Thanks Mark, see you in Tucson as well! I'll be at the birthday bash for the
first time as I am now 21 ;)
Bob, universities actually do make trades and buy new material. I was lucky
enough to be let into the vault and there was kilos and kilos of new stuff that
had been traded and bought to add or to replace collection pieces. Garvie is
very adamant about improving ASU's collection.
[Erik]
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On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:39 PM, Erik Fisler phxe...@yahoo.com wrote:
Well Hello there fellow list members!
I'd like to step out of the shadows and share some of my experiences now that
I'm working my way through my junior year of my space exploration degree at
ASU.
Being that I completed my associates degree from a community college (which a
very friendly and welcoming environment) and have now transferred to ASU, I
have noticed some interesting things in the environment of a university.
One very interesting thing I've noticed is that engineers look down their
noses at scientists and vice versa.
I think that is the funniest thing! It's really enjoyable to hear an engineer
or a scientist make some jab at the other team. Apparently it's not just at
ASU but at UofA and NAU as well so I've heard from friends attending those
schools. That is a terrible rivalry or what ever you'd like to call it which
can only lead to issues in collaboration between both groups.
Another interesting 'preconceived notion' I've experienced is that as far a
meteorite go, people at the university, professors and students, see
meteorite hunters almost like pirates, sucking up material the university is
entitled to. I let my astrophysics class including my professor hurl all
sorts of silly notions at me before I clarified what meteorite hunting is
like. I'm sure their view has been skewed from shows like Meteorite Men and
from some of the Saharan Hunters. I explained that the Meteorite Men have
special permission to hunt some of those fields and that they are hunting
fields in which there is no shortage of material for universities. I
explained that hunters like in the South Western United States spend months
and months before finding new falls and that it is almost impossible to
profit as a meteorite hunter, baring few exceptions. I also explained that
hunting fields like Franconia or Gold Basin have so much material that there
is more than enough for U
ni
versities to acquire. I also explained that the extreme drop in Austrailian
finds to almost none is actually inhibiting those Universities from acquiring
new material for research and discovery of new meteorite types. On top of
that I explained that a University doesn't need 30 kilos of material to study
lol.
Meteorite hunters find a field, donate 20g's or 20% or sometimes kilos worth
a material for classification. It's very important that this is how hunters
process their finds along with meticulous collection habits like GPSing and
recording each find so these unknowing educates have no ammunition when they
come for our hunting rights. It was an eye opening experience for me to see
that even though they can be highly experienced they aren't all as
understanding as Laurence Garvie and the other select few educates we all
work with. It's scary to think they project these notions on to the students
who flow semester after semester through their classes.
Raising awareness and educating people is how we can keep our hunting
freedoms and how we can protect future meteorite discoveries from
terrestrialization as a result of draconian legislations.
[Erik]
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