[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin 1000+gr (AD)
Howdy List! My first ever ad message involves helping a friend part with his long held Sikhote Alin, which he describes as just over 1000 grams. (He may not have a scale that goes past that limit.) It is quite nice, showing orientation, some external Thompson Structure features and what seems to be some natural patina. Please email me off List so I can provide photos. He’s asking $4/gr. -Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net__ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Sphere Rough Cut Offs - 330 Grams
I have 330 grams of pieces that were cut from my Sphere rough when Dmitry worked it. Derek has authorized me to sell them as a whole lot for $1 per gram or $330 These are triangular and trapezoidal pieces that could turn a decent profit if you have the equipment to polish and etch them If interested send an email to bobad...@ec.rr.com __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Iron Meteorite Polished 261 Gram End Cut
This is interesting end cut that is etched on 5 surfaces It displays well from any angle and it is approximately 2.95” wide by 2.90” tall and the base is 1.24” wide at the bottom and tapers to the top It weighs 261 grams and the etch looks a lot better in person, it is very hard to capture it with digital images I am asking $783 plus shipping If interested in this piece send an email to bobad...@ec.rr.com Please include the following Forum ID Full Name PayPal email Country Item you want Thanks http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Sikhote%20Alin/SA%20261%20Gram%20End%20Cut%20001_zpstez53keq.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Sikhote%20Alin/SA%20261%20Gram%20End%20Cut%2%20B_zpsgswcxjjd.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Sikhote%20Alin/SA%20261%20Gram%20End%20Cut%2%20C_zpswq64isww.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Sikhote%20Alin/SA%20261%20Gram%20End%20Cut%2%20D_zpspuqqa4gp.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Sikhote%20Alin/SA%20261%20Gram%20End%20Cut%20002_zpsj4w6tjcx.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Sikhote%20Alin/SA%20261%20Gram%20End%20Cut%20003_zpsjg3a2uvb.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Sikhote%20Alin/SA%20261%20Gram%20End%20Cut%20004_zps0plapuxx.jpg http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Sikhote%20Alin/SA%20261%20Gram%20End%20Cut%20005_zps92emikbp.jpg __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin for sale, anyone?
Dear List, I'm still looking for a nice, thumbprinted Sikhote Alin preferably out of an old collection with the fusion crust still intact, somewhere around 700 grams. Do let me know if you've got one for sale, and if it's what I'm looking for I would like to buy it. Many thanks, El __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin with label, question
Hello List Members Do anyone have information about museum numbers of Sikhote Alin from Academy of Science, Moscow, Russia (this is past name now it is Russian Academy of Science?) Here is photo of specimen and label (most of people recognize this type of label's) http://www.collectingmeteorites.com/sikhote-alin-iib-589g-natural-preserved-individual-came-form-ras-museum/ My email illae...@gmail.com for any help thanks a lot! With best regards Tomasz Jakubowski -- www.collectingmeteorites.com PTM, IMCA, MetSoc Managing Editor meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin meteorite wanted 3k to 12k
Hello List, Sorry if this turns out to be a second post. I'm looking for a sikhote alin 3 to 12 kilos please sent me a price and picture off list. I'm looking for several this size. Thank You, Tim Heitz Sent from part of the smartphone revolution __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin
Dear List, Does anyone have a very aesthetic, nicely regmaglypted Sikhote Alin they'd like to sell? Please let me know off list. Thanks, El __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin 475g
Dear List, Does anyone happen to know in whose collection this particular example of the Sikhote Alin 475g individual resides now? It was sold by catchafallingstar.com some time ago and here is the link to pictures still on the website: http://www.catchafallingstar.com/sa475.htm Please PM me, offlist if you have any info on this piece. Thanks very much. El __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico
WATCH OUT !! Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico http://www.meteorite-times.com/whats-new/sikhote-alin-meteorite-stolen-from-the-university-of-new-mexico/ One of our museum display specimens was stolen out of its case — most likely just before Christmas break, during opening hours. The specimen is a “Sikhote Alin” weighing 9490 grams. I would like to alert the meteorite collector community to be on the look-out for this specimen, it is unique and easily identifiable as our property. Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico
Hi, I am confused, the sign under the Sikhote reads Hexahedrite but isn't Sikhote Alin a coarsest octahedrite? http://www.meteorite-times.com/whats-new/sikhote-alin-meteorite-stolen-from-the-university-of-new-mexico/ On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:19 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: WATCH OUT !! Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico One of our museum display specimens was stolen out of its case — most likely just before Christmas break, during opening hours. The specimen is a “Sikhote Alin” weighing 9490 grams. I would like to alert the meteorite collector community to be on the look-out for this specimen, it is unique and easily identifiable as our property. Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico
Hi Ruben, No reason to be confused! You're right ... it is a typo. Cheers, Bernd __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico
That is disgusting. I hope they find the thief and give him the Furio treatment. If you have seen the Sopranos, you know what that is. LOL And Ruben is right, I think. Sikhote is a IIAB - coarse octahedrite. Unless some specimens were re-crystallized by heat and are now classified as hexahedrites? Best regards, MikeG PS - ask everyone who had access to the building (if keys were used) to take a polygraph. if they refuse, break their ankles or a knee-cap. I bet the meteorite gets turned in quick. On 1/2/12, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am confused, the sign under the Sikhote reads Hexahedrite but isn't Sikhote Alin a coarsest octahedrite? http://www.meteorite-times.com/whats-new/sikhote-alin-meteorite-stolen-from-the-university-of-new-mexico/ On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:19 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: WATCH OUT !! Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico One of our museum display specimens was stolen out of its case — most likely just before Christmas break, during opening hours. The specimen is a “Sikhote Alin” weighing 9490 grams. I would like to alert the meteorite collector community to be on the look-out for this specimen, it is unique and easily identifiable as our property. Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- * Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone *** __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico
Bernd, you wrote this almost 4 years ago: Eduardo wrote: Meteor Crater... exhibition... a Sikhote Alin...labeled as Hexahedrite. Hello Eduardo, Anne, and List, That employee was not too far off target, ... only problem his source of information is outdated. His reference was probably the, ...roll of drums, the Third Edition of the Catalogue of Meteorites (1966), page 449: Sikhote-Alin, Eastern Siberia... Iron. Granular hexahedrite, or coarsest octahedrite (4.9 mm)...The so-called craters are mostly only impact holes, and the fall appears to be a granular hexahedrite rather than an octahedrite (L. LaPaz, Popular Astronomy, Northfield, Minnesota, 1949, vol. 57, p. 88). Bernd Martin Von: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico Datum: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:29:16 +0100 Hi Ruben, No reason to be confused! You're right ... it is a typo. Cheers, Bernd __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico
Martin kindly wrote: Bernd, you wrote this almost 4 years ago: Eduardo wrote:...a Sikhote Alin...labeled as Hexahedrite. ... which clearly demonstrates the Internet doesn't forget but I do ;-) Cheers, Bernd __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico
Hi guys I think this is true, but really don't know if there is some more subtile catch like some completely arbitrary distance someone measured somewhere: In the conditons of formation, even though Sikhote is classified as an octahedrite, most of the small specimens do not exhibit patterns and are just small chunks of a single kamacite crystals, right? So whatever the main mass is called, really doesn't matter - these smaller ones are chemically hexahedrites. Because all a hexahedrite is - is a fragment of a kamacite crystal. In fact, some hexahedrites between 5-6% nickel are probably octahedrites even by the TKW accounting method, only, the interface wasn't discovered during classification. Similar to the siderite vs. pallasite discoveries of late. (In the case of the larger specimen that was labeled, probably it is larfe enough to contain a crystal interface, so best to call it as mentioned coarsest octahedrite.) kindest wishes Doug (surviving the change of year, but barely!) -Original Message- From: Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 11:06 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico Martin kindly wrote: Bernd, you wrote this almost 4 years ago: Eduardo wrote:...a Sikhote Alin...labeled as Hexahedrite. ... which clearly demonstrates the Internet doesn't forget but I do ;-) Cheers, Bernd __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico
kindest wishes Doug (surviving the change of year, but barely!) DeLeón, Pepe's y Joe's, Kahlúa, Tepaches, Margaritas or some of 'Doug's Homebrew' ?;-) Martin Von: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com An: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico Datum: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:38:29 +0100 Hi guys I think this is true, but really don't know if there is some more subtile catch like some completely arbitrary distance someone measured somewhere: In the conditons of formation, even though Sikhote is classified as an octahedrite, most of the small specimens do not exhibit patterns and are just small chunks of a single kamacite crystals, right? So whatever the main mass is called, really doesn't matter - these smaller ones are chemically hexahedrites. Because all a hexahedrite is - is a fragment of a kamacite crystal. In fact, some hexahedrites between 5-6% nickel are probably octahedrites even by the TKW accounting method, only, the interface wasn't discovered during classification. Similar to the siderite vs. pallasite discoveries of late. (In the case of the larger specimen that was labeled, probably it is larfe enough to contain a crystal interface, so best to call it as mentioned coarsest octahedrite.) kindest wishes Doug (surviving the change of year, but barely!) -Original Message- From: Bernd V. Pauli To: Meteorite-list Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 11:06 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Meteorite Stolen from the University of New Mexico Martin kindly wrote: Bernd, you wrote this almost 4 years ago: Eduardo wrote:...a Sikhote Alin...labeled as Hexahedrite. ... which clearly demonstrates the Internet doesn't forget but I do ;-) Cheers, Bernd __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Well, Not EXACTLY: In the US, the Enlish word, Value is most often translated To mean what is the dollar amount someone will pay (the Free Enterprise system is based on what Anthropologists refer to as negative exchange - each side is attempting to get the better Deal in an interaction). In such a system, DOLLAR value is strictly What one will pay. (this should NOT be confused with what one Individual pays at an auction - which can be very much lower or Very much higher than the overall market. - try to sell the Claxton Mailbox at the Tucson Show for $83K - yet two different buyers Valued it so at one particular time at one event (very most likely Not meteorite collectors - at least not prior to the auction - if they Were, they were beginners with staggering amounts of wealth - it Could even have been a personal challenge between them - a delight For any seller at an auction - what does it matter to an actor or Other public figure earning over $10Mil/yr to spend such money) - But that does not a market make - however, on that day, in that Context, that is exactly what that mailbox was worth. However, we often forget that true value is the importance We, ourselves place on an item, relationship, etc. Personally, I am staggered at the cost of even modestly status Cars and women's shoes. I certainly do not value them like many, Many others. The point is, everything has a value ONLY in the eye of the Beholder - a market is when many have a similar eye regarding Given items. But I suppose this is all clearly understood, and just not spoken. Best wishes, Michael on 4/11/08 4:30 PM, Walter Branch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, Al The true value IS what someone wants to pay :-) How could it be otherwise? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Greetings, This is the fourth time I have tried to post this message. I am seeking help to determine a value for a 20.3 kg Sikhote Alin. I need what dealers or collectors feel would be the true retail value of a super nice structured, un-rusted specimen. I want a true value and not what someone wants to pay. Any help appreciated. AL __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably.. And never regret anything that made you smile. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Hi Michael and all, The value for the 20.3 kg Sikhote-Alin that I was asked to provide a value for (what dollar amount) ended up being $21,400.00. This wasn't based on my estimate but rather I gathered facts and comments from our group and some other collectors who were willing to give me an idea of the value of this specimen based on photos I provided as well as my comments on the condition of the specimen. I turned this over to a license appraiser who used all the facts that were sent to me to come up with some sort of an idea. Thanks to everyone who helped me with their ideas on the market value!! Here were some statistics used. Average price.$22,534.00 Minus high price.$19,523.00 Minus low and high price.$21,194.00 My suggested value$18,000.00 Apprasers true value...$21,400.00 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Al, there is no possible way to give a true value without photos. Your idea of nice, no rust, etc may not be my idea of that. Just like the endless oriented meteorites on ebay, it seems that any meteorite with a round edge is oriented these days! It could be worth from ~$6000 to $25000. Michael Farmer --- Dave Gheesling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS - I realize this is not always what we want to hear, but it is the reality of (and part of the fun and excitement of) such a young marketplace. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Branch Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:30 PM To: AL Mitterling; Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Uh, Al The true value IS what someone wants to pay :-) How could it be otherwise? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Greetings, This is the fourth time I have tried to post this message. I am seeking help to determine a value for a 20.3 kg Sikhote Alin. I need what dealers or collectors feel would be the true retail value of a super nice structured, un-rusted specimen. I want a true value and not what someone wants to pay. Any help appreciated. AL __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Shrapnel
Apologies if this is a re-post. The first doesn't appear to have been sent... Greetings, all, While we're on Sikhote-Alin's; minus small impact craters and flow lines, is there an obvious indicator(s) separating entry shrapnel from impact shrapnel? Sharper edges? Shinier surface? I'd settle for a link with the information, which has so far eluded me. Cheers,Pete _ Turn every day into $1000. Learn more at SignInAndWIN.ca http://g.msn.ca/ca55/213 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Greetings, This is the fourth time I have tried to post this message. I am seeking help to determine a value for a 20.3 kg Sikhote Alin. I need what dealers or collectors feel would be the true retail value of a super nice structured, un-rusted specimen. I want a true value and not what someone wants to pay. Any help appreciated. AL __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Uh, Al The true value IS what someone wants to pay :-) How could it be otherwise? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Greetings, This is the fourth time I have tried to post this message. I am seeking help to determine a value for a 20.3 kg Sikhote Alin. I need what dealers or collectors feel would be the true retail value of a super nice structured, un-rusted specimen. I want a true value and not what someone wants to pay. Any help appreciated. AL __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Walter, Al All, Absolutely on the money, Walter (pun intended). Replace someone with the market and it is dead on, given that the someone has to be moved to the other end of the equation since true value is also in part a function of what the owner is willing to accept in trade. In some cases there are benchmarks to compare against, but at the end of the day every specimen and case is at least slightly different -- particularly with larger specimens for which there is a narrower potential market. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Branch Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:30 PM To: AL Mitterling; Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Uh, Al The true value IS what someone wants to pay :-) How could it be otherwise? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Greetings, This is the fourth time I have tried to post this message. I am seeking help to determine a value for a 20.3 kg Sikhote Alin. I need what dealers or collectors feel would be the true retail value of a super nice structured, un-rusted specimen. I want a true value and not what someone wants to pay. Any help appreciated. AL __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
PS - I realize this is not always what we want to hear, but it is the reality of (and part of the fun and excitement of) such a young marketplace. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Branch Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:30 PM To: AL Mitterling; Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Uh, Al The true value IS what someone wants to pay :-) How could it be otherwise? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Greetings, This is the fourth time I have tried to post this message. I am seeking help to determine a value for a 20.3 kg Sikhote Alin. I need what dealers or collectors feel would be the true retail value of a super nice structured, un-rusted specimen. I want a true value and not what someone wants to pay. Any help appreciated. AL __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Actually, I'd like to amend my statement. The true value of something (anything) occurs when a KNOWLEDGEABLE seller and a KNOWLEDGEABLE buyer agree upon a price. Now, gotta go make some spaghetti. -Walter - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Uh, Al The true value IS what someone wants to pay :-) How could it be otherwise? -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Greetings, This is the fourth time I have tried to post this message. I am seeking help to determine a value for a 20.3 kg Sikhote Alin. I need what dealers or collectors feel would be the true retail value of a super nice structured, un-rusted specimen. I want a true value and not what someone wants to pay. Any help appreciated. AL __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Hi Al, it totally depends on the specimen itself. How the shape is, how sculptured it is, whether it's cleaned down to high-gloss metal or of a nicer patina. At least so far we can go, to know, that the times, where regmaglypted Sikhotes were sold at a standard price of 300$/kg are over for 2 years or so. And meanwhile large specimens are rare. Of course it depends also on, in which surroundings you'll sell. Note the results of the known auction houses last year, people not involved in meteorites, will certainly pay a higher price for aesthetic irons than a meteorite collector, who maybe would pay 500-600$/kg for a very good Sikhote of that size? ...at least these my not so sophisticated guesses. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von AL Mitterling Gesendet: Samstag, 12. April 2008 01:26 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help Greetings, This is the fourth time I have tried to post this message. I am seeking help to determine a value for a 20.3 kg Sikhote Alin. I need what dealers or collectors feel would be the true retail value of a super nice structured, un-rusted specimen. I want a true value and not what someone wants to pay. Any help appreciated. AL __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Greetings, First thanks for all your comments so far. I didn't mean to make this such a slippery slope issue but rather just a ball park idea of what most people think such a specimen is worth on a retail market. I agree it is had to make such an assessment without seeing the item first. On a popular website that sell sikhote Alins, there is a 12,500 kg specimen that is very similar to the one I mention. Asking price for that piece is $18,000. So I can assume that a 20 kg specimen might be worth $25,000 to $29,000 if it is equally ascetically pleasing to the eye. Or is that too high a price?? --AL Mitterling __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:09:24 -0400, you wrote: On a popular website that sell sikhote Alins, there is a 12,500 kg specimen that is very similar to the one I mention. Asking price for that piece is $18,000. Okay, I don't know about everyone else, but I want to see that 12,500 kg SA. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
Greetings, 12,500 kg specimen should read 12.5 kg specimen for $18,000. Thanks Darren for pointing out my error. --AL __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Help
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:04:28 -0400, you wrote: Greetings, 12,500 kg specimen should read 12.5 kg specimen for $18,000. Thanks Darren for pointing out my error. I'm sure everybody realized that, I was just jerking your chain. :-) However, on a more serious note, how long has that SA been offered for $18,000? If a piece has been sitting on a web site for years for a certain price, and hasn't sold, that is a pretty good sign that nobody (who is looking) is willing to pay that price. The meteorites that stay and stay and stay are the ones that are priced too high. The ones you DON'T see are the ones that sold. :-) It is like those copies of Find a Falling Star listed for over $100 on Amazon-- just because it is LISTED at that price doesn't mean that someone is PAYING that price (and the ones offered cheaper-- are already gone). So, unless it was listed recently, maybe that $18,000 12.5 kilo SA is still there because nobody is willing to pay $18,000 for the 12.5 kilo SA. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin Bullet
Check out this little oriented Sikhote bullet. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=140211035108 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote Alin Hexahedrite (?) Revisited
Eduardo wrote: Meteor Crater... exhibition... a Sikhote Alin...labeled as Hexahedrite. Hello Eduardo, Anne, and List, That employee was not too far off target, ... only problem his source of information is outdated. His reference was probably the, ...roll of drums, the Third Edition of the Catalogue of Meteorites (1966), page 449: Sikhote-Alin, Eastern Siberia... Iron. Granular hexahedrite, or coarsest octahedrite (4.9 mm)...The so-called craters are mostly only impact holes, and the fall appears to be a granular hexahedrite rather than an octahedrite (L. LaPaz, Popular Astronomy, Northfield, Minnesota, 1949, vol. 57, p. 88). Best wishes, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote alin at Meteor Crater: Hexahedrite
Hi After Tucson show, I stop by the Meteor Crater. In the exhibition there is a display with a few iron meteorites which include a Sikhote alin which is labeled as Hexahedrite. I talked with a man from there and I pointed the mistake. He told me that the display was there for several years. Anyone realized about this? I did a search on the web and found another place listing it as Hexahedrite: http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/images/sikhote-alin.htm maybe was classified before as an Hexahedrite? Eduardo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote alin at Meteor Crater: Hexahedrite
In a message dated 2/28/2008 2:16:07 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi After Tucson show, I stop by the Meteor Crater. In the exhibition there is a display with a few iron meteorites which include a Sikhote alin which is labeled as Hexahedrite. I talked with a man from there and I pointed the mistake. He told me that the display was there for several years. Anyone realized about this? Eduardo - Hello Eduardo, It was probably the same employee who told one of my customers that All meteorites were radioactive. My customer had a good laugh. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin web site updated
Dear list members, I have updated and made a few changes to my Sikhote-Alin web site: http://www.sikhote-alin.org Hope you enjoy! __ Coming soon! SIKHOTE-ALIN MUSEUM A web site with sikhote-alin specimens from collectors around the world! Sincerely, Michael Johnson SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update
G'day all, I received a very interesting email today from someone who had read through my Sikhote-Alin Impact Pit page. They sent me a couple of photographs of a large gun on Corregidor Island, Philippines which was damaged from a WW2 bomb. The resulting damage is unmistakably similar to the pits found on some SA's. The pics are at the bottom of this page: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/impactpits.html Comments welcome. Does anyone know what type/size of gun this is? Cheers, Jeff __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update
Hi, Jeff, This is a coastal defense gun, intended to be used against approaching naval forces. The longest-range coastal pieces were the two 12-inch guns of Batteries Hearn and Smith, with a horizontal range of 29,000 yards. Although capable of an all around traverse, these guns, due to their flat trajectories, were not effective for use against targets on Bataan, so that they could not be used against the Japanese after they had occupied it! The gun in your photo is one of those two guns, but I can't say whether it was Battery Hearn or Battery Smith. The other 12-inch Batteries were mortars rather than long-range guns. They brought the most destruction on Japanese positions during the attempted landings on the southwest coast of Bataan late in January to the middle of February, 1942. These mortars were silenced by enemy shelling in May, 1942. Battery Geary was a battery of six 13-ton, 12-inch mortars. This battery, when pinpointed by the Japanese, was subjected to heavy shelling. One direct hit by a 240 mm shell, which detonated the magazines of this Battery in May 1942, proved to be the most crippling shot during the entire siege of Corregidor. This shelling tossed the mortars around, one to a distance of 150 yards, another was blown through three feet of reinforced concrete wall into the adjoining powder magazine of Battery Crockett. Large chunks of steel were blown as far as the Malinta Tunnel, while 27 of the battery crew were killed instantly. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update G'day all, I received a very interesting email today from someone who had read through my Sikhote-Alin Impact Pit page. They sent me a couple of photographs of a large gun on Corregidor Island, Philippines which was damaged from a WW2 bomb. The resulting damage is unmistakably similar to the pits found on some SA's. The pics are at the bottom of this page: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/impactpits.html Comments welcome. Does anyone know what type/size of gun this is? Cheers, Jeff __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update
Jeff, Gun-buff's, G'Mornin' It's an artillery M-series M1895 (M1895M1A4) 305mm (12-inch) Coastal Defense Gun (made in about 1895) on an M1917 Barbette Carriage. The big gun can fire a 900 pound (409 kg) nicely oriented shell over 16 miles (26.5 km) range through the atmosphere at sea level. At least part of the technical manual is apparently actively available on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140091777488 These aptly named batteries of big guns and mortars (Crockett, but not Davy:-), etc.) were the ones that the Americans held out with for a month in an Alamo-like encounter with the Japanese, in which that now long ago inspiring heroic effort on this island with the sacrifices protected Ozitrailia from invasion. If it were not so nicely an oriented shell ... I doubt it would make it 5 miles. That's more than 10 extra miles out of orientation ... though a little heavier than the Venus stone ... More information on the battle is available at: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Corregidoraction=editsection=7 And here is the picture of the original gun model, though sandblasted repainted spruced up now theme park style gun to accompany the wiki text which can be compared to Jeff's reader's picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_12_Inch_Gun.jpg There were a pair of these M1895 guns on these carriages according to the website corregidor.org, in addition to other recessed M1895's of the same caliber, many of which are tourist attractions there today. Originally the pair on carriages was called the Smith Brothers, named after the Smith Brothers' cough drops, and they were fondly known as Pat and Pending. (But later one was named Hearn, and the humor was lost. C. C. Hearn, a West Point Graduate and Naval Coastal defenses expert invented a plotting board and a super accurate range finder which he gave to the government rather than patenting). And we think WE live in violent times! Best health, Doug From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Impact Pits - Interesting Update G'day all, I received a very interesting email today from someone who had read through my Sikhote-Alin Impact Pit page. They sent me a couple of photographs of a large gun on Corregidor Island, Philippines which was damaged from a WW2 bomb. The resulting damage is unmistakably similar to the pits found on some SA's. The pics are at the bottom of this page: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/impactpits.html Comments welcome. Does anyone know what type/size of gun this is? Cheers, Jeff __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 28, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Monday, February 26, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 27, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Sunday, February 25, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Saturday, February 24, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Saturday, February 24, 2007
I, for one NEVER tire of these SA photos. One more facinating the the previous. So dramatic an event in our own time, recorded magnificently and represented with such seductive vividness. And of course its abundance and durability makes it a collector's dream. All Hail Sikhote-Alin and its many owners for sharing and of course, Mike for reliably providing a venue we all look forward to each day. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Saturday,February 24, 2007 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_24.html BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 23, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Feb
Michael; Jack has a winner in this sikhote.Beautiful! Thanks for the view. Herman. BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22, 2007
Very cool! Is this a double impact? It looks like another rim within the larger crater. Cheers, Pete From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22, 2007 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:14:12 EST http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_22.html BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Find out the restaurants participating in Winterlicious http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2cp=43.658648~-79.383962style=rlvl=15tilt=-90dir=0alt=-1000scene=3702663cid=7ABE80D1746919B4!1329 From January 26 to February 8, 2007 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22, 2007
Hi Pete, It's a very interesting piece with quite a unique 'crater'. It appears that it may have been a double impact or possibly the result of a jagged shrapnel fragment impacting the individual. Anyone on the list a ballistic expert? ;-) http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/funkysa.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au - Original Message - From: Pete Pete To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22,2007 Very cool! Is this a double impact? It looks like another rim within the larger crater. Cheers, Pete From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22, 2007 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:14:12 EST http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_22.html BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Find out the restaurants participating in Winterlicious http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2cp=43.658648~-79.383962style=rlvl=1 5tilt=-90dir=0alt=-1000scene=3702663cid=7ABE80D1746919B4!1329 From January 26 to February 8, 2007 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22, 2007
Also known a fly now, duck later Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22,2007 Hi Pete, It's a very interesting piece with quite a unique 'crater'. It appears that it may have been a double impact or possibly the result of a jagged shrapnel fragment impacting the individual. Anyone on the list a ballistic expert? ;-) http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/funkysa.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au - Original Message - From: Pete Pete To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22,2007 Very cool! Is this a double impact? It looks like another rim within the larger crater. Cheers, Pete From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22, 2007 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:14:12 EST http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_22.html BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Find out the restaurants participating in Winterlicious http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2cp=43.658648~-79.383962style=rlvl=1 5tilt=-90dir=0alt=-1000scene=3702663cid=7ABE80D1746919B4!1329 From January 26 to February 8, 2007 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 21, 2007
This has been a great parade of the variety from Sikhote-Alin! It really does help to imagine the tumultuous event that it was. ...any with mini impact craters? Cheers, Pete From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 21, 2007 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:43:12 EST http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_21.html BRBRBR**BR Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Find out the restaurants participating in Winterlicious http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2cp=43.658648~-79.383962style=rlvl=15tilt=-90dir=0alt=-1000scene=3702663cid=7ABE80D1746919B4!1329 From January 26 to February 8, 2007 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN
Micheal, Thanks for sharing those beautiful photos with us. Congrats on the great new addition to your collection. It is cool that it landed at your home 60 yrs to the date. Joe kerchner illinoismeteorites.com - Original Message From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:58:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN Congratulations Michael! Your newest Sikhote-Alin is a stunning specimen. Best, John Gwilliam At 01:08 PM 2/18/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list members, After posting several photos of list members sikhote-alin specimens I wanted to share this with all of you. http://spacerocksinc.com/SA10400.html Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. http://www.spacerocksinc.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 22, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 20, 2007
Ah, the glories a closer study can provide. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 20, 2007 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_20.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 21, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 19, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN
Congratulations Michael! Your newest Sikhote-Alin is a stunning specimen. Best, John Gwilliam At 01:08 PM 2/18/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list members, After posting several photos of list members sikhote-alin specimens I wanted to share this with all of you. http://spacerocksinc.com/SA10400.html Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. http://www.spacerocksinc.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 19, 2007
Gotta love it! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:27 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 19, 2007 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_19.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 20, 2007
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[meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN
Dear list members, After posting several photos of list members sikhote-alin specimens I wanted to share this with all of you. http://spacerocksinc.com/SA10400.html Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. http://www.spacerocksinc.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN
Beautiful! I love the fresh look of this SA. Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 18 Feb 2007 at 15:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list members, After posting several photos of list members sikhote-alin specimens I wanted to share this with all of you. http://spacerocksinc.com/SA10400.html Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. http://www.spacerocksinc.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN
Absolutely Superior. Enjoy your marvelous good shopping fortune. I'm sure you'll gain continued pleasure possessiing and ponderiing this georgous specimen now and forever as it adorns your collection. I hope this supplements the ongoing discussion as to whether Irons enjoy a Fusion Crust. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN Dear list members, After posting several photos of list members sikhote-alin specimens I wanted to share this with all of you. http://spacerocksinc.com/SA10400.html Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. http://www.spacerocksinc.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN
Michael Johnson: Dear list members, After posting several photos of list members Sikhote-Alin specimens I wanted to share this with all of you: http://spacerocksinc.com/SA10400.html Gary: Beautiful! I love the fresh look of this SA. Jerry: Absolutely superior. Bernd: Absolutely gorgeous. Sincere congratulations! Bernd - proud owner of 21 SA specimens with a total weight of 1869.7 grams __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN
Hello Michael, I very cool looking piece, NICE. Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN Dear list members, After posting several photos of list members sikhote-alin specimens I wanted to share this with all of you. http://spacerocksinc.com/SA10400.html Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. http://www.spacerocksinc.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin details and thumbprints
SA specialist and photographic artist Geoff N. wrote: As we know, the average size of thumbprints on Sikhote-Alin individuals increases in proportion to the size of the individual. In other words: if you have a piece in your collection whose regmaglypt size correlates with the specimen's size, you can be relatively sure that you have a piece that was not spalled off a larger mass. If the thumbprints are too large with regard to the specimen size, it fragmented from a larger mass. But how do you know? Well, just divide the average regmaglypt diameter by the size (length) of your specimen. According to Buchwald, you should get this: The ratio between the diameter of the regmaglypts and of the fragments ranges from 0.05 to 0.25, with the majority giving 0.08-0.10, for specimens 5-45 cm in size. Reference: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (UCLA, 1975, Vol.3, pp. 1123-1130). BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of California, 1975, Vol.1 , p. 18 / Vol. 3, p. 1126): Date of fall: Feb 12, 1947 Time: 10.38 a.m. (local time) Direction: N = S (10-15° east of north) Initial inclination:41° The initial declination had increased to 60-70° at the time of impact (zenith angle about 49°). Apparent diameter of the bolide:600m (with its luminous envelope). Length of smoke trail: 33 ± 9 km Dust trail observed for several hours. Brightness of bolide: exceeded that of the sun (about - 26) Point of complete breakup: 4 - 6 km (Hemmungspunkt) Initial velocity: 14.5 km/s Geocentric velocity: 9.2 km/s Heliocentric velocity:37 km/s Preatmospheric mass:1000 t Radius of light and sound phenomena:300 - 400 km Largest fragment: 1.745 kg Specimens collected:8.500 Total weight:23 tons It is estimated that a total of 70 tons fell, including dust. Impact holes: 122 (¢ 0.5 - 26 m/ 1 - 12 m) Scatter ellipse:1.6 km^2 ( N = S = 2.1 km /E = W = 1.0 km ) A smaller ellipse of 0.75 x 0.30 km was found to exist. Final velocities: 0.1 - 1 km/s Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin details and thumbprints
I had not noticed the relational size between regs and specimen sizes, but now that you point them out it seems obvious. I wonder what else I miss that is obvious? :) Gary On 18 Feb 2007 at 22:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As we know, the average size of thumbprints on Sikhote-Alin individuals increases in proportion to the size of the individual. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 17, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN
this some particulars from SA flow lines in a 7.5 gr. bullett http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4360/sikhote3amitx9.jpg bed eye in a 144 gr. SA http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1333/sikhote4minhw3.jpg troilite nodule http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9066/sikhote1amidt6.jpg Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 17, 2007
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[meteorite-list] SIKHOTE-ALIN PICTURE OF THE DAY - February 18, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 16, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 14, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 15, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 13, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 10, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 08, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 9, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 07, 2007
There's an official Meteor Kachina?!? Tracy Latimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 07, 2007 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:51:34 EST http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_7.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex001001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 07, 2007
Hi Tracy: Yes there is! Nangasohu Katsina, Chasing Star or Meteor Katsina According to some Hopi this Katsina represents a planet but to many others it is a meteor that is the Chasing Star. The Katsina wears an enormous head dress of trailing eagle feathers, carries a yucca whip and a bell and appears in pairs. Larry and Nancy On Wed, February 7, 2007 10:17 am, tracy latimer wrote: There's an official Meteor Kachina?!? Tracy Latimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 07, 2007 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 23:51:34 EST http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_7.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with people you know http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex001001msn/direct/01/?href=http:// expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - February 06, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Sunday, February 4, 2007
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[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Monday, February 5, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Saturday, February 03, 2007
Hmmm. No offense to the honorable M. Blood or his noteworthy specimen but does that hole look to you as if it received some acetylene assistance? I apologize if I am out of line, but the texture around the hole (and it's depth) looks odd to me. Yet the overall coloring looks natural and not reheated. Ken Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.spacerocksinc.com/February_3.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Picture of the Day - Friday, February 02, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question
Hi All, I knew I had seen that feature somewhere, but I could not remember at the time. Anyway I found it. It was in a 0.334g oriented Bensour individual I have in my collection. Here are three pics of the piece. While on an entirely different scale, both in size and class, it does have a striking resemblance to the feature in the Sikhote-Alin that caused this thread. http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour1.jpg http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour3.jpg Happy contemplating. Martin On 27 Jun 2006 20:38:24 UT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric wrote: Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=230002162891 OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe in Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons (cp. MAPS 33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by schreibersite + swathing kamacite. Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin: Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and S a n t a L u z i a*. .., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074): Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface, but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells, 5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given section perpendicular to the cylinders. (+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system. So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder. Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question
and of this what you say? http://www.mcomemeteorite.it/images/SikhoteAlingr.2162.JPG Matteo --- Martin Horejsi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi All, I knew I had seen that feature somewhere, but I could not remember at the time. Anyway I found it. It was in a 0.334g oriented Bensour individual I have in my collection. Here are three pics of the piece. While on an entirely different scale, both in size and class, it does have a striking resemblance to the feature in the Sikhote-Alin that caused this thread. http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour1.jpg http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/bensour3.jpg Happy contemplating. Martin On 27 Jun 2006 20:38:24 UT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric wrote: Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=230002162891 OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe in Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons (cp. MAPS 33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by schreibersite + swathing kamacite. Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin: Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and S a n t a L u z i a*. .., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074): Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface, but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells, 5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given section perpendicular to the cylinders. (+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system. So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder. Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin 'Impact Pit' Pics
Jason and List, Thanks for sharing. I like craters. Here you may see a really small Franconia iron with nice craters that the finder was so kind to let me have: http://www.johnkashuba.com/Pages/Meteorite%20Pages/Topics/FranconiaIronCratered.htm - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Jason Utas To: Meteorite-list Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:43 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin 'Impact Pit' Pics Hello All, After a bit of work on his part, and no fewer than thirty-seven emails that did or didn't get to wherever they were supposed to go (we may never know what gets lost within the bowels of the internet...), Jeff Kuyken was able to get a number of pics of cratered Sikhotes up onto his site. They're of seven Sikhote-Alins inour collection (viz., my father's and my collection), which display pits on leading edges, trailing edges, non-oriented irons, and in a fairly wide range of sizes. Enjoy! 7.9g Oriented. Crater on trailing edge. Diameter of crater is 3mm with a depth of ~1.5mm. Upraised rim, and small bump visible in the bottom of the pit itself. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa1.jpg 54.6g Not oriented. Crater is approximately2.5mm across and about 2mm deep.Upraised rim. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa5.jpg 77.7g Not oriented. Craterhas a2mm diameter and a 1/2mm depth. Clear upraised rim. Secondbest crater of the lot. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa3.jpghttp://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa7.jpg 17.9g Not oriented. Crater is 3mm in diameter and ~1.5-2mm deep. Thinupraised rim.http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa4.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa6.jpg 21.6g Not oriented. At least 5+mm in diameter and 4mm deep. Large rim, up to 1mm thick on one side.http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa8.jpg 47.4g Oriented Crater on the leading edge. The crater is 2.5mm in diameter and 1.5mm deep. Big rim, by far the best crater of the lot.http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa9.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa10.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa12.jpg 101.2g Oriented, crater just off dead-center on the leading edge. Diameter = 4mm Depth = 2mm Upraised rim, small bump in the centerof the floor of the crater, visible even in this wide-shot.http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa11.jpg And here's a picture of all of the Sikhotes together; the order from left to right, back row to front. 3, 2, 1, 6, 5, 4, 7 http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa2.jpg Best Regards, Jason __Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin 'Impact Pit' Pics
Hello All, After a bit of work on his part, and no fewer than thirty-seven emails that did or didn't get to wherever they were supposed to go (we may never know what gets lost within the bowels of the internet...), Jeff Kuyken was able to get a number of pics of cratered Sikhotes up onto his site. They're of seven Sikhote-Alins inour collection (viz., my father's and my collection), which display pits on leading edges, trailing edges, non-oriented irons, and in a fairly wide range of sizes. Enjoy! 7.9g Oriented. Crater on trailing edge. Diameter of crater is 3mm with a depth of ~1.5mm. Upraised rim, and small bump visible in the bottom of the pit itself. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa1.jpg 54.6g Not oriented. Crater is approximately2.5mm across and about 2mm deep.Upraised rim. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa5.jpg 77.7g Not oriented. Craterhas a2mm diameter and a 1/2mm depth. Clear upraised rim. Secondbest crater of the lot. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa3.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa7.jpg 17.9g Not oriented. Crater is 3mm in diameter and ~1.5-2mm deep. Thinupraised rim.http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa4.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa6.jpg 21.6g Not oriented. At least 5+mm in diameter and 4mm deep. Large rim, up to 1mm thick on one side. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa8.jpg 47.4g Oriented Crater on the leading edge. The crater is 2.5mm in diameter and 1.5mm deep. Big rim, by far the best crater of the lot. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa9.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa10.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa12.jpg 101.2g Oriented, crater just off dead-center on the leading edge. Diameter = 4mm Depth = 2mm Upraised rim, small bump in the centerof the floor of the crater, visible even in this wide-shot. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa11.jpg And here's a picture of all of the Sikhotes together; the order from left to right, back row to front. 3, 2, 1, 6, 5, 4, 7 http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa2.jpg Best Regards, Jason __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question
That would make sense Bernd. I initially noticed that it looks like two of them right next to each other. formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:38 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question Eric wrote: Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2300021628 91 OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe in Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons (cp. MAPS 33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by schreibersite + swathing kamacite. Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin: Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and S a n t a L u z i a*. .., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074): Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface, but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells, 5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given section perpendicular to the cylinders. (+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system. So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder. Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question
Here a pic with a troilite in Sikhote. http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/SikhoteAlin.JPG I would guess, that it would have been rather a lenticular troilite torn out. Schreibersite surrounding troilite or alone, wouldn't mark such a sharp border in my opinion, especially not in Sikhote, where we find it often in large skeletons of crystals. But where I have problems of understanding, is, how such a circular shape could have survived in a shrapnel at those high forces at the impact? Wouldn't be some deformation to be expect, as e.g. it happened to this inclusion in a shrapnel? http://www.meteorite.com/gallery/mh_sikhote-11.jpg Unfortunately now the pics from that auction seems not to be available anymore. Weren't there other regular shaped pits connected to that hole? To me it looks like a later deformation. Just a guess, Buckelboo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Jeff Kuyken Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2006 11:23 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question That would make sense Bernd. I initially noticed that it looks like two of them right next to each other. formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:38 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question Eric wrote: Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2300021628 91 OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe in Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons (cp. MAPS 33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by schreibersite + swathing kamacite. Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin: Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and S a n t a L u z i a*. .., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074): Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface, but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells, 5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given section perpendicular to the cylinders. (+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system. So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder. Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question
type the nodule in my slice? http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/SikhoteAlin.JPG Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Greetings Last night I listed a bunch of auctions one of which was a Sikhote-alin with a 2.5x2 cm circular feature in it. It is kind of like what you would expect of a large troilite except the surface (about 1-2mm lower than the surrounding surface) appears to be solid metal like the schrapnel. This morning I had an email from someone who said he had a piece with the same feature and was wondering what it was. Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=230002162891 -- Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question
Greetings Last night I listed a bunch of auctions one of which was a Sikhote-alin with a 2.5x2 cm circular feature in it. It is kind of like what you would expect of a large troilite except the surface (about 1-2mm lower than the surrounding surface) appears to be solid metal like the schrapnel. This morning I had an email from someone who said he had a piece with the same feature and was wondering what it was. Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=230002162891 -- Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question
Eric wrote: Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=230002162891 OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe in Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons (cp. MAPS 33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by schreibersite + swathing kamacite. Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin: Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and S a n t a L u z i a*. .., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074): Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface, but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells, 5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given section perpendicular to the cylinders. (+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system. So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder. Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question
Excellent Bernd!! That sounds just like what it is. There is no obvious troilite showing so maybe it was part of the half that split off this piece. Thanks for your always informative posts. -- Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com Eric wrote: Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=230002162891 OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe in Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons (cp. MAPS 33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by schreibersite + swathing kamacite. Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin: Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and S a n t a L u z i a*. .., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074): Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface, but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells, 5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given section perpendicular to the cylinders. (+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system. So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder. Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
