Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
There is another TV report with new footage about the fall from today's 1 pm news of the French channel TF1: http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-13h/une-meteorite-sur-la-maison-de-madame-comette-6756763.html Enjoy, even if you don't understand French! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 10.10.2011 01:10:08 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? And there is another online article on the fall: http://www.mediapart.fr/article/offert/50aeca242adae6479c568a92f3ad2bc0 http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=frtl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediapart.fr%2Farticle%2Foffert%2F50aeca242adae6479c568a92f3ad2bc0 Bonne nuit Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:28:43 An: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? I just found out that there are interesting similarities between the last French fall in February 2002 (Alby sur Chéran, Haute Savoie, France) and this one: This is said in the Bulletin about Alby sur Chéran: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Francesfor=placesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=458 stone with black shiny fusion crust was found on March 22 in the roof of a building, in a hole in the insulating material. Water was first observed leaking from the ceiling inside the building at 8:30 am on March 18, 2002. The stone had broken into 2 fragments (238.9 g and 13 g) upon impact. - found in the insulation material of a roof because water was leaking through - meteorite has broken into two fragments The Draveil meteorite was also found in the insulation material of the roof, broke into one bigger fragment of 87 g and a few smaller ones of 18 g, making it 105 g altogether, and was discovered because of leaking water in the house. By the way, Soltmany was also a 'roof hitter'... Let's go out and check our roofs... ;-) Martin PS: Yes, Mike G., France IS very friendly! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:19:28 An: Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Hi Fresh Fall Fans! (say that ten times fast) This unofficial fall would be called Draveil for discussion purposes. From what I could gather on the translated stories, it fell on September 9, 2011 and struck a home while the family was away. Is there a known fireball associated with this one, or any video/radar? I updated the Recent Falls page here - http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls I think France should be a little friendlier to hunt than Kenya. Stay safe folks and good luck! Bring home the stones! :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 10/9/11, Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com wrote: ..finder's last name is Comette. How cool is that? ;) I hope they don't get teased as much as I do with my last name(though I do think my last name is cool too ;) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Some information about the second stone (205,9 g) which fell in Draveil from today's Communiqué de presse of the Museum d’Histoire Naturelle et de l’Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (UPMC): http://public.adequatesystems.com/pub/attachment/137704/02371925839478791318253422644-mnhn.fr/CP_MeteoriteDraveil_10102011.pdf?id=518655 Its name ist going to be DRAVEIL and it has ended up in the Museum d’Histoire Naturelle. It fell in the night of July 12/13 2011 Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 10.10.2011 01:10:08 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? And there is another online article on the fall: http://www.mediapart.fr/article/offert/50aeca242adae6479c568a92f3ad2bc0 http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=frtl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediapart.fr%2Farticle%2Foffert%2F50aeca242adae6479c568a92f3ad2bc0 Bonne nuit Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:28:43 An: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? I just found out that there are interesting similarities between the last French fall in February 2002 (Alby sur Chéran, Haute Savoie, France) and this one: This is said in the Bulletin about Alby sur Chéran: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Francesfor=placesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=458 stone with black shiny fusion crust was found on March 22 in the roof of a building, in a hole in the insulating material. Water was first observed leaking from the ceiling inside the building at 8:30 am on March 18, 2002. The stone had broken into 2 fragments (238.9 g and 13 g) upon impact. - found in the insulation material of a roof because water was leaking through - meteorite has broken into two fragments The Draveil meteorite was also found in the insulation material of the roof, broke into one bigger fragment of 87 g and a few smaller ones of 18 g, making it 105 g altogether, and was discovered because of leaking water in the house. By the way, Soltmany was also a 'roof hitter'... Let's go out and check our roofs... ;-) Martin PS: Yes, Mike G., France IS very friendly! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:19:28 An: Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Hi Fresh Fall Fans! (say that ten times fast) This unofficial fall would be called Draveil for discussion purposes. From what I could gather on the translated stories, it fell on September 9, 2011 and struck a home while the family was away. Is there a known fireball associated with this one, or any video/radar? I updated the Recent Falls page here - http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls I think France should be a little friendlier to hunt than Kenya. Stay safe folks and good luck! Bring home the stones! :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 10/9/11, Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com wrote: ..finder's last name is Comette. How cool is that? ;) I hope they don't get teased as much as I do with my last name(though I do think my last name is cool too ;) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Alain Carion is in the background and the article mentioned he authenticated it...real deal. Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: karmaka karm...@email.de Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 8:01 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2085/4543 - Release Date: 10/07/11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Hi Mike, Hopefully this new fall will not be as dangerous to chase as Thika was! :) remember the stories about the Britanny meteor and possible meteorites (which have still not been found, btw)? Private meteorite hunters are unfortunately not welcome in France these days... :-( Here is another article (with a stock photo of an iron meteorite (not the real one, I guess)) http://www.france24.com/fr/20111009-mme-comette-trouve-une-meteorite-le-toit-son-pavillon http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.france24.com%2Ffr%2F20111009-mme-comette-trouve-une-meteorite-le-toit-son-pavillon Around 100 grams in fragments of a chondrite have been found, the biggest weighs 88 grams. Best wishes Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:24:35 An: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Hi Rob and List, This is good news. The world is short on falls this year, as compared to the statistical average over the previous 10 years. Hopefully this new fall will not be as dangerous to chase as Thika was! :) Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 10/9/11, Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net wrote: Alain Carion is in the background and the article mentioned he authenticated it...real deal. Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: karmaka karm...@email.de Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 8:01 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2085/4543 - Release Date: 10/07/11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
I just landed in Paris. Struck out at the draconids in greece due to clouds and rain. Maybe I can redeem myself here. Wife is not gonna be happy about this... On Oct 9, 2011, at 5:01 PM, karmaka karm...@email.de wrote: Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Another close-up photo of the beauty in the hand of Alain Carion: http://www.mediapart.fr/files/media_119420/meteorite-chondrite-1.jpg Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:53:12 An: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
My guess is that it is an H Chondrite judging from the nearly immediate oxidation. It displays rust almost as quickly as Peekskill. Adam - Original Message - From: karmaka karm...@email.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Another close-up photo of the beauty in the hand of Alain Carion: http://www.mediapart.fr/files/media_119420/meteorite-chondrite-1.jpg Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:53:12 An: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Great news, safe place. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2011, at 8:01 AM, karmaka karm...@email.de wrote: Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php translation: http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=desl=frtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leparisien.fr%2Fdraveil-91210%2Fdraveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-la-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Best wishes to all Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Here you can see a TV report (France 3, Paris edition of this evening) in which you can see the fragments, A. Carion and the proud owner of the meteorite: http://info.francetelevisions.fr/video-info/index-fr.php?id-categorie=JOURNAUX_LES_EDITIONS_REGIONALES_PARIS_ILE_DE_FRANCE_1920 Choose this edition: J/T 19/20 Paris Ile-de-France du 09/10/2011 It starts after 55 seconds running time. Enjoy! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 21:49:17 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Another close-up photo of the beauty in the hand of Alain Carion: http://www.mediapart.fr/files/media_119420/meteorite-chondrite-1.jpg Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:53:12 An: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
Yes, Adam, it is an H chondrite. Alain Carion confirmed this in the TV report Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 22:08:25 An: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? My guess is that it is an H Chondrite judging from the nearly immediate oxidation. It displays rust almost as quickly as Peekskill. Adam - Original Message - From: karmaka karm...@email.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Another close-up photo of the beauty in the hand of Alain Carion: http://www.mediapart.fr/files/media_119420/meteorite-chondrite-1.jpg Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:53:12 An: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Thank you, David! It's from the first published online article about the fall from yesterday afternoon (CET). http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez-mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php I had written about this fall first in the German meteorite forum yesterday evening (CET) , but completely forgot to click on the photoI'm getting old :-) http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=6966.0 Cheers Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Entwistle da...@radiometeor.plus.com Gesendet: 09.10.2011 17:25:14 An: karmaka karm...@email.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? In message 52634554.1584231.1318172507797.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb024, karmaka karm...@email.de writes Dear list members, there might have been a meteorite fall near Paris. Alain Carion must know if it's real or not. http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/draveil-une-meteorite-tombe-sur-l a-maison-de-mme-comette-09-10-2011-1644940.php Hi Martin, There's a slightly clearer picture here: http://www.leparisien.fr/draveil-91210/essonne-une-meteorite-tombe-chez- mme-comette-08-10-2011-1644714.php -- David Entwistle __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
..finder's last name is Comette. How cool is that? ;) I hope they don't get teased as much as I do with my last name(though I do think my last name is cool too ;) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
I just found out that there are interesting similarities between the last French fall in February 2002 (Alby sur Chéran, Haute Savoie, France) and this one: This is said in the Bulletin about Alby sur Chéran: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Francesfor=placesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=458 stone with black shiny fusion crust was found on March 22 in the roof of a building, in a hole in the insulating material. Water was first observed leaking from the ceiling inside the building at 8:30 am on March 18, 2002. The stone had broken into 2 fragments (238.9 g and 13 g) upon impact. - found in the insulation material of a roof because water was leaking through - meteorite has broken into two fragments The Draveil meteorite was also found in the insulation material of the roof, broke into one bigger fragment of 87 g and a few smaller ones of 18 g, making it 105 g altogether, and was discovered because of leaking water in the house. By the way, Soltmany was also a 'roof hitter'... Let's go out and check our roofs... ;-) Martin PS: Yes, Mike G., France IS very friendly! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:19:28 An: Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Hi Fresh Fall Fans! (say that ten times fast) This unofficial fall would be called Draveil for discussion purposes. From what I could gather on the translated stories, it fell on September 9, 2011 and struck a home while the family was away. Is there a known fireball associated with this one, or any video/radar? I updated the Recent Falls page here - http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls I think France should be a little friendlier to hunt than Kenya. Stay safe folks and good luck! Bring home the stones! :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 10/9/11, Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com wrote: ..finder's last name is Comette. How cool is that? ;) I hope they don't get teased as much as I do with my last name(though I do think my last name is cool too ;) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France?
And there is another online article on the fall: http://www.mediapart.fr/article/offert/50aeca242adae6479c568a92f3ad2bc0 http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=frtl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediapart.fr%2Farticle%2Foffert%2F50aeca242adae6479c568a92f3ad2bc0 Bonne nuit Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: karmaka karm...@email.de Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:28:43 An: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? I just found out that there are interesting similarities between the last French fall in February 2002 (Alby sur Chéran, Haute Savoie, France) and this one: This is said in the Bulletin about Alby sur Chéran: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=Francesfor=placesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=458 stone with black shiny fusion crust was found on March 22 in the roof of a building, in a hole in the insulating material. Water was first observed leaking from the ceiling inside the building at 8:30 am on March 18, 2002. The stone had broken into 2 fragments (238.9 g and 13 g) upon impact. - found in the insulation material of a roof because water was leaking through - meteorite has broken into two fragments The Draveil meteorite was also found in the insulation material of the roof, broke into one bigger fragment of 87 g and a few smaller ones of 18 g, making it 105 g altogether, and was discovered because of leaking water in the house. By the way, Soltmany was also a 'roof hitter'... Let's go out and check our roofs... ;-) Martin PS: Yes, Mike G., France IS very friendly! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Gesendet: 10.10.2011 00:19:28 An: Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Draveil (Essonne), France? Hi Fresh Fall Fans! (say that ten times fast) This unofficial fall would be called Draveil for discussion purposes. From what I could gather on the translated stories, it fell on September 9, 2011 and struck a home while the family was away. Is there a known fireball associated with this one, or any video/radar? I updated the Recent Falls page here - http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls I think France should be a little friendlier to hunt than Kenya. Stay safe folks and good luck! Bring home the stones! :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 10/9/11, Benjamin P. Sun bpsun2...@gmail.com wrote: ..finder's last name is Comette. How cool is that? ;) I hope they don't get teased as much as I do with my last name(though I do think my last name is cool too ;) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
