Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite
There may well have been a measurable depression of some sort in the Earth. Have you see the story of the circumstances of the find? I haven't, but I believe the find was in part inspired by the activities of Bill Cassidy's project to map a Campo "crater field" over the last several decades. -Original Message- From: Count Deiro via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: Mattias Bärmann <majbaerm...@web.de>; almitt2 <almi...@localnet.com>; meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 5:44 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite That had to have made a helluva thump when it hit.Surprised it didn't make a deeper hole...or a crater. Count Deiro -Original Message- From: Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list Sent: Sep 13, 2016 8:25 AM To: almi...@localnet.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite Nice pic of the newbie ... http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-1047905-galleryV9-xonf-1047905.jpg Am 13.09.2016 um 16:10 schrieb almitt2--- via Meteorite-list: Hi List, All sells of big iron meteorites of 28,000 kilos and over are now suspended! Ya I know, I don't like that cute joke anymore either but had to "weigh" in. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites Quoting Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>: Hi, My reading of the article, albeit through Google translate, talks about El Chaco being reweighed and its weight being reported at 28,840 kilos. The newly discovered meteorite weighs 30,800 kilos. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:05 AM To: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite https://steemit.com/gancedo/@merlinesm/meteorite-record-the-gancedo-weighs-3 0-8-tons-and-is-the-fourth-largest-in-the-world This article, with some great photos, lists it at 4th with 30,800kg as the official measure. Weighing the big ones like this and compairing them to others has always been confusing it seems. 2nd or 4th is kkind of irrelevant in my book. Still amazing... Cheers, John A. Shea, MD IMCA 3295 Sent using the mail.com mail app On 9/13/16 at 2:01 AM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote: Just a journalistic failure to fact check... The original El Chaco is said to be 37.4 MT (37,400 kg). They need to weigh this "Gancedo" more accurately perhaps, but it is over 14,500 pounds more to get from the Gancedo 30.8 MT to the El Chaco 37.4 MT: see the recovery of the find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OGZpVbI6I Best Doug -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>; meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 1:41 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm confused. This new find is 34 tons. El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? Referencing the book The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich and Nicolas Goldberg 2012 Page 45 Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > List, > > A 34-ton iron has been found > in the Campo del Cielo region > of Argentina: > http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 > > The meteorite was found on > Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, > 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, > Mario Vesconi, president of the > Astronomy Association of Chaco, > told the daily newspaper Clarin." > > "While we hoped for weights above > what had been registered, we did > not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] > tons," Vesconi noted, adding that > "the size and weight [about 68,000 > pounds] surprised us." > > "The meteorite will be weighed > again to ensure an accurate > measurement. Th
Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite
That had to have made a helluva thump when it hit.Surprised it didn't make a deeper hole...or a crater. Count Deiro -Original Message- From: Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list <METEORITE-LIST@METEORITECENTRAL.COM>Sent: Sep 13, 2016 8:25 AM To: almi...@localnet.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite Nice pic of the newbie ... http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-1047905-galleryV9-xonf-1047905.jpg Am 13.09.2016 um 16:10 schrieb almitt2--- via Meteorite-list: Hi List, All sells of big iron meteorites of 28,000 kilos and over are now suspended! Ya I know, I don't like that cute joke anymore either but had to "weigh" in. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites Quoting Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>: Hi, My reading of the article, albeit through Google translate, talks about El Chaco being reweighed and its weight being reported at 28,840 kilos. The newly discovered meteorite weighs 30,800 kilos. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:05 AM To: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite https://steemit.com/gancedo/@merlinesm/meteorite-record-the-gancedo-weighs-3 0-8-tons-and-is-the-fourth-largest-in-the-world This article, with some great photos, lists it at 4th with 30,800kg as the official measure. Weighing the big ones like this and compairing them to others has always been confusing it seems. 2nd or 4th is kkind of irrelevant in my book. Still amazing... Cheers, John A. Shea, MD IMCA 3295 Sent using the mail.com mail app On 9/13/16 at 2:01 AM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote: Just a journalistic failure to fact check... The original El Chaco is said to be 37.4 MT (37,400 kg). They need to weigh this "Gancedo" more accurately perhaps, but it is over 14,500 pounds more to get from the Gancedo 30.8 MT to the El Chaco 37.4 MT: see the recovery of the find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OGZpVbI6I Best Doug -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>; meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 1:41 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm confused. This new find is 34 tons. El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? Referencing the book The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich and Nicolas Goldberg 2012 Page 45 Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > List, > > A 34-ton iron has been found > in the Campo del Cielo region > of Argentina: > http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 > > The meteorite was found on > Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, > 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, > Mario Vesconi, president of the > Astronomy Association of Chaco, > told the daily newspaper Clarin." > > "While we hoped for weights above > what had been registered, we did > not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] > tons," Vesconi noted, adding that > "the size and weight [about 68,000 > pounds] surprised us." > > "The meteorite will be weighed > again to ensure an accurate > measurement. The largest > meteorite ever found is Hoba, > weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." > > See also: > http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovere > d-in-arg > entina-at-ancient-m/ > > > Sterling K. Webb > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list M
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Hi List, All sells of big iron meteorites of 28,000 kilos and over are now suspended! Ya I know, I don't like that cute joke anymore either but had to "weigh" in. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites Quoting Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>: Hi, My reading of the article, albeit through Google translate, talks about El Chaco being reweighed and its weight being reported at 28,840 kilos. The newly discovered meteorite weighs 30,800 kilos. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:05 AM To: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite https://steemit.com/gancedo/@merlinesm/meteorite-record-the-gancedo-weighs-3 0-8-tons-and-is-the-fourth-largest-in-the-world This article, with some great photos, lists it at 4th with 30,800kg as the official measure. Weighing the big ones like this and compairing them to others has always been confusing it seems. 2nd or 4th is kkind of irrelevant in my book. Still amazing... Cheers, John A. Shea, MD IMCA 3295 Sent using the mail.com mail app On 9/13/16 at 2:01 AM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote: Just a journalistic failure to fact check... The original El Chaco is said to be 37.4 MT (37,400 kg). They need to weigh this "Gancedo" more accurately perhaps, but it is over 14,500 pounds more to get from the Gancedo 30.8 MT to the El Chaco 37.4 MT: see the recovery of the find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OGZpVbI6I Best Doug -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>; meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 1:41 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm confused. This new find is 34 tons. El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? Referencing the book The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich and Nicolas Goldberg 2012 Page 45 Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > List, > > A 34-ton iron has been found > in the Campo del Cielo region > of Argentina: > http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 > > The meteorite was found on > Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, > 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, > Mario Vesconi, president of the > Astronomy Association of Chaco, > told the daily newspaper Clarin." > > "While we hoped for weights above > what had been registered, we did > not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] > tons," Vesconi noted, adding that > "the size and weight [about 68,000 > pounds] surprised us." > > "The meteorite will be weighed > again to ensure an accurate > measurement. The largest > meteorite ever found is Hoba, > weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." > > See also: > http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovere > d-in-arg > entina-at-ancient-m/ > > > Sterling K. Webb > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.mete
Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite
Nice pic of the newbie ... http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-1047905-galleryV9-xonf-1047905.jpg Am 13.09.2016 um 16:10 schrieb almitt2--- via Meteorite-list: Hi List, All sells of big iron meteorites of 28,000 kilos and over are now suspended! Ya I know, I don't like that cute joke anymore either but had to "weigh" in. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites Quoting Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>: Hi, My reading of the article, albeit through Google translate, talks about El Chaco being reweighed and its weight being reported at 28,840 kilos. The newly discovered meteorite weighs 30,800 kilos. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:05 AM To: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite https://steemit.com/gancedo/@merlinesm/meteorite-record-the-gancedo-weighs-3 0-8-tons-and-is-the-fourth-largest-in-the-world This article, with some great photos, lists it at 4th with 30,800kg as the official measure. Weighing the big ones like this and compairing them to others has always been confusing it seems. 2nd or 4th is kkind of irrelevant in my book. Still amazing... Cheers, John A. Shea, MD IMCA 3295 Sent using the mail.com mail app On 9/13/16 at 2:01 AM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote: Just a journalistic failure to fact check... The original El Chaco is said to be 37.4 MT (37,400 kg). They need to weigh this "Gancedo" more accurately perhaps, but it is over 14,500 pounds more to get from the Gancedo 30.8 MT to the El Chaco 37.4 MT: see the recovery of the find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OGZpVbI6I Best Doug -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>; meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 1:41 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm confused. This new find is 34 tons. El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? Referencing the book The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich and Nicolas Goldberg 2012 Page 45 Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > List, > > A 34-ton iron has been found > in the Campo del Cielo region > of Argentina: > http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 > > The meteorite was found on > Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, > 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, > Mario Vesconi, president of the > Astronomy Association of Chaco, > told the daily newspaper Clarin." > > "While we hoped for weights above > what had been registered, we did > not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] > tons," Vesconi noted, adding that > "the size and weight [about 68,000 > pounds] surprised us." > > "The meteorite will be weighed > again to ensure an accurate > measurement. The largest > meteorite ever found is Hoba, > weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." > > See also: > http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovere > d-in-arg > entina-at-ancient-m/ > > > Sterling K. Webb > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https:/
Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite
Peter, John and Al, I agree with John about the weighing difficulties, heck, even less than a quarter ton meteorite isn't a convenient thing to weigh... I found another article published today in La Nacion (Argentina) which seemed to throw some light on what's going on and probably is the article you're referring to. It shows that the guy who who made the press release to begin with, who is in the Chaco Astronomy Club set off the flurry of articles. His claim is: My interpretation: "According to what he explained, the celestial mass weighs 30,800 kilograms and the extraction equipment was taken advantage of to weigh another meteorite that was discovered previously, El Chaco, which reached a weight of 28,840 kilograms." So the recovery team that found the new Gancedo mass is claiming theirs is the biggest in town now. As pointed out in John's article, AMNH's Cape York mass is still larger at a claimed weight of 30,900 kilograms. Also, the new buried mass was in some water and probably remains to be cleaned of shale, dirt and water and reweighed properly then. El Chaco appears to have undergone that, whether by cleaning or natural shedding during its decades on display. There is a great deal of political tension surrounding these meteorites. El Chaco was originally cleared by lawmakers to go on a temporary exhibit in Germany in 2012, with the intent of sharing with Europe its story and generating interest in tourism in Argentina. However several interests banded together to force the government to retract their offer of good will. The explanation was that there was a danger of loss and damage and that the meteorite was owned by the people of Argentina and had a sacred role in the indigenous peoples living in that area, the Moqoit, so it wasn't appropriate to export for that reason either. Since then, the groups: academics, anthropologists, conservationists, the local Astronomy Club, and tourism forces have been re-enforcing and building up a culture surrounding the meteorites. As for the indigenous attributed narrative coming to light, this is from an article in the paper of an anthropologist that got a job doing this work: For the Moqoit the Cosmos is filled with different non-human beings that it is necessary but dangerous to relate to. Milky Way. is how the Moqoit interpret the heavens, etc., and its brightness shows the power of these beings, etc. etc. In this context meteorites have great importance for this group. They are seen as stars that fall to the ground and portend rains, and are also seen as sources of luck and fortune, since they are the embodiment of the powerful beings in the skies here on Earth. The meteorites are filled with power and their manipulation is dangerous but also associated with building leadership. He continues in an Arthurian/Camelot flavor: "It is thought that the meteorites bury themselves deeply when falling and start emerging slowly from the ground on the surface to those person for whom they are destined. For the indigenous, the removal of meteorites by Argentinian of European descent, and by foreigners, acts like a symbol of the sacking of their resources they have experienced since the Conquest, and their forced settlement (from their nomadic lifestyle). The meteorites fill an iconic roll for these communities. The interest of outsiders for many of them is a metaphor for the inequalities existing in the world. For that reason lately, many actions to reclaim their rights are organized around the meteorites. ref: http://elfederal.com.ar/nota/revista/28622/meteoritos-fundamentales-en-la-cultura-indigena-de-chaco Kindest wishes Doug Now, I will never eat another Gansito again without special contemplation! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gansito -Original Message- From: Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 7:14 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite Hi, My reading of the article, albeit through Google translate, talks about El Chaco being reweighed and its weight being reported at 28,840 kilos. The newly discovered meteorite weighs 30,800 kilos. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:05 AM To: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite https://steemit.com/gancedo/@merlinesm/meteorite-record-the-gancedo-weighs-3 0-8-tons-and-is-the-fourth-largest-in-the-world This article, with some great photos, lists it at 4th with 30,800kg as the official measure. Weighing the big ones like this and compairing them to others has always been confusing it seems. 2nd or 4th is kkind of irrelevant in my book. Still amazing... Cheers,
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Hi List, All sells of big iron meteorites of 28,000 kilos and over are now suspended! Ya I know, I don't like that cute joke anymore either but had to "weigh" in. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites Quoting Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>: Hi, My reading of the article, albeit through Google translate, talks about El Chaco being reweighed and its weight being reported at 28,840 kilos. The newly discovered meteorite weighs 30,800 kilos. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:05 AM To: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite https://steemit.com/gancedo/@merlinesm/meteorite-record-the-gancedo-weighs-3 0-8-tons-and-is-the-fourth-largest-in-the-world This article, with some great photos, lists it at 4th with 30,800kg as the official measure. Weighing the big ones like this and compairing them to others has always been confusing it seems. 2nd or 4th is kkind of irrelevant in my book. Still amazing... Cheers, John A. Shea, MD IMCA 3295 Sent using the mail.com mail app On 9/13/16 at 2:01 AM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote: Just a journalistic failure to fact check... The original El Chaco is said to be 37.4 MT (37,400 kg). They need to weigh this "Gancedo" more accurately perhaps, but it is over 14,500 pounds more to get from the Gancedo 30.8 MT to the El Chaco 37.4 MT: see the recovery of the find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OGZpVbI6I Best Doug -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>; meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 1:41 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm confused. This new find is 34 tons. El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? Referencing the book The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich and Nicolas Goldberg 2012 Page 45 Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > List, > > A 34-ton iron has been found > in the Campo del Cielo region > of Argentina: > http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 > > The meteorite was found on > Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, > 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, > Mario Vesconi, president of the > Astronomy Association of Chaco, > told the daily newspaper Clarin." > > "While we hoped for weights above > what had been registered, we did > not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] > tons," Vesconi noted, adding that > "the size and weight [about 68,000 > pounds] surprised us." > > "The meteorite will be weighed > again to ensure an accurate > measurement. The largest > meteorite ever found is Hoba, > weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." > > See also: > http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovere > d-in-arg > entina-at-ancient-m/ > > > Sterling K. Webb > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral a
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Hi, My reading of the article, albeit through Google translate, talks about El Chaco being reweighed and its weight being reported at 28,840 kilos. The newly discovered meteorite weighs 30,800 kilos. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:05 AM To: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite https://steemit.com/gancedo/@merlinesm/meteorite-record-the-gancedo-weighs-3 0-8-tons-and-is-the-fourth-largest-in-the-world This article, with some great photos, lists it at 4th with 30,800kg as the official measure. Weighing the big ones like this and compairing them to others has always been confusing it seems. 2nd or 4th is kkind of irrelevant in my book. Still amazing... Cheers, John A. Shea, MD IMCA 3295 Sent using the mail.com mail app On 9/13/16 at 2:01 AM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote: > Just a journalistic failure to fact check... The original El Chaco is said to be 37.4 MT (37,400 kg). They need to weigh this "Gancedo" more accurately perhaps, but it is over 14,500 pounds more to get from the Gancedo 30.8 MT to the El Chaco 37.4 MT: > > see the recovery of the find here: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OGZpVbI6I > Best > Doug > > > -Original Message- > From: Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > To: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>; meteorite-list > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 1:41 am > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > > I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm > confused. > > This new find is 34 tons. > > El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. > > I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? > > Referencing the book > The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich and > Nicolas Goldberg > 2012 > Page 45 > > > Rob Wesel > -- > Nakhla Dog Meteorites > www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites > www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel > -- > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > > -- > From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM > To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > > > List, > > > > A 34-ton iron has been found > > in the Campo del Cielo region > > of Argentina: > > http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 > > > > The meteorite was found on > > Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, > > 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, > > Mario Vesconi, president of the > > Astronomy Association of Chaco, > > told the daily newspaper Clarin." > > > > "While we hoped for weights above > > what had been registered, we did > > not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] > > tons," Vesconi noted, adding that > > "the size and weight [about 68,000 > > pounds] surprised us." > > > > "The meteorite will be weighed > > again to ensure an accurate > > measurement. The largest > > meteorite ever found is Hoba, > > weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." > > > > See also: > > http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovere > > d-in-arg > > entina-at-ancient-m/ > > > > > > Sterling K. Webb > > > > __ > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral > > and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.
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https://steemit.com/gancedo/@merlinesm/meteorite-record-the-gancedo-weighs-30-8-tons-and-is-the-fourth-largest-in-the-world This article, with some great photos, lists it at 4th with 30,800kg as the official measure. Weighing the big ones like this and compairing them to others has always been confusing it seems. 2nd or 4th is kkind of irrelevant in my book. Still amazing... Cheers, John A. Shea, MD IMCA 3295 Sent using the mail.com mail app On 9/13/16 at 2:01 AM, MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list wrote: > Just a journalistic failure to fact check... The original El Chaco is said > to be 37.4 MT (37,400 kg). They need to weigh this "Gancedo" more accurately > perhaps, but it is over 14,500 pounds more to get from the Gancedo 30.8 MT to > the El Chaco 37.4 MT: > > see the recovery of the find here: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OGZpVbI6I > Best > Doug > > > -Original Message- > From: Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > To: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>; meteorite-list > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 1:41 am > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > > I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm > confused. > > This new find is 34 tons. > > El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. > > I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? > > Referencing the book > The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco > Guillermo Faivovich and Nicolas Goldberg > 2012 > Page 45 > > > Rob Wesel > -- > Nakhla Dog Meteorites > www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites > www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel > -- > We are the music makers... > and we are the dreamers of the dreams. > Willy Wonka, 1971 > > > > > -- > From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM > To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > > > List, > > > > A 34-ton iron has been found > > in the Campo del Cielo region > > of Argentina: > > http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 > > > > The meteorite was found on > > Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, > > 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, > > Mario Vesconi, president of the > > Astronomy Association of Chaco, > > told the daily newspaper Clarin." > > > > "While we hoped for weights above > > what had been registered, we did > > not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] > > tons," Vesconi noted, adding that > > "the size and weight [about 68,000 > > pounds] surprised us." > > > > "The meteorite will be weighed > > again to ensure an accurate > > measurement. The largest > > meteorite ever found is Hoba, > > weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." > > > > See also: > > http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovered-in-arg > > entina-at-ancient-m/ > > > > > > Sterling K. Webb > > > > __ > > > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite
Just a journalistic failure to fact check... The original El Chaco is said to be 37.4 MT (37,400 kg). They need to weigh this "Gancedo" more accurately perhaps, but it is over 14,500 pounds more to get from the Gancedo 30.8 MT to the El Chaco 37.4 MT: see the recovery of the find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7OGZpVbI6I Best Doug -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>; meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2016 1:41 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm confused. This new find is 34 tons. El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? Referencing the book The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich and Nicolas Goldberg 2012 Page 45 Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > List, > > A 34-ton iron has been found > in the Campo del Cielo region > of Argentina: > http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 > > The meteorite was found on > Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, > 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, > Mario Vesconi, president of the > Astronomy Association of Chaco, > told the daily newspaper Clarin." > > "While we hoped for weights above > what had been registered, we did > not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] > tons," Vesconi noted, adding that > "the size and weight [about 68,000 > pounds] surprised us." > > "The meteorite will be weighed > again to ensure an accurate > measurement. The largest > meteorite ever found is Hoba, > weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." > > See also: > http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovered-in-arg > entina-at-ancient-m/ > > > Sterling K. Webb > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite
Hi, Rob, There are several "tons." There's the English or "short" Ton, the unit of weight in the avoirdupois system equal to 2,000 pounds (907.18 kg) in the United States (the short ton) and 2,240 pounds (1,016.05 kg) in Britain (the long ton). The metric ton used in most other countries is 1,000 kg, which is equivalent to 2,204.6 pounds avoirdupois. And just in case you want to go crazy there are other weight system pounds than the avoirdupois one. Biggest Campo is always Number Two until they find one bigger than Hoba! I just take these Argentines word for it that this Campo is bigger than the previous record-holder, which makes it Meteorite Number Two... as reported by a Chinese newspaper! Sterling --- -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel [mailto:nakhla...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 12:41 AM To: Sterling K. Webb; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm confused. This new find is 34 tons. El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? Referencing the book The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich and Nicolas Goldberg 2012 Page 45 Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite > List, > > A 34-ton iron has been found > in the Campo del Cielo region > of Argentina: > http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 > > The meteorite was found on > Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, > 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, > Mario Vesconi, president of the > Astronomy Association of Chaco, > told the daily newspaper Clarin." > > "While we hoped for weights above > what had been registered, we did > not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] > tons," Vesconi noted, adding that > "the size and weight [about 68,000 > pounds] surprised us." > > "The meteorite will be weighed > again to ensure an accurate > measurement. The largest > meteorite ever found is Hoba, > weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." > > See also: > http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovered- > in-arg > entina-at-ancient-m/ > > > Sterling K. Webb > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and > the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite
I have seen this in the news a few times today. Amazing find but I'm confused. This new find is 34 tons. El Chaco weighs in at 37 tons and Hoba has them beat at 66. I missing a metric conversion in reference to El Chaco? Referencing the book The Campo Del Cielo Meteorites, Vol. II, Chaco Guillermo Faivovich and Nicolas Goldberg 2012 Page 45 Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:52 PM To: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Subject: [meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite List, A 34-ton iron has been found in the Campo del Cielo region of Argentina: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 The meteorite was found on Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, Mario Vesconi, president of the Astronomy Association of Chaco, told the daily newspaper Clarin." "While we hoped for weights above what had been registered, we did not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] tons," Vesconi noted, adding that "the size and weight [about 68,000 pounds] surprised us." "The meteorite will be weighed again to ensure an accurate measurement. The largest meteorite ever found is Hoba, weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." See also: http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovered-in-arg entina-at-ancient-m/ Sterling K. Webb __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The World's Second Largest Meteorite
List, A 34-ton iron has been found in the Campo del Cielo region of Argentina: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=332776 The meteorite was found on Sept. 10 in the town of Gancedo, 1,085 km north of Buenos Aires, Mario Vesconi, president of the Astronomy Association of Chaco, told the daily newspaper Clarin." "While we hoped for weights above what had been registered, we did not expect it to exceed 30 [metric] tons," Vesconi noted, adding that "the size and weight [about 68,000 pounds] surprised us." "The meteorite will be weighed again to ensure an accurate measurement. The largest meteorite ever found is Hoba, weighing 66 tons, in Namibia." See also: http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/sep/12/30-ton-meteor-discovered-in-arg entina-at-ancient-m/ Sterling K. Webb __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
