[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_16_2011.html Wow, drop-dead gorgeous, and very exceptional with that special provenance! Alex Berlin/Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011
Congratulations Dr Mignon on your acquisition of a beautiful specimen of Sikhote Alin. The label I would interpret as 0098 because the lower loop of the number 8 type is usually larger than the upper one in typewriters during that time period, even if it does not jive with Fesenkov Krinov SA catalog. gary On Mar 16, 2011, at 4:01 AM, Michael Johnson wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_16_2011.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011
First thank you all for your nice comments. Gary, I thought the same thing but I would not trust their typewriters. You can see for example that they used the letter I instead of the number 1 for that specimen: http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/img/img_met/1-5_SikhoteAlin_SAS.jpg Or maybe the 8 is stretched because of the soft sticker. Moreover, it seems that all early numbers are very large masses. Best regards, Arnaud The Tricottet Collection (Historic Minerals, Fossils Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com Facebook: The Tricottet Collection Twitter: TricottetColl From: fuj...@mac.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:02:47 -1000 To: mich...@rocksfromspace.org CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011 Congratulations Dr Mignon on your acquisition of a beautiful specimen of Sikhote Alin. The label I would interpret as 0098 because the lower loop of the number 8 type is usually larger than the upper one in typewriters during that time period, even if it does not jive with Fesenkov Krinov SA catalog. gary On Mar 16, 2011, at 4:01 AM, Michael Johnson wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_16_2011.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011
Congratulations Dr Mignon on your acquisition of a beautiful specimen of Sikhote Alin. The label I would interpret as 0098 because the lower loop of the number 8 type is usually larger than the upper one in typewriters during that time period, even if it does not jive with I concur with your argument, Gary! It also makes sense on the grounds that the label is placed on the meteorite in such a way that you can read the number more comfortably this way than turning the meteorite and reading the number the other way around... But your argument with loopsizes for the 8 is still stronger! :-) Alex __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011
Dear Rob, thank you so so much for sharing these photographs as well as these 2001 posts! Very informative. Gary, you are right, must be #0098 then! I will do more research and update my S-A page accordingly (http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/met_sikhotealin.html) Arnaud The Tricottet Collection (Historic Minerals, Fossils Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com Facebook: The Tricottet Collection Twitter: TricottetColl From: rlens...@planet.nl To: tricottetc...@live.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: FW: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:30:19 +0100 Hi Arnaud (and List), The label talk reminded me of a Sikhote Alin Label discussion we had on this List about 10 years ago (how time flies...) As the List archives only go back to 2004, I added two of the Emails below. I think they contain information that may be of interest to you. Not all of the links in there are working, but I reloaded mine. Here are some more photos of labeled S-A's, I collected back then (the photos!). Don't remember the sources. I hope the owners will forgive me posting without asking permission: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote02_label.jpg http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote03_label.jpg http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote04_label.jpg Best regards, Rob Lenssen PS: For those interested, here are some more recent photos of my best Sikhote Alin: http://www.asteroidchippings.com/collection_links/Sikhote_Alin_473g.html -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens The Tricottet Collection Verzonden: woensdag 16 maart 2011 16:22 Aan: Gary F; Michael Johnson CC: MeteoriteList Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011 First thank you all for your nice comments. Gary, I thought the same thing but I would not trust their typewriters. You can see for example that they used the letter I instead of the number 1 for that specimen: http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/img/img_met/1-5_SikhoteAlin_SAS.jpg Or maybe the 8 is stretched because of the soft sticker. Moreover, it seems that all early numbers are very large masses. Best regards, Arnaud The Tricottet Collection (Historic Minerals, Fossils Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com Facebook: The Tricottet Collection Twitter: TricottetColl -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens geok...@notkin.net Verzonden: zondag 4 november 2001 5:19 Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Numbering of Meteorites + Krinov Book [long] Dear Dave, Rob, Steve, and List: I'd like to return to the thread from a few days back, when Dave Harris, Rob Lenssen, Steve Schoner and I were discussing labels on some old collection Sikhote-Alins. Collection numbers interest me, so I've done a bit more research over the past few days. Just to recap: Dave and I both recently acquired nice, uncleaned and slightly rusted Sikhotes from Rob Wesel (thanks Rob). They carry a white gauze label, with four-digit typewritten collection numbers. Steve Schoner was quite certain these are Russian National Academy of Sciences numbers, and Rob provided some useful info and photos, and also had a labelling question (I think I have your answer, Rob, see below). However, the actual numbers on our specimens don't match Krinov's numbers, so there was some doubt. First off, Rob, in style the labels do appear to match the photos you supplied here: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA1.jpg and here: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA2.jpg I find it odd that specimens with really low numbers, like the one in Rob's photo 0067, and mine 0112, were evidently not collected during the first expedition to Sikhote-Alin, due to the light coating of rust. You would expect the really low numbers to have been from the earliest expedition (and therefore to be in nearly pristine condition), but I suppose they could have been numbered out of order at a later date -- back in Moscow or St. Petersburg. Or maybe they were just left outside in an old crate somewhere : ) Anyway, I have to agree with Steve S., and I think I've found proof that these are official Russian labels. Earlier this year, I had the good fortune to acquire a signed copy of Krinov's book about Tunguska and Sikhote-Alin. This book used to belong to Dr. Elbert King, and I ended up with it thanks to Steve Arnold of I.M.B. The book is (obviously) in Russian and, as far as I know, has unfortunately never been translated into English. My very basic Russian is not up to the task. The title reads (phonetically) Zhelezny Dozhd, and the cover is a two-color reprint of the famous Sikhote-Alin stamp
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011
Quite a good example of an internet-meteoritefriends-connection. People who intelligently advance the knowledge about something quite special... 0098 greetings to Rob, Gary, Arnaud, and the rest of the gang! :-) Alex Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:10:14 + Von: The Tricottet Collection tricottetc...@live.com An: rlens...@planet.nl, MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011 Dear Rob, thank you so so much for sharing these photographs as well as these 2001 posts! Very informative. Gary, you are right, must be #0098 then! I will do more research and update my S-A page accordingly (http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/met_sikhotealin.html) Arnaud The Tricottet Collection (Historic Minerals, Fossils Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com Facebook: The Tricottet Collection Twitter: TricottetColl From: rlens...@planet.nl To: tricottetc...@live.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: FW: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:30:19 +0100 Hi Arnaud (and List), The label talk reminded me of a Sikhote Alin Label discussion we had on this List about 10 years ago (how time flies...) As the List archives only go back to 2004, I added two of the Emails below. I think they contain information that may be of interest to you. Not all of the links in there are working, but I reloaded mine. Here are some more photos of labeled S-A's, I collected back then (the photos!). Don't remember the sources. I hope the owners will forgive me posting without asking permission: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote02_label.jpg http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote03_label.jpg http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote04_label.jpg Best regards, Rob Lenssen PS: For those interested, here are some more recent photos of my best Sikhote Alin: http://www.asteroidchippings.com/collection_links/Sikhote_Alin_473g.html -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens The Tricottet Collection Verzonden: woensdag 16 maart 2011 16:22 Aan: Gary F; Michael Johnson CC: MeteoriteList Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011 First thank you all for your nice comments. Gary, I thought the same thing but I would not trust their typewriters. You can see for example that they used the letter I instead of the number 1 for that specimen: http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/img/img_met/1-5_SikhoteAlin_SAS.jpg Or maybe the 8 is stretched because of the soft sticker. Moreover, it seems that all early numbers are very large masses. Best regards, Arnaud The Tricottet Collection (Historic Minerals, Fossils Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com Facebook: The Tricottet Collection Twitter: TricottetColl -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens geok...@notkin.net Verzonden: zondag 4 november 2001 5:19 Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Numbering of Meteorites + Krinov Book [long] Dear Dave, Rob, Steve, and List: I'd like to return to the thread from a few days back, when Dave Harris, Rob Lenssen, Steve Schoner and I were discussing labels on some old collection Sikhote-Alins. Collection numbers interest me, so I've done a bit more research over the past few days. Just to recap: Dave and I both recently acquired nice, uncleaned and slightly rusted Sikhotes from Rob Wesel (thanks Rob). They carry a white gauze label, with four-digit typewritten collection numbers. Steve Schoner was quite certain these are Russian National Academy of Sciences numbers, and Rob provided some useful info and photos, and also had a labelling question (I think I have your answer, Rob, see below). However, the actual numbers on our specimens don't match Krinov's numbers, so there was some doubt. First off, Rob, in style the labels do appear to match the photos you supplied here: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA1.jpg and here: http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA2.jpg I find it odd that specimens with really low numbers, like the one in Rob's photo 0067, and mine 0112, were evidently not collected during the first expedition to Sikhote-Alin, due to the light coating of rust. You would expect the really low numbers to have been from the earliest expedition (and therefore to be in nearly pristine condition), but I suppose they could have been numbered out of order at a later date -- back in Moscow or St. Petersburg. Or maybe they were just left
