Re: [meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition

2004-01-24 Thread Ron Baalke
The first priority is to get the rover out of this continuous
reboot mode.  There was concern about the battery management
during these constant reboots.  The rover was commanded into
a special 'crippled' mode, and this has been successfully achieved. 
We are now downloading engineering data from the rover to 
determine the true extent of the rover's health and status.

Ron Baalke

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[meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition

2004-01-23 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/040123recovery.html

Spirit remains in 'critical' condition
BY WILLIAM HARWOOD
STORY WRITTEN FOR CBS NEWS SPACE PLACE  USED WITH PERMISSION
January 23, 2004

The crippled Spirit rover remains in critical condition on the surface of Mars,
engineers said today, the victim of ongoing electronic seizures that have caused
its central computer to reboot itself more than 60 times over the past two days. 
Engineers successfully coaxed the rover to beam back limited engineering data
during two brief communications sessions and they were relieved to discover
the spacecraft's power system was providing the necessary life support. But
Spirit's state of mind was clearly - and unusually - different in both sessions,
ruling out any simple explanations for what might have gone wrong. 

We have a serious problem, said project manager Pete Theisinger. The fact
that we've got a vehicle that we believe is stable for an extensive period of time
will give us time to work that problem. We can command it to talk to us and
even though we get perhaps limited information, we do get good information and
that helps us work through the problem. 

I expect that we will get functionality back out of this rover. I think the chances
that it will be perfect again, I would think, are not good. The chances that it will
not work at all, I think are also low. I think we're somewhere in that broad
middle and we need to understand the problem to find out exactly where we
are. 

Spirit went on the blink Wednesday as it was carrying out a procedure to
calibrate drive motors used by its thermal emission spectrometer. Prior to that
moment, everything was operating normally. But some event, possibly a
hardware failure of some sort, threw the rover's electronic brain for a loop. Since
then, the spacecraft has been in a state of limbo, responding in unusual fashion
to anxious flight controllers. 

This morning, we sent an early beep to the spacecraft and did not get a
response, Theisinger said. As we were preparing to send a second, the
spacecraft talked to us. We got very fractional frames and then moved very
quickly to ask it to speak to us for 30 minutes at 120 bits per second. We got 20
minutes of transmission in that occasion, which was a single frame of
engineering data repeated. 

Then we repeated that full sequence of events and we got about 15 minutes of
engineering data at 120 bits per second where the frames were updated for 15
minutes and then for the second 15 minutes we had nothing but fill data. 

He said Spirit has been in a processor reset loop of some type, mostly since
Wednesday, we believe, where the processor wakes up, loads the flight
software, uncovers a condition that would cause it to reset. But the
processor doesn't do that immediately. It waits for a period of time - at the
beginning of the day it waits for 15 minutes twice and then for the rest of the
day it waits for an hour - and then it resets and comes back up. 

Complicating the work to track down the problem, the indications we have
on two occasions is that the thing that causes the reset is not always
perceived to be the same, Theisinger said. We are
confused by that, but that's the facts as we presume them to be right now. 

The reset sequence, similar to repeatedly unplugging one's personal computer
and forcing it to restart, began Wednesday morning on Mars when a calibration
of the spectrometer motors ended prematurely. An anomaly team has been
formed to study the telemetry and to decide what readings to request from Spirit
to help narrow down the range of possible failures. 

I think we should expect that we will not be restoring functionality to Spirit for
a significant period of time, Theisinger said, I think many days, perhaps a
couple of weeks, even in the best of circumstances, from what we see today. 

In the meantime, he said, Spirit remains in critical condition. 

We do not know to what extent we can restore functionality to the system
because we don't know what's broke, Theisinger said. We don't know what
started this chain of events and I think, personally, that it's a sequence of
things, and we don't know, therefore, the consequences of that. I think its
difficult at this very preliminary stage to assume we did not have some type of
hardware event that caused this to start and therefore, we don't know to what
extent we can work around that hardware event and to what extent we can get
the software to ignore that hardware event if that's what we eventually have to
do. 

We've got a long way to go here with the patient in intensive care. But we
have been able to establish that we can command it, and we have been able to
establish that it can give us information and we have been able to establish that
the power system is good and we're thermally OK and those are all very, very
important pieces of information. 

We are a long, long way from being done here, but we do have serious
problems and our ability to 

Re: [meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition

2004-01-23 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
I have two theories, Spirit was hit my a meteorite, although a small target
on a big planet, it is more likely than the next theories, Spriit was
attacked by Martians!
Thanks, Tom
Peregrineflier 
IMCA 6168

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 http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/040123recovery.html

 Spirit remains in 'critical' condition
 BY WILLIAM HARWOOD
 STORY WRITTEN FOR CBS NEWS SPACE PLACE  USED WITH PERMISSION
 January 23, 2004

 The crippled Spirit rover remains in critical condition on the surface of
Mars,
 engineers said today, the victim of ongoing electronic seizures that have
caused
 its central computer to reboot itself more than 60 times over the past two
days.
 Engineers successfully coaxed the rover to beam back limited engineering
data
 during two brief communications sessions and they were relieved to
discover
 the spacecraft's power system was providing the necessary life support.
But
 Spirit's state of mind was clearly - and unusually - different in both
sessions,
 ruling out any simple explanations for what might have gone wrong.

 We have a serious problem, said project manager Pete Theisinger. The
fact
 that we've got a vehicle that we believe is stable for an extensive period
of time
 will give us time to work that problem. We can command it to talk to us
and
 even though we get perhaps limited information, we do get good information
and
 that helps us work through the problem.

 I expect that we will get functionality back out of this rover. I think
the chances
 that it will be perfect again, I would think, are not good. The chances
that it will
 not work at all, I think are also low. I think we're somewhere in that
broad
 middle and we need to understand the problem to find out exactly where we
 are.

 Spirit went on the blink Wednesday as it was carrying out a procedure to
 calibrate drive motors used by its thermal emission spectrometer. Prior to
that
 moment, everything was operating normally. But some event, possibly a
 hardware failure of some sort, threw the rover's electronic brain for a
loop. Since
 then, the spacecraft has been in a state of limbo, responding in unusual
fashion
 to anxious flight controllers.

 This morning, we sent an early beep to the spacecraft and did not get a
 response, Theisinger said. As we were preparing to send a second, the
 spacecraft talked to us. We got very fractional frames and then moved very
 quickly to ask it to speak to us for 30 minutes at 120 bits per second. We
got 20
 minutes of transmission in that occasion, which was a single frame of
 engineering data repeated.

 Then we repeated that full sequence of events and we got about 15 minutes
of
 engineering data at 120 bits per second where the frames were updated for
15
 minutes and then for the second 15 minutes we had nothing but fill data.

 He said Spirit has been in a processor reset loop of some type, mostly
since
 Wednesday, we believe, where the processor wakes up, loads the flight
 software, uncovers a condition that would cause it to reset. But the
 processor doesn't do that immediately. It waits for a period of time - at
the
 beginning of the day it waits for 15 minutes twice and then for the rest
of the
 day it waits for an hour - and then it resets and comes back up.

 Complicating the work to track down the problem, the indications we have
 on two occasions is that the thing that causes the reset is not always
 perceived to be the same, Theisinger said. We are
 confused by that, but that's the facts as we presume them to be right
now.

 The reset sequence, similar to repeatedly unplugging one's personal
computer
 and forcing it to restart, began Wednesday morning on Mars when a
calibration
 of the spectrometer motors ended prematurely. An anomaly team has been
 formed to study the telemetry and to decide what readings to request from
Spirit
 to help narrow down the range of possible failures.

 I think we should expect that we will not be restoring functionality to
Spirit for
 a significant period of time, Theisinger said, I think many days,
perhaps a
 couple of weeks, even in the best of circumstances, from what we see
today.

 In the meantime, he said, Spirit remains in critical condition.

 We do not know to what extent we can restore functionality to the system
 because we don't know what's broke, Theisinger said. We don't know what
 started this chain of events and I think, personally, that it's a sequence
of
 things, and we don't know, therefore, the consequences of that. I think
its
 difficult at this very preliminary stage to assume we did not have some
type of
 hardware event that caused this to start and therefore, we don't know to
what
 extent we can work around that hardware event and to what extent we can
get
 the software to ignore that hardware event if that's what we

Re: [meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition

2004-01-23 Thread Ron Baalke
 
 I have two theories, Spirit was hit my a meteorite, although a small target
 on a big planet, it is more likely than the next theories, Spriit was
 attacked by Martians!

Or maybe Spirit was attacked by Martians with meteorites.  :-)  

Ron

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RE: [meteorite-list] Spirit Remains In 'Critical' Condition

2004-01-23 Thread Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems
Hehe.

Personally, I think that this reboot-loop is caused by a short-circuit
somewhere.

BTW - one of the astonishing findings of ESA is that Mars seems to be
much warmer than thought. They expected -120°C to -30°C, but instead
they found the temperature is +4°C. Don't know where this temperature
was encountered, but if it's true, it seems that we have a LOT to learn
about Mars (and that conditions are more favorable to former (or
existing?) life than thought.

I read somewhere that the orbit of Mars is much more changing over time
than that of earth, and that Mars could have been much warmer a long
time ago because of that.

Hell, I wish I could be born in 20 years from now :-)

Bernhard

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 I have two theories, Spirit was hit my a meteorite, although a small 
 target on a big planet, it is more likely than the next theories, 
 Spriit was attacked by Martians!

Or maybe Spirit was attacked by Martians with meteorites.  :-)  

Ron

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