[meteorite-list] Re : Tucson Turtle Skull
Hi Michael, First of all, it has no fusion crust anywhere on it. Number two, it isn't attracted to a magnet and I doubt it's a lunar or martian. And lastly, it looks too much like an animal skull to be a meteorite. I think you were scammed. ;) LOL Best regards, MikeG . Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network. Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com .. -- Message: 13 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:30:25 -0800 From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson ID To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: c5cb30b1.e74%mlbl...@cox.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII I bought a turtle skull at the Tucson Show. The seller gave me a good price bud showed Me where it was partially restored and stated That it had been attached to a different matrix Than the one it was found in. He could not give me the following info of Importance to me and I was wondering if any of You can? 1) Aprox age 2) General Location / origin 3) Species Any knowledge added to what little I have Will be appreciated - thanks. You can see it at: http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2529758610035542431yIXEYr RSVP thanks, Michael -- __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Tucson Turtle Skull
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:24:40 -0800 (PST), you wrote: And lastly, it looks too much like an animal skull to be a meteorite. Can't rule out a very small relative of _Chelys_galactica_. Maybe from a DiscAsteroid... __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Ring Scam
You know, with all the campos and beer flying around Tucson during Feburary, there is a chance that someone lost a campo off the roof of their car or something like that. Dear Martin: Thanks for that. I thought it a good idea to put this info out there for you all to consider. In all honesty, I wondered the same kind of thing. I told the lady it looked like a Campo, and was it possible that they'd picked up something at the Gem Show and got it confused with one of their own finds (trying to be diplomatic). And then I considered the possibility that a hunter could have taken a Campo out to calibrate her/his detector and forgotten it, or lost it (wouldn't be a very good hunter). Was it our friend Rob Matson who found a perfectly polished stone meteorite slice on one of his dry lake bed hunts? Now that's weird. Personally, I prefer your explanation : ) Regards, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 2006....see you in one week
High of 68 F today. Sunny, breezy . . . lovely. Bring shorts! Quick report from the wintry Ketsch in Southern Germany ;-) I could only bring snow shovels because we are busy shoveling lots of snow in our driveways and on the sidewalks in front of our houses. Who or what's to blame ??? The Russian cold front that came sweeping in from the east and bumped into a warmer weather front over Western Europe. Enjoy Tucson, enjoy the birthday bash, enjoy the Brenham main mass! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 2006....see you in one week
Dear Bernd and List, Bernd wrote: Enjoy Tucson, enjoy the birthday bash, enjoy the Brenham main mass! The Brenham main mass is definitely worth seeing in person! I had the privilege to see it while visiting with Phil in December, very cool! I will be bringing the 1,122 gram main mass of my new lunar, NWA 3163, so if you see me at the show, ask to see it. Looks like the year of the large meteorites! Take care, Greg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 2006see you in one week High of 68 F today. Sunny, breezy . . . lovely. Bring shorts! Quick report from the wintry Ketsch in Southern Germany ;-) I could only bring snow shovels because we are busy shoveling lots of snow in our driveways and on the sidewalks in front of our houses. Who or what's to blame ??? The Russian cold front that came sweeping in from the east and bumped into a warmer weather front over Western Europe. Enjoy Tucson, enjoy the birthday bash, enjoy the Brenham main mass! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 2006....see you in one week
Hello All: Quick report from the Wild West: Mike Farmer is already set up with a great display; Al Lang arrived last night. Lots of other friends and colleagues moving in. The trees on the InnSuites lawn are full of oranges. High of 68 F today. Sunny, breezy . . . lovely. Bring shorts! Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson auction
Michael L Blood wrote: The Tucson Auction will be held Saturday, Feb 4, 7:30 PM Dear Listees: Michael and I have already put our heads together regarding scheduling for Tucson '06. As always, it is our intention to hold the Meteor Mayhem Birthday Bash/Harvey Awards on the same weekend at Michael's auction. This is to accommodate those who are only able to fly in to town for a few days. We expect the annual party to be on Friday, Feb. 3, 2006, location TBA. We hope to return to the Copper Club at the former Vagabond Inn/Ramada University on N. Oracle, if they will re-open for Tucson '06. I believe that Allan Lang will be holding his annual R.A. Langheinrich Meteorites auction of high-end meteorites on the same weekend. I was in brief communication with Darryl Pitt recently, and am sorry to report that his friend and client Michael Brecker is very seriously ill. Darryl said he was therefore unable to commit to any plans regarding a Macovich Collection auction for Tucson '06 at this time. We'll post further info when we have it, but for those of you wishing to make advance bookings, the weekend of Feb. 4 - 6, 2006 will be when we hold most or all of the large social functions. Regards, Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson auction [correction]
Sorry all, that should have been the weekend of Feb. 3 - 5, 2006 (not Feb. 4 - 6). Regards, Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson
Never going to happen. The tucson show has too big of a draw to worry about saving a few bucks on the room. Dealers would lose money in the long run. Randy - Original Message - From: MarkF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteor list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Hi list Have been checking hotel rates and I found that Laughlin Nevada has $25/night Sunday-Thursday and $49/night Friday and Saturday rates during the Cloud's jamboree with special rates for vendors at some hotels. Its too late I'd think to change from Tucson to Laughlin for the upcoming show, but for 2007, I'd like to see some serious thought put towards the move of the meteorite show. Cloud's jamboree has long been a major rock and gem show and combined with the GLW wholesale show, it provides for many vendors and buyers from around the world, not to mention the tourist trade. With many (thousands) of rooms just in the casino hotels, nearby Kingman and Needles also offer hotels and an easy commute, finding a place to stay shouldn't be the problem like at Tucson The only drawback is flights which either put you into Kingman or Las Vegas. But still, would be minor when a flight and car to Nevada are under $400 r/t Mark. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson
Mark posted: Cloud's jamboree has long been a major rock and gem show and combined with the GLW wholesale show, it provides for many vendors and buyers from around the world, not to mention the tourist trade. Dear Mark and List: I'm not familiar with Cloud's Jamboree, but would like to be. Do you know the dates for that show, or is there a website? If so, please forward, I'd like to check it out. Does this show take place in Laughlin? Its too late I'd think to change from Tucson to Laughlin for the upcoming show, but for 2007, I'd like to see some serious thought put towards the move of the meteorite show. The Gem show has been running in Tucson for 51 years. It's a huge moneymaker for the promoters and the city, and it's not going to move to another town just so visitors can maybe get cheaper hotel rooms, though having paid some hefty hotel bills here in the past, I do sympathize with you. rant Rooms in Tucson are cheap now -- you can get a nice suite next to the pool for $49/night. As you know, they go up drastically during the show due to the greed of hotel owners and promoters who squeeze every penny they can out of visiting dealers and buyers. Even a single at the crummy Super 8 on Frontage Road costs $89/night + a high occupancy tax during the show -- if you're lucky. There has been a lot of unofficial grumbling about the show from certain dealers, and they have every right to grumble, especially this past year (Feb. 2005) when so many were moved to new locations, mistreated by promoters, and forced to set up in useless hotels with no walk-in traffic, miles away from the main show. In addition, vendors are harassed by state officials over the use of non-regulated digital scales and sales tax issues. The Gem show is the biggest event of the year for us here in Tucson. Every hotel room in town is booked, and every decent restaurant is packed night after night. IMO the city should be very grateful for this gigantic income and do more to help visiting vendors, instead of hassling them. Also, it would be nice if JUST ONCE they suspended road work downtown for those two weeks. Another peeve of mine is the gang of urchins who charge $5 to park on some patch of waste ground next to the highway which is vacant for the rest of the year. The show promoters are making enough money -- they need to provide adequate free parking and better shuttle bus service. /rant A few suggestions for show visitors looking to save money: - Buddy up with two or three of your pals, and get a big suite in a nicer hotel. It ends up being cheaper per person, plus you can throw some monster parties. - Stay at one of the motels on the outskirts of town -- off the highway (I-10). There are a number to choose from and they are a little cheaper (Motel 6 in South Tucson, which we used to call Motel Hell, In-Town Suites on Ina, etc.). - Camp outside the city and drive in each day. - Find a motel in a neighboring town, like Benson, and commute to the show each morning by car. You have to really like driving for this to work. - Stay at one of the cheap dodgy Bates Motel motels on Miracle Mile or North Oracle. Steve Arnold IMB and I had to do that one time and we got a room with no bed sheets for $50 cash. I have friends who stay every year at the No-Tel Motel on N. Oracle and they always *do* have some stories to tell. - Crash on Blaine Reed's floor (sorry Blaine, just kidding). - Stay at my house like everybody else -- oops, sorry already full up for next year Or . . . do what I did and just move here. Then the room prices aren't even an issue : ) With many (thousands) of rooms just in the casino hotels, nearby Kingman and Needles also offer hotels and an easy commute, finding a place to stay shouldn't be the problem like at Tucson I can hardly believe there are more hotel rooms in Laughlin than Tucson. Greater Tucson has a population of ~1,000,000; Laughlin ~8,000. Another reason the Tucson show is a lasting success is because people like coming here, especially in the winter. Tucson is a great city with a fascinating history and all kinds entertainment and cultural options. No offense to Laughlin, which is fun for a night out at the casino, but you can't compare it to Tucson. Whatever you do, may I suggest that you book your rooms way in advance. It is always very difficult to get any kind of a room around showtime, and no you can't camp in my yard, sorry. We have wild bobcats and I don't want to have to clean up the mess in the morning : ) Best wishes, and I hope to see you in February. Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson
Dear List, Do not stay at, I repeat do not stay at: ECONO LODGE TUCSON 1136 N STONE AVE TUCSON AZ US 85705 Phone: 520-622-6714 We booked a three bedroom suite at this rat hole only to find out it is run by a bunch of Indian con artists. The first thing they did when we checked in is try to charge us an extra $150.00 for the day before we arrived saying that we called and wanted the room a day early. We said there must have been a mistake and showed the female Indian who could barely speak English our itinerary only to have her say you pay extra night or no room. She knew how hard it was to get a room during the show and thought she had us on the spot. We refused to pay for the extra night and she told us to leave. We left after some choice words with here and here husband who manage the place and she billed my credit card nearly a $1,000.00 anyway even though we were refused service. I reported these con artists to my credit card company and an eight month battle ensued requiring legal action. She lied and said we stayed there even though I signed nothing. Luckily I had three witnesses to the unpleasant event or I would have been out of some serious money. I booked the room through Hotels.com so be careful. Take Care, Adam - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Mark posted: Cloud's jamboree has long been a major rock and gem show and combined with the GLW wholesale show, it provides for many vendors and buyers from around the world, not to mention the tourist trade. Dear Mark and List: I'm not familiar with Cloud's Jamboree, but would like to be. Do you know the dates for that show, or is there a website? If so, please forward, I'd like to check it out. Does this show take place in Laughlin? Its too late I'd think to change from Tucson to Laughlin for the upcoming show, but for 2007, I'd like to see some serious thought put towards the move of the meteorite show. The Gem show has been running in Tucson for 51 years. It's a huge moneymaker for the promoters and the city, and it's not going to move to another town just so visitors can maybe get cheaper hotel rooms, though having paid some hefty hotel bills here in the past, I do sympathize with you. rant Rooms in Tucson are cheap now -- you can get a nice suite next to the pool for $49/night. As you know, they go up drastically during the show due to the greed of hotel owners and promoters who squeeze every penny they can out of visiting dealers and buyers. Even a single at the crummy Super 8 on Frontage Road costs $89/night + a high occupancy tax during the show -- if you're lucky. There has been a lot of unofficial grumbling about the show from certain dealers, and they have every right to grumble, especially this past year (Feb. 2005) when so many were moved to new locations, mistreated by promoters, and forced to set up in useless hotels with no walk-in traffic, miles away from the main show. In addition, vendors are harassed by state officials over the use of non-regulated digital scales and sales tax issues. The Gem show is the biggest event of the year for us here in Tucson. Every hotel room in town is booked, and every decent restaurant is packed night after night. IMO the city should be very grateful for this gigantic income and do more to help visiting vendors, instead of hassling them. Also, it would be nice if JUST ONCE they suspended road work downtown for those two weeks. Another peeve of mine is the gang of urchins who charge $5 to park on some patch of waste ground next to the highway which is vacant for the rest of the year. The show promoters are making enough money -- they need to provide adequate free parking and better shuttle bus service. /rant A few suggestions for show visitors looking to save money: - Buddy up with two or three of your pals, and get a big suite in a nicer hotel. It ends up being cheaper per person, plus you can throw some monster parties. - Stay at one of the motels on the outskirts of town -- off the highway (I-10). There are a number to choose from and they are a little cheaper (Motel 6 in South Tucson, which we used to call Motel Hell, In-Town Suites on Ina, etc.). - Camp outside the city and drive in each day. - Find a motel in a neighboring town, like Benson, and commute to the show each morning by car. You have to really like driving for this to work. - Stay at one of the cheap dodgy Bates Motel motels on Miracle Mile or North Oracle. Steve Arnold IMB and I had to do that one time and we got a room with no bed sheets for $50 cash. I have friends who stay every year at the No-Tel Motel on N. Oracle and they always *do* have some stories to tell. - Crash on Blaine Reed's floor (sorry Blaine, just kidding). - Stay at my house like everybody else -- oops
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson
I would suggest we send 500 emails to these people with some well-chosen suggestions, and I also hope they have been reported to the Tucson BBB as well. If it were me, I would make noises to the local CofC suggesting these kinds of businesses be run out of town. If enough people bothered to complain about all the business scams there would be fewer of them. We and everyone else drop enough money at these conventions that the city can at least clean up the town. It would be a good thing for anyone else to let us all know of any other local scammers to avoid. And conversely, any especially good experiences with responsible local vendors. Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Dear List, Do not stay at, I repeat do not stay at: ECONO LODGE TUCSON 1136 N STONE AVE TUCSON AZ US 85705 Phone: 520-622-6714 We booked a three bedroom suite at this rat hole only to find out it is run by a bunch of Indian con artists. The first thing they did when we checked in is try to charge us an extra $150.00 for the day before we arrived saying that we called and wanted the room a day early. We said there must have been a mistake and showed the female Indian who could barely speak English our itinerary only to have her say you pay extra night or no room. She knew how hard it was to get a room during the show and thought she had us on the spot. We refused to pay for the extra night and she told us to leave. We left after some choice words with here and here husband who manage the place and she billed my credit card nearly a $1,000.00 anyway even though we were refused service. I reported these con artists to my credit card company and an eight month battle ensued requiring legal action. She lied and said we stayed there even though I signed nothing. Luckily I had three witnesses to the unpleasant event or I would have been out of some serious money. I booked the room through Hotels.com so be careful. Take Care, Adam - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 2:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Mark posted: Cloud's jamboree has long been a major rock and gem show and combined with the GLW wholesale show, it provides for many vendors and buyers from around the world, not to mention the tourist trade. Dear Mark and List: I'm not familiar with Cloud's Jamboree, but would like to be. Do you know the dates for that show, or is there a website? If so, please forward, I'd like to check it out. Does this show take place in Laughlin? Its too late I'd think to change from Tucson to Laughlin for the upcoming show, but for 2007, I'd like to see some serious thought put towards the move of the meteorite show. The Gem show has been running in Tucson for 51 years. It's a huge moneymaker for the promoters and the city, and it's not going to move to another town just so visitors can maybe get cheaper hotel rooms, though having paid some hefty hotel bills here in the past, I do sympathize with you. rant Rooms in Tucson are cheap now -- you can get a nice suite next to the pool for $49/night. As you know, they go up drastically during the show due to the greed of hotel owners and promoters who squeeze every penny they can out of visiting dealers and buyers. Even a single at the crummy Super 8 on Frontage Road costs $89/night + a high occupancy tax during the show -- if you're lucky. There has been a lot of unofficial grumbling about the show from certain dealers, and they have every right to grumble, especially this past year (Feb. 2005) when so many were moved to new locations, mistreated by promoters, and forced to set up in useless hotels with no walk-in traffic, miles away from the main show. In addition, vendors are harassed by state officials over the use of non-regulated digital scales and sales tax issues. The Gem show is the biggest event of the year for us here in Tucson. Every hotel room in town is booked, and every decent restaurant is packed night after night. IMO the city should be very grateful for this gigantic income and do more to help visiting vendors, instead of hassling them. Also, it would be nice if JUST ONCE they suspended road work downtown for those two weeks. Another peeve of mine is the gang of urchins who charge $5 to park on some patch of waste ground next to the highway which is vacant for the rest of the year. The show promoters are making enough money -- they need to provide adequate free parking and better shuttle bus service. /rant A few suggestions for show visitors looking to save money: - Buddy up with two or three of your pals, and get a big suite in a nicer hotel. It ends
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson
Hi Ron and List, My guess is that I touched some nerves with my last posting to the List about the con artists at Econo Lodge Tucson. I just received numerous responses in a matter of minutes. This incident left a bad taste in our mouths at the show but we were lucky to get a really crappy room in a bad part of town within a few hours only to find out we could have stayed across the street cheaper in a better place. It was not a good start to the show but we managed to have a great time despite these bad people. I spent months writing letters to anybody who would listen about the incident including that corporate office of Econo Lodge who permanently filed my complaint on their record. I sent emails to Triple A. who also said they would look into it. I sent a complaint to Hotels.com who did not do a thing about it. Only after taking legal action with my credit card company did anything happen. It probably took over a hundred hours of phone calls, letter writing and emails to get my money back. I asked the credit card company if they would file a criminal complaint and they said no. These crooks probably know nothing will happen to them from a criminal standpoint and will continue this unsavory practice. Welcome to America where you can get away with grand larceny with no criminal consequences. I was glad to have my money credited back because it was a very frustrating and time consuming process that I could barely spare the time for. I just want make others aware so they don't run into the same problems. Kind Regards, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 05 Retrospective; Exactly why this list needs moderation.
Geoff Cintron posted: If I were Geoff I would be damn mad that this idiot could get away with hijacking my thread Dear Geoff and List: Thanks for that. Nice to see you posting to the List again : ) You are right, I was very angry. Like you, I was looking forward to hearing about other listees' experiences in Tucson -- not yet another round of this meteorwrong B.S., so I wrote a brutally sarcastic reply to DeRusse last night, and then I didn't bother to post it . . . because he and his Soggy Bottom Meteorite Country Bumpkin Boys evidently crave the attention. They don't seem to be able to tell a meteorite from a cow pocky, and no matter how many universities tell them that their meteorites are lame old river rocks, they just keep on with it. I really wouldn't care -- it's their time to waste -- except for their cruelty towards Dr. Ehlmann who, as you know, is a friend of mine. Why on earth would somebody post nasty made-up things about our Dr. Ehlmann -- an eminent geologist and universally liked and respected scientist -- not to mention, a Harvey Award winner? Because they're jealous? Because their heads are full of compacted grey dust that must be from the moon since it's *grey* dust? Because they are so useless in the field that they can't find a real meteorite? Who knows, but it's got to stop. List members, please make your views on this matter known immediately to the List Moderator. Email me off-List if you need his email address. Hey DeRusse, I will answer your question about the nomination procedure: The mighty Harvey Awards Committee (of which I am very honored to be a founding member) decides who receives the meteorite collecting community's awards each year. The only qualifications we have are the friendship, good humor, and respect of our peers . . . things I'm afraid you won't experience in this lifetime. Geoff N. Harvey Awards Committee Member and pleased to be considered a friend of Dr. Ehlmann __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 05 Retrospective; Exactly why this list needs moderation.
Well said Geoff, These guys are as crazy as they come. Pretty sad when every university you send your junk to tells you it isn't a meteorite, and you get more and more angry and spiteful that you resort to defaming people like Art Ehlmann. I call people like that COWARDS, nothing more, nothing less. I hope the end up living in a cave like the Frass freak did. That tells us alot about that guy. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 05 Retrospective;Exactly why this list needs moderation. Geoff Cintron posted: If I were Geoff I would be damn mad that this idiot could get away with hijacking my thread Dear Geoff and List: Thanks for that. Nice to see you posting to the List again : ) You are right, I was very angry. Like you, I was looking forward to hearing about other listees' experiences in Tucson -- not yet another round of this meteorwrong B.S., so I wrote a brutally sarcastic reply to DeRusse last night, and then I didn't bother to post it . . . because he and his Soggy Bottom Meteorite Country Bumpkin Boys evidently crave the attention. They don't seem to be able to tell a meteorite from a cow pocky, and no matter how many universities tell them that their meteorites are lame old river rocks, they just keep on with it. I really wouldn't care -- it's their time to waste -- except for their cruelty towards Dr. Ehlmann who, as you know, is a friend of mine. Why on earth would somebody post nasty made-up things about our Dr. Ehlmann -- an eminent geologist and universally liked and respected scientist -- not to mention, a Harvey Award winner? Because they're jealous? Because their heads are full of compacted grey dust that must be from the moon since it's *grey* dust? Because they are so useless in the field that they can't find a real meteorite? Who knows, but it's got to stop. List members, please make your views on this matter known immediately to the List Moderator. Email me off-List if you need his email address. Hey DeRusse, I will answer your question about the nomination procedure: The mighty Harvey Awards Committee (of which I am very honored to be a founding member) decides who receives the meteorite collecting community's awards each year. The only qualifications we have are the friendship, good humor, and respect of our peers . . . things I'm afraid you won't experience in this lifetime. Geoff N. Harvey Awards Committee Member and pleased to be considered a friend of Dr. Ehlmann __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 2005 Meteorite Mayhem Party Mystery Person
Hi List, What a great time we had at the Tucson show this year. I want to send a special thanks to Geoff Notkin Steve Arnold for the awesome party on Friday night. Twink Monrad and Jim Kriegh brought a beautifully decorated Gold Basin birthday cake that was as delicious as it looked. Thanks to all of the others that pitched in to make it such a good night. I really enjoyed seeing so many of the list members and meteorite hunters and hearing some of their cool stories about meteorite hunting trips. I was surprised and honored to receive the Harvey award (thanks again). It made it awful hard to drive back to Vegas holding it in one hand and showing it to people as they drove by!! My wife had to sleep in the other bed in our hotel room to make room for my new award!! Just teasing. I can't wait to see all of the meteorite folks again next year. The gentleman winning the Harvey award in Arizona Keith's photo is Jose Guggiari the famous Campo hunter. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2005harveyawards66.jpg Thanks, Sonny __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson airport question/THANKS!
A big 'Thank you!' to all who responded so quickly to my question. It sounds like the main car rental building is the place. That was our original plan but it's nice to know exactly where it's located. See y'all! Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Show, Party, Harvey Awards, Venue, etc.
Cap'n Blood posted: First: Thanks to you and Steve Arnold (of Arkansas) for the great dinners and awards of the past. Dear Michael, Dave, Bob, and All: Well . . . you're welcome Michael! Thanks for participating every year, and for putting on your most excellent auctions. Our Big Weekend in Tucson is one of the highlights of the year for me. I also appreciate your feedback. I like La Fuente too, but some of our guests were unhappy with the service; others found it too crowded or too expensive, or too slow; some couldn't hear the awards ceremony from the back of the room, etc. Also, La Fuente is now under new management and . . . well, the bottom line really is that after three years in the same venue Steve and I felt that a change was in order. We don't want our meteorite parties to get stuck in an old rut! There is certainly the option for those who would like, to get together early for a dinner at La Fuente, or elsewhere, or to go the AAPS buffet at the Mineral and Fossil Co-op, which is fun and will be good food too. I don't think serving food at the Arizona Plaza during the party is a realistic option, as it would have to be catered (there is no restaurant on the premises) and that would put me in the poor house in no time. Smoked salmon, caviar and Grey Goose vodka martinis for all you wonderful guys?! Yikes! : ) Where, exactly, is this place, anyway? (In reference to one of the better known dealer's location). The hotel we are considering is the old Ramada Inn University, on North Oracle and Drachman, now called the Arizona Plaza. It's the hotel with the palm trees and big lawn where Blaine has set up for many years, along with many of the fossil dealers, and is just across the way from the Executive Inn where Allan Lang and others set up. I did get a few positive replies off-List, regarding this idea. Thanks! I realize this discussion is somewhat OT and I apologize if it bores List members who are not coming to Tucson '05. But then . . . there *is* still plenty of time to get a room at the Arizona Plaza : ) Regards to all, Geoff N. www.notkin.net www.paleozoic.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Show, Party, Harvey Awards, Venue, etc.
Yes - this is what I meant is there space in the room of the AAPS buffet where the meteorite folks could congregate for a meal. Dear Michael: I expect that would work. George Winters at AAPS who is organizing the event said they were prepared to serve about 150 people. The Mineral and Fossil Co-op is a big space, so there should be plenty of room. Here is all the info: http://www.aaps.net/meetings.htm You can buy dinner tix during the week from the AAPS booth at the InnSuites. If you and some of the guys want to organize to go together and sit together, I'm sure you can manage it with no problem, but I'm going to be too busy with the party and awards to coordinate that, so it's up to you. However, I am planning on going to the AAPS event before the party, myself. Their dinner and auction is a lot of fun, and for worthy causes too (paleontology scholarships, etc.) and then go to the area (still not to clear to me) where the awards will be at say 9PM?? Exactly. The Co-op is at 1635 North Oracle, and literally right next door to the hotel where we're thinking of holding the party. You must have gone to Blaine Reed's room during your many visits to the gem show? Well, it's that same hotel (now called the Arizona Plaza, 1601 North Oracle) where we're hoping to have the party and awards -- either in their lounge bar or their ballroom. Same place where Black Hills Institute, Bill Mason, and many others have set up in the past. I am currently discussing options with the hotel manager. It's a very good idea to have Jim and Paul to post all the info on The Meteorite Exchange Tucson Show page when we get it sorted out. I'll post the info to them and to the List when everything is finalized, but I think we've probably covered this in enough detail for now : ) Thank you all for your input. See you in a few weeks. Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Show, Party, Harvey Awards, Venue, etc.
Dear Geoff, There are many of us in need of your local-giving personal touch (free of course) for getting our Tucson itineraries together for each day of our trip this winter. Personally, I need a really a cheap flight, a nice rent-a-car and a place to stay for 4 nights(cheap of course), 3-squares a day, a place to hang out every night, some cash (if you have any extra), hand picked awesome meteorites purchased earlier in the week(I'm good for the ones I like and are not too costly), no rain and in the 70's each day, and anything else you can think of that I might deserve. Call me at home when it is all straightened out. Oh...thanks in advance of course. Still your friend, John PS 50-50 I'll actually make it back again this year...but you know I'm worth the gamble. -- Original message from Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Yes - this is what I meant is there space in the room of the AAPS buffet where the meteorite folks could congregate for a meal. Dear Michael: I expect that would work. George Winters at AAPS who is organizing the event said they were prepared to serve about 150 people. The Mineral and Fossil Co-op is a big space, so there should be plenty of room. Here is all the info: http://www.aaps.net/meetings.htm You can buy dinner tix during the week from the AAPS booth at the InnSuites. If you and some of the guys want to organize to go together and sit together, I'm sure you can manage it with no problem, but I'm going to be too busy with the party and awards to coordinate that, so it's up to you. However, I am planning on going to the AAPS event before the party, myself. Their dinner and auction is a lot of fun, and for worthy causes too (paleontology scholarships, etc.) and then go to the area (still not to clear to me) where the awards will be at say 9PM?? Exactly. The Co-op is at 1635 North Oracle, and literally right next door to the hotel where we're thinking of holding the party. You must have gone to Blaine Reed's room during your many visits to the gem show? Well, it's that same hotel (now called the Arizona Plaza, 1601 North Oracle) where we're hoping to have the party and awards -- either in their lounge bar or their ballroom. Same place where Black Hills Institute, Bill Mason, and many others have set up in the past. I am currently discussing options with the hotel manager. It's a very good idea to have Jim and Paul to post all the info on The Meteorite Exchange Tucson Show page when we get it sorted out. I'll post the info to them and to the List when everything is finalized, but I think we've probably covered this in enough detail for now : ) Thank you all for your input. See you in a few weeks. Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 2005 - Meteoritic Dates?
Nick posted: Yes, it seems early to ask, but can someone tell me the prime dates for meteoritical events? I've heard it's February 4 - 5 (Friday - Saturday) . Dear Nick and List: Here's are the details that we have so far. Looking forward to seeing you and the rest of the gang here, in a little over three months. Geoff N. Tucson, AZ * FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2005 [Evening] All are invited to attend the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem Birthday Bash Harvey Awards at 8 pm. Location of the event is TBA. After three years at the La Fuente restaurant, we are considering a change of venue for the following reasons: we've outgrown the big room at La Fuente; the nearby Vagabond Inn (formerly the Ramada University and home to Blaine Reed Meteorites) is no longer a show venue; and also because we'd just like to find somewhere a little more interesting and unusual. Details to follow. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2005 [Afternoon] Allan Lang will host an auction of exceptional meteorites from the R.A. Langheinrich Meteorite Collection at the elegant Westward Look Resort on Ina Road, Saturday afternoon at 2:30 pm. An online catalog of specimens will be posted at www.nyrockman.com closer to the event. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2005 [Evening] Michael Blood's ever-popular People's Meteorite Auction will take place at the VFW Hall, Post 4903, 1150 N. Beverly Avenue on the Saturday evening. This is the same location as the 2004 auction. The new hall was a big hit with everyone due to its spacious event room and full cash bar. An online catalog of specimens will be posted at www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com closer to the event. SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2005 [Morning] Darryl Pitt's Macovich Collection meteorite auction will return to the sunny InnSuites lawn after a one year hiatus, on the Sunday morning. An online catalog of specimens will be posted at www.macovich.com closer to the event. SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2005 [Afternoon] Allan Lang and colleagues present a very special free event: You are invited to meet Apollo astronaut, moon walker, and celebrated geologist Dr. Harrison Jack Schmitt when he appears in person at the Westward Look Resort on the Sunday afternoon. Details: http://www.nyrockman.com/tucson-2005.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson help/Trenton or Belmont
Good idea...you can have the macro's. I'll take the micros. LOL ; ) From the snowy northland as well, Ryan - Original Message - From: Mark Langenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 4:23 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson help/Trenton or Belmont It looks as though I will be missing out on Tucson for the first time in ten years. The resulting pain would be considerably eased, however, if I could locate and acquire a decent-sized (larger than micro) piece of Trenton (III A), Washington Co., WI. Almost as good would be a Belmont (H6), Grant Co., WI. If any of you in Tucson or Tucson bound either has such a specimen or encounters one while there and would let me know, I would be most grateful. Many thanks from the snowy northland, Mark -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson dealer/show fees
Michael B. posted: What the hay is a Tucson show fee number? Dear Michael: That's the little ticket stub they give you, so you can see the Dancing Meteorite Showgirls. See y'all very soon for some Wild West capers in Tucson, Arizoney. : ) Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Meteorite Show Video
Jim posted: It is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that all of you order this video. Dear Jim and List: I must second Jim's praise of John Gwilliam and Bob Holme's Tucson video. My copy arrived today. It is hugely enjoyable and of a very professional quality . . . and I'm not just saying that because I'm in it : ) The film contains great segments with some of your favorite meteorite characters; footage of Gold Basin adventures, and more. Well done Bob and John! I hope that making a documentary film at the show will become an annual event. Regards, Geoff N. www.paleozoic.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 2003
h...Blake?? roflmao Rosie - Original Message - From: Bob Martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 2003 I too had a great experience with the Reid brothers. I had no idea there even WAS a Blake until I met him. They invited me out to dinner along with Worf Martinez and another gentleman whose name escapes me at the moment. I haven't laughed so hard in years (that margarita bigger than my new 19-pound Campo helped a lot). Sadly, I could only stay for the start of the B-day party. Now all I want to know is this: When Blane and Blake go back to Colorado, who gets to grow the goatee and be the evil one? - Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ Can you really name a star? Read the Truth! http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ . The Tucson show was awesome and so were all the neat people I met. Mark and Jason were super fun to hang with. Upon entering the Reid's room, there was double trouble looking like mirror images sitting there..They even bobbed their heads in the same manner... Finally I figured that the funny one was Blake while the serious businessman was Blaine. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson Countdown + Reminder
Geoff, Please put me down for an invite. I don't know how many events I'll be able to attend, as I'll also be working the show. This will be my first year, and frankly, I'm scared! :) Seriously, is there a calendar of events for us newbies? I need to start planning my schedule and wheedling my boss for precious time off. - Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ Bow down, bow down... before the power of SANTA or be crushed, be crushed by... his jolly boots of DOOM! - Invader Zim In a little over six weeks, many of us will be arriving in sunny Tucson, Arizona, so I hope you all have your hotels and flights booked! The weekend of February 7 - 9, 2003 will be action-packed with parties, auctions, and other events. If there are any more List members who would like to join us at the Fourth Annual Notkin/Arnold Meteor Mayhem Birthday Bash you should RSVP to me soon. I'll be mailing out invitations in early January. If you have received an invitation in the past, you will again this time, so no need to reply. Looking forward to seeing many of you Out West, and best wishes to List members the world over for a happy -- and hopefully war-free -- 2003. Regards, Geoff Notkin www.paleozoic.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: TUCSON Auctions ad
And why would he need an attorney? Last I checked you only need money at an auction. Anytime money is involved one always finds attorneys hanging around. :) Bob MartinoCan you really name a star? http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ This is how men behave when they believe they have absolute knowledge. -Jacob Bronowski (speaking from the ashes of Auschwitz) Show your support at the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund - http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-pay-page/PKAXFNQH7EKCX/058-5084202-7156648 ___ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
