Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Stolen lunar materials
It's like trying to sell the Mona Lisa, no art collector would buy it, because he would be branded a criminal by doing so. This is why the Mona Lisa is not only priceless, but worthless to a collector. There is no market value to the Mona Lisa, nor is there one for the Apollo Lunar samples While I understand the basic logic behind this, then why are insurance companies are willing to insure priceless works of art for a given dollar figure. Hey...if the government wants to establish a value for the lunar material, I believe there's still time to consign a small sample to one of the auctions coming up in Ticson? Craig __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Stolen lunar materials
Hi John, I'm of the opinion that the material stolen from NASA was for all practical purposes worthless on the collectable market. Let me elaborate; Most collectors willing to purchase lunar meteorites are intelligent, and successful people. All of these people would recognize that NASA lunar material is prohibited material. What thinking person would purchase a collectable that if you were found out having, could send you to jail, and ruin your life? It's like trying to sell the Mona Lisa, no art collector would buy it, because he would be branded a criminal by doing so. This is why the Mona Lisa is not only priceless, but worthless to a collector. There is no "market value" to the Mona Lisa, nor is there one for the Apollo Lunar samples. Best Regards, Geoff Cintron Island Meteorite http://www.islandmeteorite.com
[meteorite-list] Re: Stolen lunar materials
Yes Geoff, None of us would go near this material, we do know better. I think most of us would try and help in the recovery of any stolen material. The attorney wants to create an imagined scenario where our Government releases 113 grams of Lunar rocks for sale on the open market. What would list members and the public be willing to pay? I wouldn't attempt to say. Who can say? Geoff wrote: I'm of the opinion that the material stolen from NASA was for all practical purposes worthless on the collectable market. Let me elaborate; Most collectors willing to purchase lunar meteorites are intelligent, and successful people. All of these people would recognize that NASA lunar material is prohibited material. What thinking person would purchase a collectable that if you were found out having, could send you to jail, and ruin your life? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Stolen lunar materials
Dear List, and John; I feel that a price can not be set as they are priceless for the below reasons. What price could be put on the Statue of Liberty? Value is worth much more than the replacement value. No honest collector would buy these samples as they are indeed priceless in the legal world. Dave Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, I'm of the opinion that the material stolen from NASA was for all practical purposes worthless on the collectable market. Let me elaborate; Most collectors willing to purchase lunar meteorites are intelligent, and successful people. All of these people would recognize that NASA lunar material is prohibited material. What thinking person would purchase a collectable that if you were found out having, could send you to jail, and ruin your life? It's like trying to sell the Mona Lisa, no art collector would buy it, because he would be branded a criminal by doing so. This is why the Mona Lisa is not only priceless, but worthless to a collector. There is no market value to the Mona Lisa, nor is there one for the Apollo Lunar samples. Best Regards, Geoff Cintron Island Meteorite http://www.islandmeteorite.com/ http://www.islandmeteorite.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Stolen lunar materials
John Sinclair wrote: The attorney wants to create an imagined scenario where our Government releases 113 grams of Lunar rocks for sale on the open market. What would list members and the public be willing to pay? I wouldn't attempt to say. Who can say? Okay here's a low-ball estimate for the defense. Take the 113 g lunar material and divide each gram into 50 lucite cubes (1/10 carat each) and sell them on QVC. They would probably sell for a few thousand apiece so multiply 5,650 units by a few thousand each to get between approx. $12,000 and $30,000. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Stolen lunar materials
Dear list members, I feel very strongly about this subject! I believe in today's economy this material would sell for well over $100,000.00 a gram. There was a case when a 1 gram NASA sample made it into private hands and a valid offer of over $5,000,000.00 was made before the government stepped in. I believe they are still fighting over the ownership of this piece. This specimen was originally a gift to Honduras by president Nixon, I believe, and a private individual hoodwinked them out of it with trade worth $50,000.00, now they are asking for it back. Another case is when lunar dust was found on some NASA Apollo refuse that went up for auction. It was confirmed lunar and clear tape was used to remove the dust from the bag it was found in. These small pieces of tape with a framed certificate sell for over $1,000.00. There can not be more than 2 milligrams per section of tape, This would amount to $500,000.00 per gram. The market is pretty thin and with 113 grams put out at once I still feel it would have a street value of over $100,000.00 per gram or $11,300,000.00. Without certification I feel it could be fenced at $10,000.00 a gram because there are a lot of people who have no respect for such things and would purchase it anyway. As far as the ALH 84001 specimen goes I could see it easily selling for $500,000.00 a gram because it is more famous than even the Apollo rocks. In any case these idiots should spend a long in prison for ripping off a national treasure that belongs to everyone, not just NASA. All the best, Adam Hupe - Original Message - From: John Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Stolen lunar materials Yes Geoff, None of us would go near this material, we do know better. I think most of us would try and help in the recovery of any stolen material. The attorney wants to create an imagined scenario where our Government releases 113 grams of Lunar rocks for sale on the open market. What would list members and the public be willing to pay? I wouldn't attempt to say. Who can say? Geoff wrote: I'm of the opinion that the material stolen from NASA was for all practical purposes worthless on the collectable market. Let me elaborate; Most collectors willing to purchase lunar meteorites are intelligent, and successful people. All of these people would recognize that NASA lunar material is prohibited material. What thinking person would purchase a collectable that if you were found out having, could send you to jail, and ruin your life? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
