can heat up a meteorite. Now if they start talking > about the fires it started I am with you. > > Thanks, > > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On > Behalf Of Tommy via Meteorite-list > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:03 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof > > "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," > 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. " > > > Her mind must have been playing tricks on her. > > Regards! > > Tom > > > On 06/28/2016 03:02 PM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list wrote: > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
There's really no way for such a stone to be heated significantly by the energy dissipated when crashing through a roof. In all likelihood, the reason that observed falls are reported as hot is because people expect hot, and confuse hot with cold. I don't think the incidence of reports of heat is significantly higher for hammers than for other falls. FWIW, when you pull a nail the mass of the nail is very small, it has a high surface area compared with its volume, it's thermally conductive, the extraction is relatively slow, and the friction is very high. Contrast that with a meteorite: much smaller surface area compared with volume, low thermal conductivity, very high speed of impact, and very little friction (with most of the surface never even contacting the roof). Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 6/28/2016 2:29 PM, Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list wrote: Hi Tom, Yes, I think so. There are too many reports of meteorites being hot to the touch. Those reports are almost always about meteorites that have punched through something (building, vehicle or ground). I trust this mass of anecdotal evidence. But we won't know for sure until some starts shooting rocks through buildings for their doctoral thesis. Thanks, Peter __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
Hi Tom, You could very well be right. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Tommy [mailto:tomm...@hvc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:49 PM To: Peter Scherff Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof Peter, I'm going to go with the theory she was mistaken. I'm sure the crash kind of messed her mind up a tad at the time of impact. Regards! Tom On 06/28/2016 04:29 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: > Hi Tom, > > Yes, I think so. There are too many reports of meteorites being hot to > the touch. Those reports are almost always about meteorites that have > punched through something (building, vehicle or ground). I trust this > mass of anecdotal evidence. But we won't know for sure until some > starts shooting rocks through buildings for their doctoral thesis. > > Thanks, > > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Tommy [mailto:tomm...@hvc.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:22 PM > To: Peter Scherff > Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House > Roof > >Hi Peter! > I get the friction part but THAT much friction? > > Tom > > > On 06/28/2016 04:09 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: >> Hi Tom, >> >> I believe that part i.e. "I picked up the largest chunk and let go >> quickly as it was very hot,". Have you ever held a nail that you just >> pulled out of a board? The nail is very warm. The friction of >> punching a hole through a home, car or the ground can heat up a >> meteorite. Now if they start talking about the fires it started I am with you. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Peter >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Meteorite-list >> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of >> Tommy via Meteorite-list >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:03 PM >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand >> House Roof >> >> "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," >> 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. " >> >> >> Her mind must have been playing tricks on her. >> >> Regards! >> >> Tom >> >> >> On 06/28/2016 03:02 PM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list wrote: >> >> __ >> >> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and >> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
Peter, I'm going to go with the theory she was mistaken. I'm sure the crash kind of messed her mind up a tad at the time of impact. Regards! Tom On 06/28/2016 04:29 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: Hi Tom, Yes, I think so. There are too many reports of meteorites being hot to the touch. Those reports are almost always about meteorites that have punched through something (building, vehicle or ground). I trust this mass of anecdotal evidence. But we won't know for sure until some starts shooting rocks through buildings for their doctoral thesis. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Tommy [mailto:tomm...@hvc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:22 PM To: Peter Scherff Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof Hi Peter! I get the friction part but THAT much friction? Tom On 06/28/2016 04:09 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: Hi Tom, I believe that part i.e. "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot,". Have you ever held a nail that you just pulled out of a board? The nail is very warm. The friction of punching a hole through a home, car or the ground can heat up a meteorite. Now if they start talking about the fires it started I am with you. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Tommy via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:03 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. " Her mind must have been playing tricks on her. Regards! Tom On 06/28/2016 03:02 PM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list wrote: __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
Hi Tom, Yes, I think so. There are too many reports of meteorites being hot to the touch. Those reports are almost always about meteorites that have punched through something (building, vehicle or ground). I trust this mass of anecdotal evidence. But we won't know for sure until some starts shooting rocks through buildings for their doctoral thesis. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Tommy [mailto:tomm...@hvc.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:22 PM To: Peter Scherff Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof Hi Peter! I get the friction part but THAT much friction? Tom On 06/28/2016 04:09 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: > Hi Tom, > > I believe that part i.e. "I picked up the largest chunk and let go > quickly as it was very hot,". Have you ever held a nail that you just > pulled out of a board? The nail is very warm. The friction of punching > a hole through a home, car or the ground can heat up a meteorite. Now > if they start talking about the fires it started I am with you. > > Thanks, > > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Meteorite-list > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of > Tommy via Meteorite-list > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:03 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House > Roof > > "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," > 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. " > > > Her mind must have been playing tricks on her. > > Regards! > > Tom > > > On 06/28/2016 03:02 PM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list wrote: > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
Hi Peter! I get the friction part but THAT much friction? Tom On 06/28/2016 04:09 PM, Peter Scherff wrote: Hi Tom, I believe that part i.e. "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot,". Have you ever held a nail that you just pulled out of a board? The nail is very warm. The friction of punching a hole through a home, car or the ground can heat up a meteorite. Now if they start talking about the fires it started I am with you. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Tommy via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:03 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. " Her mind must have been playing tricks on her. Regards! Tom On 06/28/2016 03:02 PM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list wrote: __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
Hi Tom, I believe that part i.e. "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot,". Have you ever held a nail that you just pulled out of a board? The nail is very warm. The friction of punching a hole through a home, car or the ground can heat up a meteorite. Now if they start talking about the fires it started I am with you. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Tommy via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:03 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof "I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. " Her mind must have been playing tricks on her. Regards! Tom On 06/28/2016 03:02 PM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list wrote: __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
"I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. " Her mind must have been playing tricks on her. Regards! Tom On 06/28/2016 03:02 PM, Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list wrote: __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Thailand House Roof
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1022213/meteorite-crashes-through-phitsanulok-house-roof 'Meteorite' crashes through Phitsanulok house roof Bangkok Post 28 Jun 2016 PHITSANULOK - A mysterious rock, believed to be a meteorite, crashed through the roof of a house in Phitsanulok's Muang district on Tuesday. The suspected meteorite fell through the roof of a home in Plai Chumphon sub-district at 7.26am, hit a wall and then bounced to the floor, breaking into five pieces. "I was having breakfast when there was a loud bang, like a gunshot sound. I looked around and found a rock about the size of an egg and some fragments nearby. I picked up the largest chunk and let go quickly as it was very hot," 65-year-old home-owner Bualom Chalomprai said. Mrs Bualom believes the rock is from outer space and will bring her good luck. Mrs Bualom's husband, Kittisak, 75, said he heard a sound of explosion in the sky at about 7am before the 300g rock fell through his roof. Media reports said residents in adjacent districts of Nakhon Thai and Chat Trakan also heard the "explosion". Scientists at Naresuan University's department of physics later carried out an initial examination on a small fragment taken from the Chalomprai family home and concluded the object could very likely be a meteorite given its features and the circumstance under which it had been found. Department head Sarawut Tuantam said the rock's crust was charcoal black, indicating it had been burned entering Earth's atmosphere at very high speeds. The test also found the chunk contained large amount of iron and was attracted by a magnet. Prof Sarawut added that the Chalomprais could keep the suspected space rock as it had safe radioactivity levels. __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
