[meteorite-list] Pallasite story.

2007-03-17 Thread Michael Farmer
Ruben, 
I have found both Imilac and Glorieta Mountain pieces,
although the Glorieta Mountain pieces I have found
weigh a combined less than 20 grams! I have spent
thousands of dollars travelling to Glorieta, to find a
value of only a couple hundred dollars. Hunting
meteorites takes incredible patience, and lots of luck
mixed in. When I first started hunting, a friend of
mine at Gold Basin was doing much better than I was,
and I ask him the secret, just to share soemthing with
me so that I could improve my haul of meteorites. He
told me that the trick to finding meteorites is to
get the coil of your detector over the meteorite!
When I found this new pallasite, it was one of the
best finds of my life, I honestly think I was more
excited than when I found the moon rock. There was no
question of what this meteorite was. We have been
preparing for months a return to the location to
systematically search for more pieces. My hunting
partner and I returned to the location, carrying
crates of material to build metal-detectors which
could be pulled behind the vehicles. Customs was quite
interested in the machines, but when told what they
were for, they thought it was cool. 
We hunted for two days, gridding teh area where I
found the first piece, back and forth 16 hours per day
(night hunting during a full moon in the desert is not
a problem). We found nothing in thoe two days! Imagine
the boredom and anger at what we thouht was going to
be an easy hunt. After two full days of gridding the
site of the first piece, we decided to go out more
randomly in all directions, to try and hit a second
piece. Late in the afternoon, my radio crackled, but I
was too far away from Robert to hear him. We have
several different radios, so finally my GPS radio came
on and I heard Robert say that he had found it. I
called back and he told me that he had found more
pallasite! It took us some time to fugure out where
each other was, but I drove up on a small hill and
Robert talked me in. 

--- Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Mike and All,
 Congratulations!!! You are the man Mike, an
 impressive
 find indeed!! I'm not sure if most of the list can
 fully appreciate how hard it is to find a meteorite,
 even when you're right in the middle of the strewn
 field. 
 
 Finding a pallasite is an awesome feeling. I know
 that
 you are one of only a handfull of people that have
 ever found a Glorieta Mountain Pallasite. How many
 different pallasites have you personally found? I'm
 assuming Imilac, Glorieta Mountain and this new one,
 any others?
 
 Ruben
 
 Ruben Garcia
 Phoenix, Arizona
 http://www.mr-meteorite.com
 
 
  


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Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite Story

2007-03-17 Thread Michael Murray

Hi Michael, and List
Congratulations Mike!  I love hearing about meteorite hunting success  
stories.  This find and Larry Atkin's Holbrook find are both  
inspiring to a fellow hunter.  Thanks for sharing the information and  
photos.


Michael Murray
micro hunter of southwest Colorado
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[meteorite-list] Pallasite story #2

2007-03-17 Thread Michael Farmer
Sorry for the broken email, I hit the wrong button and
it sent before spell check and being finished. Here is
the rest of the story.


When I arrived at Robert's location, I could see him
walking around and small black pallasite pieces laying
all over the ground. There were 9 pieces on the
surface, and several more under the sand. We could see
the sandblasted metal and large olivine crystals
glinting in the bright desert sun. We had a little
celebration and set up camp at that spot. About four
hour later, Robert excitedly yelled into the radio
that he found more pieces a quarter mile away. I went
over there and sure enough, 5 more pieces, laying in a
line about 0.5 meter long embedded in the sandy
surface. We hunted for hours more but found nothing
else. That night we celebrated with an ice-cold bottle
of fine champagne that we had bought in Duty Free. We
forgot the glasses though, and I drank mine from a
coffee mug, Robert drank his from an empty noodle cup!
Even with the uncivilized utensils, that champagne was
the taste of victory and success. We talked all night
and found it difficult to sleep, wondering just how
many kilos of pallasite we would find the next day.
 We were having difficulty deciding how we would
divide up the small amount of material that Robert had
found that day (less than 1 kilogram), who would get
which piece etc, since I had found nothing. The next
day however, would turn out to be mine. We had to go
for fuel but returned late in the afternoon, where we
started searching even before returning to camp. I
decided to go check on the camp when to my amazement,
about 30 meters from my tent, I drove up on a patch of
pallasite pieces, 8 specimens on the surface totalling
about 500 grams. We had been sleeping so close to
those meteorites. Anyone who knows about hunting in
the desert knows that lighting is everything. You can
miss a large meteorite very close to you if you are
looking into the sun, but put the sun and your back
and it is hard to miss even a small meteorite in the
sand. Later that evening, I found two more pieces
visually, then after sunset, while gridding, I heard a
scream on the detector being pulled behind the truck.
I got out, saw nothing on the ground, and pulled out
my Goldmaster for a spot check. As I swung the coil, I
got a large signal so I called Robert over. We dug up
about a 100 gram pallasite from about 3 cm under the
soil. I swung again and heard nothing so I packed up
the detector and continued driving. Robert immediately
called me back and said that I had not found all of
the meteorite, in my excitment to hunt I broke the
cardinal rule, I did not fully check the hole. Robert
got multiple meteorite signals only inches from where
I had found the first one. We dug up more than 10
pieces from that little area. Later that night, around
10 pm, I got a large signal on the detector, only
about 1 meter from a place where Robert had been
pivoting the car on for hours during gridding.
Unfortunately for him, he kept turning on the same
point, rather than expanding out the turn. I cut
accross that spot and found one of the most beautuful
Pallasite pieces I have ever seen, weighong 216 grams,
shaped like a Klingon bird of Prey spaceship, with an
olivine measuring over 40 mm long! He had missed it
time and time again by less than three feet.
   That specimen turned out to be the last one we
would find. We gridded for almost two weeks after
that, periodicly hunting meteorites elsewhere only to
return to the pallasite strewnfield. We never found
another piece, even though there is hardly a speck of
sand that hadnt been driven over time and time again.
The meteorites seems to be a very small fall. 

As you can find on the Meteoritical Bulletin, there
are just over 50 pallasites known (over 70 listed but
that includes many paired Antarctica pieces). So there
are the same amount of pallasites as there are Lunar
and Martian meteorites. That shows you how rare they
are, so finding that 180 gram first piece of this
pallasite was one of the luckiest days of my life, it
is a feeling that can't be described.

I will work on photos now, so expect to see an
expanded page soon.
Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite story #2

2007-03-17 Thread Michael Farmer
Yes, that is the question, but this desert is very
easy to search, and since virtually all of it was
found on the surface, I am confident that there is not
likely much more. We searched many miles in every
direction. One never knows, but three weeks of 14 hour
days of systematic searching makes me think that there
is not a lot of this meteorite to be found. the fact
that it is more than 10,000 miles away makes it a
little hard to hunt on weekends!
Michael Farmer
PS, the sales webpages will be listed in the next 30
minutes or so. 

--- Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Mike congratulations! Sounds like a very sparse
 strewn field. Do
 you think that is the end of it or did you just look
 at a small burp
 and there is more down range to find? Never can be
 sure with a
 pallasite, it could have come in like Peekskill and
 all you found was
 a small pop or spark that dropped a few fragments.
 There could be a
 lot more down range somewhere. The only problem is
 which way do you
 look?
 Any way congratulations.
 
 On 3/17/07, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Sorry for the broken email, I hit the wrong button
 and
  it sent before spell check and being finished.
 Here is
  the rest of the story.
 
 
  When I arrived at Robert's location, I could see
 him
  walking around and small black pallasite pieces
 laying
  all over the ground. There were 9 pieces on the
  surface, and several more under the sand. We could
 see
  the sandblasted metal and large olivine crystals
  glinting in the bright desert sun. We had a little
  celebration and set up camp at that spot. About
 four
  hour later, Robert excitedly yelled into the radio
  that he found more pieces a quarter mile away. I
 went
  over there and sure enough, 5 more pieces, laying
 in a
  line about 0.5 meter long embedded in the sandy
  surface. We hunted for hours more but found
 nothing
  else. That night we celebrated with an ice-cold
 bottle
  of fine champagne that we had bought in Duty Free.
 We
  forgot the glasses though, and I drank mine from a
  coffee mug, Robert drank his from an empty noodle
 cup!
  Even with the uncivilized utensils, that champagne
 was
  the taste of victory and success. We talked all
 night
  and found it difficult to sleep, wondering just
 how
  many kilos of pallasite we would find the next
 day.
  We were having difficulty deciding how we
 would
  divide up the small amount of material that Robert
 had
  found that day (less than 1 kilogram), who would
 get
  which piece etc, since I had found nothing. The
 next
  day however, would turn out to be mine. We had to
 go
  for fuel but returned late in the afternoon, where
 we
  started searching even before returning to camp. I
  decided to go check on the camp when to my
 amazement,
  about 30 meters from my tent, I drove up on a
 patch of
  pallasite pieces, 8 specimens on the surface
 totalling
  about 500 grams. We had been sleeping so close to
  those meteorites. Anyone who knows about hunting
 in
  the desert knows that lighting is everything. You
 can
  miss a large meteorite very close to you if you
 are
  looking into the sun, but put the sun and your
 back
  and it is hard to miss even a small meteorite in
 the
  sand. Later that evening, I found two more pieces
  visually, then after sunset, while gridding, I
 heard a
  scream on the detector being pulled behind the
 truck.
  I got out, saw nothing on the ground, and pulled
 out
  my Goldmaster for a spot check. As I swung the
 coil, I
  got a large signal so I called Robert over. We dug
 up
  about a 100 gram pallasite from about 3 cm under
 the
  soil. I swung again and heard nothing so I packed
 up
  the detector and continued driving. Robert
 immediately
  called me back and said that I had not found all
 of
  the meteorite, in my excitment to hunt I broke the
  cardinal rule, I did not fully check the hole.
 Robert
  got multiple meteorite signals only inches from
 where
  I had found the first one. We dug up more than 10
  pieces from that little area. Later that night,
 around
  10 pm, I got a large signal on the detector, only
  about 1 meter from a place where Robert had been
  pivoting the car on for hours during gridding.
  Unfortunately for him, he kept turning on the same
  point, rather than expanding out the turn. I cut
  accross that spot and found one of the most
 beautuful
  Pallasite pieces I have ever seen, weighong 216
 grams,
  shaped like a Klingon bird of Prey spaceship, with
 an
  olivine measuring over 40 mm long! He had missed
 it
  time and time again by less than three feet.
That specimen turned out to be the last one we
  would find. We gridded for almost two weeks after
  that, periodicly hunting meteorites elsewhere only
 to
  return to the pallasite strewnfield. We never
 found
  another piece, even though there is hardly a speck
 of
  sand that hadnt been driven over time and time
 again.
  The meteorites seems to be a very small fall.
 
  As you can find