[meteorite-list] Rosetta in Ensisheim
Hi Dave, Adam, Peter, Norbert, Marcin, list Discussing Rosetta or not Rosetta in 2 weeks from now in Ensisheim is just a great sugestion, Dave! I suggest Norbert brings the best of the best of his DHO 908 representatives. I'll bring my own 2.86 g complete slice that I traded with Norbert in 2003 (80% brown, 20% black lithology). My mostly rewarded trade ever made, for sure! And I note having added his nickname Rosetta Stone in my collection catalog Dave, I am very glad to see you again this year among us! Yes, a mini-beer party can by all means help such a discussion. Norbert should bring his best Rosetta and all its backgrounds, I'll bring my trade, Dave some ideas for debate. Marcin ? You bring (Polish ?) beer ! I am sure Peter is willing to compete with some obscure Swiss lager But never mind, I'll offer the first Meteor round! Would just be wonderful if Adam could make it this year !... Tomorrow, I'll send the latest Ensisheim news. Sorry for my recent silence (was again away for 8 days) but the great news is that our poor old university server was finally disconnected forever and thrown into the garbage can! With the new one (seems to work perfectly) I'll be able to reply many of your recent messages, at least those that did not follow the old server to the very same trash... Zelimir NB: I note that the tkw for Dho 908 was (in 2003) of 245.46 grams (9 stones). Is that still true Norbert ? A 10:24 04/06/2007 -0700, Dave Schultz a écrit : Sorry to intrude on your little discussion..., but me thinks that this topic should be discussed properly over a few beers in Ensisheim, although that might lead to more discussions! :) Dave ...sorry, should be DHOFAR 908, not NWA! Peter Peter Marmet wrote: Hello Norbert, Adam, Marcin and All, it seems I didn't make myself very clear. I have absolutely nothing against the term: This one is kind of a Rosetta Stone for this and this...or some sort of a Missing Link...or some kind of a Smoking Gun for...but what makes me feel similar as Marcin, was the following: The finders sold their NWA 908 for years under the name NWA 908...suddenly NWA 908 is THE(!) Rosetta Stone which means THE ONE AND ONLY ...ok, the main reason why I wrote this e-mail was to get more info about this rather special / stunning / fantastic / one of it's kind lithology story! ... Adam wrote: that displays two (2) lithologies ...Norbert wrote: displaying three (3) distinct lithologies Very interested to hear more about this unique meteorite... not very keen to hear more about what names are legal / honest / ethical and which are not...sorry, if I started this debate! Peter Norbert Classen wrote: Dear Marcin, I didn't use that term for marketing reasons, and it is not a synonym for Dhofar 908 in general but I just used it for the 81g main mass of Dhofar 908, displaying three distinct lithologies linking previous finds together. That's why I called it a Rosetta stone. Back in 2003 virtually nobody was willing to believe that e.g. Dhofar 489, and Dhofar 305 did belong to one and the same (ancient) fall. That's not the same thing as calling it Donald Duck, it's a linguistic ploy to express something of scientific meaning... Do you think Baker and Bizzaro used their analogy as a marketing ploy, or just because the liked the funny name? BTW, as to my knowledge neither Adam nor I did use the Rosetta stone analogy without making it very clear that we were talking about Dhofar 908, not in general, but in respect to a certain stone/fragment of Dhofar 908, and its special history/properties. And, as for the monetary value of certain specimens: do you think that a specimen of, let's say normal Zagami will demand the same resale price as a specimen with dual lithologies, including the DML (dark mottled lithology) of Zagami? You are correct, the meteorite will stay the same, but I fear you won't get the latter one, cheap. And: if you know of a source who sells dual-lith Zagami at the price of normal Zagami, just give me a call :-) My 3 lithologies, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von PolandMET Gesendet: Montag, 4. Juni 2007 00:01 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta Stone Analogy Dear list members. Every meteorite is special. For me is better to call meteorite with his official name even if this is ugly NWA 999 name, than create some unreal marketing names that have nothing to do with meteorites. I see only one reason for this, better sales becouse of better name. If we call it Rosetta Stone, Louis Michelle or Donald Duck or Shrek, meteorite will stay the same and not become more
Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta in Ensisheim
Hello Zelimir and All, Zelimir Gabelica wrote: I am sure Peter is willing to compete with some obscure Swiss lager Well, we have nice chocolate, nice cheese...but beer...well, I guess we leave brewing beer to Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium and the wine making to the friendly people in the Alsace region:-) Peter __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rosetta in Ensisheim
Hi Dave, Adam, Peter, Norbert, Marcin, list Discussing Rosetta or not Rosetta in 2 weeks from now in Ensisheim is just a great sugestion, Dave! I suggest Norbert brings the best of the best of his DHO 908 representatives. I'll bring my own 2.86 g complete slice that I traded with Norbert in 2003 (80% brown, 20% black lithology). My mostly rewarded trade ever made, for sure! And I note having added his nickname Rosetta Stone in my collection catalog Dave, I am very glad to see you again this year among us! Yes, a mini-beer party can by all means help such a discussion. Norbert should bring his best Rosetta and all its backgrounds, I'll bring my trade, Dave some ideas for debate. Marcin ? You bring (Polish ?) beer ! I am sure Peter is willing to compete with some obscure Swiss lager But never mind, I'll offer the first Meteor round! Would just be wonderful if Adam could make it this year !... Tomorrow, I'll send the latest Ensisheim news. Sorry for my recent silence (was again away for 8 days) but the great news is that our poor old university server was finally disconnected forever and thrown into the garbage can! With the new one (seems to work perfectly) I'll be able to reply many of your recent messages, at least those that did not follow the old server to the very same trash... Zelimir NB: I note that the tkw for Dho 908 was (in 2003) of 245.46 grams (9 stones). Is that still true Norbert ? A 10:24 04/06/2007 -0700, Dave Schultz a écrit : Sorry to intrude on your little discussion..., but me thinks that this topic should be discussed properly over a few beers in Ensisheim, although that might lead to more discussions! :) Dave ...sorry, should be DHOFAR 908, not NWA! Peter Peter Marmet wrote: Hello Norbert, Adam, Marcin and All, it seems I didn't make myself very clear. I have absolutely nothing against the term: This one is kind of a Rosetta Stone for this and this...or some sort of a Missing Link...or some kind of a Smoking Gun for...but what makes me feel similar as Marcin, was the following: The finders sold their NWA 908 for years under the name NWA 908...suddenly NWA 908 is THE(!) Rosetta Stone which means THE ONE AND ONLY ...ok, the main reason why I wrote this e-mail was to get more info about this rather special / stunning / fantastic / one of it's kind lithology story! ... Adam wrote: that displays two (2) lithologies ...Norbert wrote: displaying three (3) distinct lithologies Very interested to hear more about this unique meteorite... not very keen to hear more about what names are legal / honest / ethical and which are not...sorry, if I started this debate! Peter Norbert Classen wrote: Dear Marcin, I didn't use that term for marketing reasons, and it is not a synonym for Dhofar 908 in general but I just used it for the 81g main mass of Dhofar 908, displaying three distinct lithologies linking previous finds together. That's why I called it a Rosetta stone. Back in 2003 virtually nobody was willing to believe that e.g. Dhofar 489, and Dhofar 305 did belong to one and the same (ancient) fall. That's not the same thing as calling it Donald Duck, it's a linguistic ploy to express something of scientific meaning... Do you think Baker and Bizzaro used their analogy as a marketing ploy, or just because the liked the funny name? BTW, as to my knowledge neither Adam nor I did use the Rosetta stone analogy without making it very clear that we were talking about Dhofar 908, not in general, but in respect to a certain stone/fragment of Dhofar 908, and its special history/properties. And, as for the monetary value of certain specimens: do you think that a specimen of, let's say normal Zagami will demand the same resale price as a specimen with dual lithologies, including the DML (dark mottled lithology) of Zagami? You are correct, the meteorite will stay the same, but I fear you won't get the latter one, cheap. And: if you know of a source who sells dual-lith Zagami at the price of normal Zagami, just give me a call :-) My 3 lithologies, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von PolandMET Gesendet: Montag, 4. Juni 2007 00:01 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta Stone Analogy Dear list members. Every meteorite is special. For me is better to call meteorite with his official name even if this is ugly NWA 999 name, than create some unreal marketing names that have nothing to do with meteorites. I see only one reason for this, better sales becouse of better name. If we call it Rosetta Stone, Louis Michelle or Donald Duck or Shrek, meteorite will stay the same and not become more
