Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades
Hi Dave and all, That is my question too ( do Dia-Laser or Pro Slicer blades work well on irons?). When the CBN blades first came out they were much better. I use to cut multipal slices of irons. Something happened to the way they were making them and your lucky to get through your first slice on the CBN blades now. My cutting process hasn't changed. I've cut for a short period before (minute or so) and checked the CBN blade only to find part of the blade still has cutting material along the edge while other portions of the blade are completely smooth. So in my experience the CBN blades are no good. So what do people use for cutting iron slices? --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com To: m...@mhmeteorites.com; Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; Steve Arnold #1 meteorh...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Dear List: Do either the Dia-Laser or Pro Slicer blades work well on irons? I have used the CBN blade on irons and they wear out very fast - too fast to be useful. I am hesitant about using diamond blades on irons. Anybody have experience cutting irons? Dave __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Al,Dave,List, my experience are exactly the same , first the CBN blades worked well on irons, later,(since 3 years?)they don't work anymore because the CBN grit is not fixed well anymore. Greetings Andi Hi Dave and all, That is my question too ( do Dia-Laser or Pro Slicer blades work well on irons?). When the CBN blades first came out they were much better. I use to cut multipal slices of irons. Something happened to the way they were making them and your lucky to get through your first slice on the CBN blades now. My cutting process hasn't changed. I've cut for a short period before (minute or so) and checked the CBN blade only to find part of the blade still has cutting material along the edge while other portions of the blade are completely smooth. So in my experience the CBN blades are no good. So what do people use for cutting iron slices? --AL Mitterling Dear List: Do either the Dia-Laser or Pro Slicer blades work well on irons? I have used the CBN blade on irons and they wear out very fast - too fast to be useful. I am hesitant about using diamond blades on irons. Anybody have experience cutting irons? Dave __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Al and all, I have tried many different blades for both meteorite (stone and iron) as well as lapidary work. Regarding the CBN blades I talked to the gentleman that developed the CBN blade a few years ago in Tucson and expressed my displeasure in the CBN blade basically coming apart during the first cut with the cutting material just peeling off the core. What was interesting is that he had sold the blade to a manufacture to continue making them and that is about the time everyone started having problems!! He thought it had to do with something they had changed in his original bonding process. Anyway, I tried a few more and agree that there can be issues using them and the manufacture has not solved the problem and created the quality of the original CBN blade. I have had some ok results if you are cutting stones and small irons, but you have to gravity feed with very little pressure. Once the first bit of material comes off the edge the blade is basically done. This just seems like to much trouble and risk for the cost of the blade. However, after much struggling with cutting irons with a round blade I invested in a horizontal band saw. This is without a doubt the best (in my opinion) way to cut irons. The drawback for most would be the size of the saw and possibly investment cost. My saw is about 4ft wide x 1-1/2ft deep by 3ft tall and weighs over 300lbs. The band saw then opens up a whole new discussion of what type of blades to use, how many teeth per inch, blade speed, feed speed and types of cutting coolants. I agree with many that the Pro Slicer is a very good blade for cutting irons and stones. These blades can be purchased with a thin kerf to keep cutting loss to a minimum and they do not tend to bend or warp. Also, in my small (4) saw I have used a really inexpensive no name import blades and they hold up extremely well. The MK303 sintered continuous rim blades will also work very will and produce some of the smoothest cuts with virtually no saw marks that need to be lapped out. If you use a thin kerf MK303 and with out much finish lap work needed this all contributes to reducing cut loss. I also agree with what Ed said in his post about technique. It seems that no two stones or irons want to cut the same and you need to adjust to work with the material and not work against it. Best Regards to all! Bob Falls Colorado Springs, Colorado -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of al mitt Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:52 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hi Dave and all, That is my question too ( do Dia-Laser or Pro Slicer blades work well on irons?). When the CBN blades first came out they were much better. I use to cut multipal slices of irons. Something happened to the way they were making them and your lucky to get through your first slice on the CBN blades now. My cutting process hasn't changed. I've cut for a short period before (minute or so) and checked the CBN blade only to find part of the blade still has cutting material along the edge while other portions of the blade are completely smooth. So in my experience the CBN blades are no good. So what do people use for cutting iron slices? --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: David Pensenstadler Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Dear List: Do either the Dia-Laser or Pro Slicer blades work well on irons? I have used the CBN blade on irons and they wear out very fast - too fast to be useful. I am hesitant about using diamond blades on irons. Anybody have experience cutting irons? Dave __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi List I don't often weigh in on subjects, but cutting irons has long been an issue. The best I've seen cutting any metal, is a bandsaw. And, if money isn't an object, check out the custom made saws for opal slicing. Might be an answer in those for quantity cutting with a little modification. Mark Ferguson __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Saw Blades
Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Steve, I like the Dia-Laser blades by Lapcraft - great blades that last a long time. Several vendors sell them, but I get mine from Graves Company because they are located close to me in Florida - http://www.gravescompany.com/dialaser.htm Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG On 5/7/10, meteorh...@aol.com meteorh...@aol.com wrote: Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Pro-slicer blades - hands down. Cut like butter, best value and lasts the longest. Note: don't buy the 'meteorite CBN blade.' Just get the regular pro-slicer diamond blade. -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:25 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I second what Mike said about the CBN-meteorite blade. I bought one, used it, and it didn't blow my skirt up. I like the diamond blades much better. I've never tried a Pro-Slicer, but I'm happy with the Dia-Laser, so I don't forsee a switch. Although I may try a Pro-Slicer just to see. Best regards, MikeG On 5/7/10, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Pro-slicer blades - hands down. Cut like butter, best value and lasts the longest. Note: don't buy the 'meteorite CBN blade.' Just get the regular pro-slicer diamond blade. -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:25 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I also agree, the CBN blade didn't hold up. I used Pro-slicer as well, and found them a decent buy for the price, but the best blades in my experience are the MK sintered blades. Smooth as silk cuts and last about 3x as long as a pro-slicer, are much more durable and keep a much straighter cut. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 13:03:20 To: Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteorh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades I second what Mike said about the CBN-meteorite blade. I bought one, used it, and it didn't blow my skirt up. I like the diamond blades much better. I've never tried a Pro-Slicer, but I'm happy with the Dia-Laser, so I don't forsee a switch. Although I may try a Pro-Slicer just to see. Best regards, MikeG On 5/7/10, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Pro-slicer blades - hands down. Cut like butter, best value and lasts the longest. Note: don't buy the 'meteorite CBN blade.' Just get the regular pro-slicer diamond blade. -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:25 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi All, When I first bought my saw, I bought 4 blades to try them out. I bought an off-brand (no-name) Chinese-made diamond blade, a Lapcraft Dia-laser diamond blade, Meteorite CBN blade, and a super-thin (.006) Lapcraft Dia-laser. The Chinese-made generic blade cut great at first, but did not hold up. The CBN blade held up pretty well, but the cuts were slow and it seemed to struggle even when cutting softer chondrites. The Dia-Laser .006 was too thin for my pulley and saw, so I sold it. The Lapcraft blade cuts smoothly, holds up well, and doesn't rust. I made several hundred cuts with it before it finally gave out and I bought a new one. The price is about the same for the Lapcraft and Pro-Slicer blades. General question - what is the advantage of the sintered blades? Best regards and happy cutting! MikeG On 5/7/10, m...@mhmeteorites.com m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: I also agree, the CBN blade didn't hold up. I used Pro-slicer as well, and found them a decent buy for the price, but the best blades in my experience are the MK sintered blades. Smooth as silk cuts and last about 3x as long as a pro-slicer, are much more durable and keep a much straighter cut. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 13:03:20 To: Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteorh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades I second what Mike said about the CBN-meteorite blade. I bought one, used it, and it didn't blow my skirt up. I like the diamond blades much better. I've never tried a Pro-Slicer, but I'm happy with the Dia-Laser, so I don't forsee a switch. Although I may try a Pro-Slicer just to see. Best regards, MikeG On 5/7/10, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Pro-slicer blades - hands down. Cut like butter, best value and lasts the longest. Note: don't buy the 'meteorite CBN blade.' Just get the regular pro-slicer diamond blade. -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:25 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades
With sintered blades the diamonds are actually cooked in with the metallic alloys of the blade material, thus impregnating the diamonds into the rim of the blade. This creates a much longer-life and the sintering creates a more durable and stiffer metallic alloy. The non-sintered blades (pro-slicer) are made of basically, sheet-metal, and the diamonds are sprayed onto the rim. Once the diamonds are removed, the blade is worthless. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 13:45:13 To: m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Steve Arnold #1meteorh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hi All, When I first bought my saw, I bought 4 blades to try them out. I bought an off-brand (no-name) Chinese-made diamond blade, a Lapcraft Dia-laser diamond blade, Meteorite CBN blade, and a super-thin (.006) Lapcraft Dia-laser. The Chinese-made generic blade cut great at first, but did not hold up. The CBN blade held up pretty well, but the cuts were slow and it seemed to struggle even when cutting softer chondrites. The Dia-Laser .006 was too thin for my pulley and saw, so I sold it. The Lapcraft blade cuts smoothly, holds up well, and doesn't rust. I made several hundred cuts with it before it finally gave out and I bought a new one. The price is about the same for the Lapcraft and Pro-Slicer blades. General question - what is the advantage of the sintered blades? Best regards and happy cutting! MikeG On 5/7/10, m...@mhmeteorites.com m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: I also agree, the CBN blade didn't hold up. I used Pro-slicer as well, and found them a decent buy for the price, but the best blades in my experience are the MK sintered blades. Smooth as silk cuts and last about 3x as long as a pro-slicer, are much more durable and keep a much straighter cut. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 13:03:20 To: Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteorh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades I second what Mike said about the CBN-meteorite blade. I bought one, used it, and it didn't blow my skirt up. I like the diamond blades much better. I've never tried a Pro-Slicer, but I'm happy with the Dia-Laser, so I don't forsee a switch. Although I may try a Pro-Slicer just to see. Best regards, MikeG On 5/7/10, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Pro-slicer blades - hands down. Cut like butter, best value and lasts the longest. Note: don't buy the 'meteorite CBN blade.' Just get the regular pro-slicer diamond blade. -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:25 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http
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Hi List, Have to agree with Mike, I have used a lot of MK Diamond Saber blades and they are fine but they cost more than Pro Slicer and do not last as long. Especially since I cut sometimes dry. Pro Slicer blades do not seem to mind the occasional dry cut as much as other blades. A good price bargain as well. Jim Tobin - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Interesting. I have a completely different opinion. Personally, I think Pro-slicer is dramatically sub-par to MK. At least the new MK products. The one I use is the MK-303. http://www.mkdiamond.com/lapidary/bld_303.html. Cost is about 35-40 bucks for a 6. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: James Tobin jamespa...@att.net Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 11:13:54 To: meteorh...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hi List, Have to agree with Mike, I have used a lot of MK Diamond Saber blades and they are fine but they cost more than Pro Slicer and do not last as long. Especially since I cut sometimes dry. Pro Slicer blades do not seem to mind the occasional dry cut as much as other blades. A good price bargain as well. Jim Tobin - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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From: m...@mhmeteorites.com With sintered blades the diamonds are actually cooked in with the metallic alloys of the blade material, thus impregnating the diamonds into the rim of the blade. This creates a much longer-life and the sintering creates a more durable and stiffer metallic alloy. The non-sintered blades (pro-slicer) are made of basically, sheet-metal, and the diamonds are sprayed onto the rim. Once the diamonds are removed, the blade is worthless. Matt I cant agree with You. I use ONLY this worthless chinse diamond blades from ebay, this for 4-6$/ blade. I make hundreds slices on each, single blade before I need to change it becouse the rim with diamonds is basicaly losses completly into 0! I cant imagine to use any Pro-Slicer for 30-40$ :) I even used only one blade to cut urelites. Ofcourse , each slice take 30-50min to cut, but ... this blade do it. And my cut looses are very low. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I never commented on Chinese blades and do not use them. I am glad they work for you in some capacity. My comments were directed to Pro-slicer. For a very similar cost you can have a sintered blade. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Marcin Cimala - PolandMET mar...@meteoryt.net Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 22:10:25 Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades From: m...@mhmeteorites.com With sintered blades the diamonds are actually cooked in with the metallic alloys of the blade material, thus impregnating the diamonds into the rim of the blade. This creates a much longer-life and the sintering creates a more durable and stiffer metallic alloy. The non-sintered blades (pro-slicer) are made of basically, sheet-metal, and the diamonds are sprayed onto the rim. Once the diamonds are removed, the blade is worthless. Matt I cant agree with You. I use ONLY this worthless chinse diamond blades from ebay, this for 4-6$/ blade. I make hundreds slices on each, single blade before I need to change it becouse the rim with diamonds is basicaly losses completly into 0! I cant imagine to use any Pro-Slicer for 30-40$ :) I even used only one blade to cut urelites. Ofcourse , each slice take 30-50min to cut, but ... this blade do it. And my cut looses are very low. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades
Dear List: Do either the Dia-Laser or Pro Slicer blades work well on irons? I have used the CBN blade on irons and they wear out very fast - too fast to be useful. I am hesitant about using diamond blades on irons. Anybody have experience cutting irons? Dave --- On Fri, 5/7/10, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades To: m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com, Steve Arnold #1 meteorh...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, May 7, 2010, 1:45 PM Hi All, When I first bought my saw, I bought 4 blades to try them out. I bought an off-brand (no-name) Chinese-made diamond blade, a Lapcraft Dia-laser diamond blade, Meteorite CBN blade, and a super-thin (.006) Lapcraft Dia-laser. The Chinese-made generic blade cut great at first, but did not hold up. The CBN blade held up pretty well, but the cuts were slow and it seemed to struggle even when cutting softer chondrites. The Dia-Laser .006 was too thin for my pulley and saw, so I sold it. The Lapcraft blade cuts smoothly, holds up well, and doesn't rust. I made several hundred cuts with it before it finally gave out and I bought a new one. The price is about the same for the Lapcraft and Pro-Slicer blades. General question - what is the advantage of the sintered blades? Best regards and happy cutting! MikeG On 5/7/10, m...@mhmeteorites.com m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: I also agree, the CBN blade didn't hold up. I used Pro-slicer as well, and found them a decent buy for the price, but the best blades in my experience are the MK sintered blades. Smooth as silk cuts and last about 3x as long as a pro-slicer, are much more durable and keep a much straighter cut. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 13:03:20 To: Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteorh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades I second what Mike said about the CBN-meteorite blade. I bought one, used it, and it didn't blow my skirt up. I like the diamond blades much better. I've never tried a Pro-Slicer, but I'm happy with the Dia-Laser, so I don't forsee a switch. Although I may try a Pro-Slicer just to see. Best regards, MikeG On 5/7/10, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Pro-slicer blades - hands down. Cut like butter, best value and lasts the longest. Note: don't buy the 'meteorite CBN blade.' Just get the regular pro-slicer diamond blade. -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:25 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Hey List, Several years ago I stocked up on a bunch of saw blades, but now I am running out. I was curious what others might have found out there in terms of quality, performance and price with various manufacturers and or resellers? Responding either on list or off list would be appreciated. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades
Hi List, This is my opinion, but I believe it to be correct as it applies to cutting lapidary rough. Regardless of which brand, and the method of bonding the diamonds to the blade core (bonded to the blade core by being plated, sintered, or welded to the core,) one should consider how the blade is being used before complaining about the short blade life they experience. For example, dry cutting with a diamond blade that the manufacturer states must be used with a liquid coolant will typically shorten the useful life of that blade. The diamonds overheat, crack, and will come off of the blade prematurely instead of simply wearing down. If you apply too much pressure when cutting (pushing too hard when feeding the meteorite manually, or perhaps the autofeed mechanism on the saw is pushing too fast for the material being cut) - even when using coolant - the diamonds overheat and come off as when cutting dry, or are simply torn off by the pressure when feeding the material through the blade too quickly. And then, different materials will tend to cut faster or slower than others. How about those blade-killing diamond-bearing Ureillites? When pushing too hard, or cutting tougher/harder meteorites, two different people using the same brand and type of blade on the same meteorite can, and will experience different blade life depending on the material being cut and how quickly they try to get the job done. Just my 2 cents. Ed Deckert - Original Message - From: Marcin Cimala - PolandMET mar...@meteoryt.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades From: m...@mhmeteorites.com With sintered blades the diamonds are actually cooked in with the metallic alloys of the blade material, thus impregnating the diamonds into the rim of the blade. This creates a much longer-life and the sintering creates a more durable and stiffer metallic alloy. The non-sintered blades (pro-slicer) are made of basically, sheet-metal, and the diamonds are sprayed onto the rim. Once the diamonds are removed, the blade is worthless. Matt I cant agree with You. I use ONLY this worthless chinse diamond blades from ebay, this for 4-6$/ blade. I make hundreds slices on each, single blade before I need to change it becouse the rim with diamonds is basicaly losses completly into 0! I cant imagine to use any Pro-Slicer for 30-40$ :) I even used only one blade to cut urelites. Ofcourse , each slice take 30-50min to cut, but ... this blade do it. And my cut looses are very low. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14950) http://www.pctools.com/ === === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.14950) http://www.pctools.com/ === __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades
Hi Dave and all, That is my question too ( do Dia-Laser or Pro Slicer blades work well on irons?). When the CBN blades first came out they were much better. I use to cut multipal slices of irons. Something happened to the way they were making them and your lucky to get through your first slice on the CBN blades now. My cutting process hasn't changed. I've cut for a short period before (minute or so) and checked the CBN blade only to find part of the blade still has cutting material along the edge while other portions of the blade are completely smooth. So in my experience the CBN blades are no good. So what do people use for cutting iron slices? --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: David Pensenstadler Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades Dear List: Do either the Dia-Laser or Pro Slicer blades work well on irons? I have used the CBN blade on irons and they wear out very fast - too fast to be useful. I am hesitant about using diamond blades on irons. Anybody have experience cutting irons? Dave __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades - need help
Hi Christan and all, The CBN meteorite blades (for iron meteorites) worked well in the beginning but I have tried them off and on over the last few years and they wear out super quick. My set-up for cutting has remained the same, same saw and process but I used to get quite a few slices before wearing out the blade. I have literally worn out a blade in a minute or two due to the bad bonding of cutting material on the saw. I have even felt the blade and parts are still sharp where other sections (usually large) are smooth and worn or fallen off. If you buy some of those types just order a couple so you don't waste your money. Not good for stony material as it leaves far too much kerfing. A thin diamond saw is best. Good luck and hope you find a reliable source for your cutting. All my best! --AL Mitterling Christian Anger wrote: Hi all, I need some saw blades 8 x 0.020 x 5/8 and 8 x 0.012 x 5/8 Does anybody know sources in U.S.A where I could get some ? Thanks in advance for your help, Christian __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades - need help
Hi Christan and all, Sorry if this appears twice. The CBN meteorite blades (for iron meteorites) worked well in the beginning but I have tried them off and on over the last few years and they wear out super quick. My set-up for cutting has remained the same, same saw and process but I used to get quite a few slices before wearing out the blade. I have literally worn out a blade in a minute or two due to the bad bonding of cutting material on the saw. I have even felt the blade and parts are still sharp where other sections (usually large) are smooth and worn or fallen off. If you buy some of those types just order a couple so you don't waste your money. Not good for stony material as it leaves far too much kerfing. A thin diamond saw is best. Good luck and hope you find a reliable source for your cutting. All my best! --AL Mitterling Christian Anger wrote: Hi all, I need some saw blades 8 x 0.020 x 5/8 and 8 x 0.012 x 5/8 Does anybody know sources in U.S.A where I could get some ? Thanks in advance for your help, Christian __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Saw Blades - need help
Hi all, I need some saw blades 8 x 0.020 x 5/8 and 8 x 0.012 x 5/8 Does anybody know sources in U.S.A where I could get some ? Thanks in advance for your help, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades - need help
I get my Pro-Slicers here: http://www.acelapidary.com/Diamond%20Saw%20Blades.htm Or you can buy an extra from me for less :) Kind regards, Mike Bandli www.Astro-Artifacts.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Anger Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:00 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw Blades - need help Hi all, I need some saw blades 8 x 0.020 x 5/8 and 8 x 0.012 x 5/8 Does anybody know sources in U.S.A where I could get some ? Thanks in advance for your help, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] saw blades
Hello List, I finally got a saw, it is a six inch trim saw that will take a vice which I hope to get soon. I am shopping for a blade, but I want to do a lot of practice cuts on rocks, maybe a few NWA meteorites and don't really want to do this with a top dollar blade. Can anyone suggest a reasonably priced blade to learn with and where to get it. And, where is the best place to get a good blade once I feel confident enough to try it? : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm http://fstop.proboards24.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
