[meteorite-list] Wethersfield (1982) a re- post sort of
Sending this for Bernd as he cannot post to the list. Hello Listers, Listees, and Listoids, Many years ago, we already discussed this remarkable coincidence and I sent the below-mentioned reference to the List: DENNIS di CICCO (1983) Target Wethersfield - Wethersfield meteorite: The odds were astronomical (Sky & Telescope, 1983 Feb., pp 118-119). Interesting article, lots of details, and photos! With regard to the subject of related meteorite falls eleven years apart, there was an interesting article in Meteoritics, well, ... this one here: TREIMAN A.H. (1992) Fall days of the SNC meteorites: Evidence for an SNC meteoroid stream, and a common site of origin (Meteoritics 27-1, 1992, 93-95). Best wishes, Bernd (in Germany) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wethersfield 1971 (ad)
Hi all, I was able to get a small amount of this impossible to get hammer (TKW: 350g in an institution). This is an absolutely one time opportunity To have this material in your collection. To the best of my knowledge There will be a total of 5 people on earth who have any. This was the first of two, 11 years apart, that struck houses in the small town of Wethersfield, CT. Until midnight Monday, Feb. 25 (tomorrow) I will offer this material At 20% off the catalog price to any list member. After that, the prices stays where they are (or go up). You can read about and see this material at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html Best wishes, Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wethersfield meteorites 1971 & 1982
Hi Gerald and all, As many are aware, I am a "Hammerhead" and both sell and collect all hammers I have ever been able to get my hands on. I have never seen either the April 8, 1971 or the Nov. 8, 1982 Wethersfield falls available at any price. It should be noted, however, that in my experience, that can be said for over half my collection and at least 1/4 for what I have for sale - until I found one/some. However, when you DO find a source for something that was, at least until then, "never available" you usually have to pay dearly for it - and I mean dearly. Personally, I have been amazed that very, very little of what I have found more than one piece of that had "never" been available, sells. I price it the same as I price all material, based on cost and replacement cost, yet very few people get these ultra, ultra rare specimens. Of course, I do not hesitate when a hammer that is "never available" comes to me - I jump on it like a dog on a bone. One of the interesting phenomena I have noted is that the ultra rare (something that is, on very rare occasion available - like Burnwell) DOES sell at whatever "the market" demands at the time it comes available. This has led me to believe that collectors would rather spend a relatively large sum of money (relative to weight) on something occasionally available than something "never" available BECAUSE they can do some sort of "price comparison," even if it is removed in time by several years (I have only seen Burnwell available a few times in the last 20years). Whereas, with the "never" available, there is no price comparison - even one removed in time (IE, Kobe, Ausson & Chiang-Khan [though Chiang-Khan was at one time available]) If you or any other list member does find either of the Wethersfield falls available, I will pay a "finders' fee" if you let me know about it and I get some. Happy hunting, Michael "Hammerhead" Blood on 3/18/07 4:18 AM, Gerald Flaherty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Two meteorites fell in the town of Wethersfield Connecticut, each striking a > house, in the space of 11 years. The first in 1971 the second in 1982, an > event [events] against all astronomical odds. > I understand that one of the Wethersfield meteorites is in the Smithsonian > and The other, in the Connecticut Peabody Museum. > Did Any of either become available to collectors? > These have to be priceless! > Jerry Flaherty > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- "What fits your busy schedule better, exercising one hour a day or being dead 24 hours a day?" Anon -- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. ---Graffito: The Bayou, Baton Rouge , LO -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wethersfield
In regard to the 1982 fall, to quote from Grady's Catalogue of Meteorites: "a mass of 2704g and about 52g of fragments were recovered after they had penatrated the roof of a house" 52g of fragments? Are any in circulation?? Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wethersfield meteorites 1971 & 1982
Two meteorites fell in the town of Wethersfield Connecticut, each striking a house, in the space of 11 years. The first in 1971 the second in 1982, an event [events] against all astronomical odds. I understand that one of the Wethersfield meteorites is in the Smithsonian and The other, in the Connecticut Peabody Museum. Did Any of either become available to collectors? These have to be priceless! Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] wethersfield ct meteorites
Hello List, Are both of the wethersfield meteorites 'out of circulation' ie. in the Ct. Peabody Museum? None for sale right? Great "hammers"! Jerry Flaherty __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wethersfield Meteorites was "Question"
Thanks, Paul, Great to have the info, even though it is disappointing. Best wishes, Michael on 8/29/06 7:11 AM, Paul at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Michael L Blood asked: > > "In 1971 a meteorite struck a hous in > Wethersfield,Conn. As if that weren't > enough, ANOTHER meteorite struck > another house in that small town in 1982! > I'm stoked. However, I have NEVER > seen either of these falls available for > sale. Has ANYONE on the list seen either/ > both of these falls available for sale? > Anyone have any?" > > The main mass of the 1982 fall is in the Peabody > Museum of Natural History as noted in The Wethersfield > Meteorite, Meteorites and Planetary Science, Peabody > Museum of Natural History at: > > http://www.yale.edu/peabody/collections/met/index.html > > There was only 52 grams of fragments, which broke off of > the 2.756 kg main mass. I suspect that these were consumed > in the studies of the meteorite mentioned in the above > article. > > The 1971 meteorite is owned by the Division of Meteorites > of the Smithsonian Institution in Washington. From what I > found, there was only a main mass of 350 grams, which the > Smithsonian now has. > > Yours, > > Paul H. > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wethersfield Meteorites was "Qhestion"
Michael L Blood asked: "In 1971 a meteorite struck a hous in Wethersfield,Conn. As if that weren't enough, ANOTHER meteorite struck another house in that small town in 1982! I'm stoked. However, I have NEVER seen either of these falls available for sale. Has ANYONE on the list seen either/ both of these falls available for sale? Anyone have any?" The main mass of the 1982 fall is in the Peabody Museum of Natural History as noted in The Wethersfield Meteorite, Meteorites and Planetary Science, Peabody Museum of Natural History at: http://www.yale.edu/peabody/collections/met/index.html There was only 52 grams of fragments, which broke off of the 2.756 kg main mass. I suspect that these were consumed in the studies of the meteorite mentioned in the above article. The 1971 meteorite is owned by the Division of Meteorites of the Smithsonian Institution in Washington. From what I found, there was only a main mass of 350 grams, which the Smithsonian now has. Yours, Paul H. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wethersfield Meteorite - Part 4 of 4
DENNIS di CICCO (1983) Target Wethersfield - Wethersfield meteorite: The odds were astronomical (Sky & Telescope, 1983 Feb., pp 118-119): Dombrowski contacted several people who saw the fireball. He reports that Ted Pace, a former seafaring navigation officer from Mahwah, New Jersey, saw the meteor plunge almost straight down in the eastnortheast part of the sky. Through a window in his home at Marlborough, Massachusetts, Robert De Collibus viewed about three seconds of the meteor's flight. It appeared in the southwestern sky. Stan Hedden of Glastonbury, Connecticut, was out jogging about five miles from the meteorite's impact site when the entire sky appeared to light up. He looked up to see the fireball about 5° northwest of the zenith. It never appeared to move during his observation since it was flying almost directly at him! Between 30 and 50 seconds after he saw the fireball, Hedden heard what sounded like gunshots coming from the direction of Wethersfield. These and other reports, along with the orientation of the hole in the Donahue's roof, give a good indication of the meteorite's direction of travel. Menke and Charles Hammond, also of CCSC, believe the object approached from 25° off the vertical at an azimuth of 295° (west-northwest). It probably passed over Canaan, Connecticut, in the northwest part of the state, on its way to Wethersfield. Certainly one of the most outstanding aspects of the 1982 Wethersfield fall is the almost incalculable odds that two separate meteorites could strike houses in the same town. There are, however, several other cases of meteorites falling very close to one another. According to Ursula Marvin of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, a stony meteorite was found near the rim of Arizona's Meteor Crater, which is known to have been formed by an iron meteorite. Also, in Ontario, Canada, the Sudbury structure is believed by many to be an ancient meteorite impact feature. A much younger crater is superimposed on it. Thus, not only were there two falls in the same location, but they were large enough to leave enduring impact craters. What makes the pair of Wethersfield falls so special is how closely they are spaced in time. Only 11 years elapsed between the two whereas the earlier events were separated by thousands or even millions of years. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wethersfield Meteorite - Part 3 of 4
DENNIS di CICCO (1983) Target Wethersfield - Wethersfield meteorite: The odds were astronomical (Sky & Telescope, 1983 Feb., pp 118-119): A preliminary examination made at the Smithsonian revealed that the stone was an L6 chondrite (the most common type of meteorite found on Earth). Furthermore, it is almost identical in type to the one that hit Wethersfield in 1971. The main difference between them is that the earlier object showed more signs of having withstood violent shock due to preterrestrial impacting. The stone was shipped to John Evans of Battelle's Pacific Northwest Laboratories in Richland, Washington, where it was studied for the effects of cosmic-ray exposure while in space. In this way the meteorite was used as a probe to determine how cosmic-ray intensity within the solar system varies with time. As an aside, Evans notes that the radioisotope cobalt-60 was below detectable levels in the stone. From this he deduced that it was probably not part of a considerably larger body when it hit the Earth's atmosphere. The fireball associated with the meteorite's passage through the air was widely observed across New England, New York, and New Jersey. David Menke of the Central Connecticut State College (CCSC) Copernican Observatory collected eyewitness reports. In the days following the event he fielded hundreds of telephone calls from persons who saw the fireball. According to Menke, most observers claim that the object broke into three or more pieces during its flight. This gave rise to the speculation that more fragments might be located around Wethersfield. Also, the thin fusion crust suggests that the meteorite is part of a larger body that broke up in the atmosphere. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wethersfield Meteorite - Part 2 of 4
DENNIS di CICCO (1983) Target Wethersfield - Wethersfield meteorite: The odds were astronomical (Sky & Telescope, 1983 Feb., pp 118-119): Amateur astronomer Phil Dombrowski from the neighboring town of Glastonbury, was among the first astronomically oriented people to talk with the Donahues. He reports that the following took place. After hearing the crash, the Wethersfield couple rushed into the living room and discovered a hole in the ceiling and smoke and plaster dust filling the air. From outside they could see a hole in the roof. Still unaware of what caused the damage and suspecting a fire, they summoned police and fire personnel. About 10 minutes passed between the impact and the discovery of the meteorite under the dining room table, by a fireman who also initially identified its true nature. The stone, weighing just over 2.7 kilograms (almost six pounds), came through the roof and ceiling with such force that before coming to rest it bounced off a carpeted wooden floor; hit the dining room ceiling, dislodging more plaster; struck and overturned a small chair; and dented a wall. News traveled quickly, and by the next morning local newspapers and radio stations were carrying the story. Residents of Wethersfield, who recalled that a meteorite crashed through the roof of a house less than two miles from the Donahue home on April 8, 1971 (see this magazine for June, 1971, page 346), found the 1982 event quite plausible. Some scientists, however, were less inclined to accept immediately the remarkable coincidence. Roy Clarke of the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C., flew to Connecticut the day after the fall occurred and arranged to borrow the meteorite so that it could be properly analyzed. Although several chips, which broke off the main body on impact, were given to the Smithsonian and local colleges for study, the Donahues requested that the large meteorite not be further damaged. (As of mid-December they had not decided what they would ultimately do with it.) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wethersfield Meteorite - Part 1 of 4
Here is a picture of the house and the meteorite: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/hits/struckwethersfield.html -Walter - - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Wethersfield Meteorite - Part 1 of 4 > Hello Mark and List, > > There is a feature story in Sky & Telesxcope about the Wethersfield > meteorite and the meteorite can be seen "in person" on the cover of > this issue below: > > DENNIS di CICCO (1983) Target Wethersfield - Wethersfield meteorite: > The odds were astronomical (Sky & Telescope, 1983 Feb., pp 118-119): > > A sign on the outskirts of this suburb south of Hartford proclaims, 'Wethersfield, > Connecticut, first settled in 1634 as a trading post by John Oldham and associates.' > Residents may further tell you that it is one of the state's oldest communities. But > last November 8th the town acquired a far more notable status - in fact, one which > is unique in all the world. For the second time in less than a dozen years, a meteo- > rite not only fell there but crashed through the roof of a home. The chance of such > an occurrence is, well, just plain astronomical. > > It was about 9:15 p.m. Eastern standard time. Robert and Wanda Donahue were sitting > in the breezeway of their home watching 'M*A*S*H' on television when they heard a > muffled explosion in the front part of the house. It sounded 'like a truck coming > through the front door. > > > Best wishes, > > Bernd > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wethersfield Meteorite - Part 1 of 4
Hello Mark and List, There is a feature story in Sky & Telesxcope about the Wethersfield meteorite and the meteorite can be seen "in person" on the cover of this issue below: DENNIS di CICCO (1983) Target Wethersfield - Wethersfield meteorite: The odds were astronomical (Sky & Telescope, 1983 Feb., pp 118-119): A sign on the outskirts of this suburb south of Hartford proclaims, 'Wethersfield, Connecticut, first settled in 1634 as a trading post by John Oldham and associates.' Residents may further tell you that it is one of the state's oldest communities. But last November 8th the town acquired a far more notable status - in fact, one which is unique in all the world. For the second time in less than a dozen years, a meteo- rite not only fell there but crashed through the roof of a home. The chance of such an occurrence is, well, just plain astronomical. It was about 9:15 p.m. Eastern standard time. Robert and Wanda Donahue were sitting in the breezeway of their home watching 'M*A*S*H' on television when they heard a muffled explosion in the front part of the house. It sounded 'like a truck coming through the front door. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
