Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
Hi Adam and all, These incisions are both modern. This type of cattle never exisited on this continent in modern, or prehistoric times. Also the medium into which they were incised was never used in the South West for this type of art. The cattle are plainly Middle Eastern/Indo/Asian types. Horn position, width and length. Bramhan type body with hump and body length, weight, etc. etc. I must admit that they (assuming they are different works) are unique in their location and presentation. But, never the less show all indications of being tool made and modern representations, or reproductions. To acknowledge this animal as associated with any North American civilization would be to fly in the face of all we know about North American wild and domesticated cattle and their time of introduction. Count Deiro Nevada Museum of Art Center for Art + the Environment (the Deiro Collection) Reno, Nevada Board Member Emeritus-State of Nevada-Nevada Arts Council-National Endowment of the Arts. -Original Message- From: wahlperry--- via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Feb 17, 2015 9:12 PM To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hi Adam and List, Check out this rock art that we found while hiking in a remote area. The image seems to resemble the one in your picture. I wonder if they could be related. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Nevada_art.html -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Feb 17, 2015 5:14 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Interesting about the focus being put onto Native American cultures and the importance they place on meteorites. I am fortunate that my wife, who is 50% Cherokee Native American, shares similar interests to this day. She has never once complained about my fascination and spending on artifacts, meteorites and other collectables. She recently joked about collecting land. We will need it for the rock garden she has put together while spending a great deal of time with the new and improved Team LunarRock in the field.Below is an image of my wife admiring a famous and controversial 800 pound artifact that we purchased from the original finders and are storing among other collectables. Some of you may recognize this artifact from a documentary show dedicated a complete episode to the piece. I do not agree with the show host's interpretations, felt the urge to rescue it from his laboratory (studio) and purchased out from underneath them. Many of these shows have no respect for such things and are more concerned with shamelessly promoting themselves. I am onto a meteorite that weighs several times the amount of this artifact, is located on private property which is for sale and surrounded by lithic scatter meaning early man was drawn to it. It will definitely be a pallet buster like this piece!Link to an image of my wonderful wife and a recent acquisition:http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/ZannWithBullArtifact.jpgHapp y Hunting,Adam Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comTo: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:02 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hello Listers Enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com What's Happening; 2-18-15 Cottonwood Meteorite Added to Exhibit March 1-Aug. 31 The Verde Valley Archaeology Center located at 385 S. Main Street in Camp Verde will add the Cottonwood Meteorite to an exhibit running from March 1 to Aug. 31. The loan of these meteorites from the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies was arranged with the cooperation of Dr. Lawrence Garvie, Research Professor at the ASU School of Earth Space Exploration. The Center will be hosting Dr. Garvie for a free talk on meteorites on March 3, at 7 p.m., in the Phillip England Center for the Performing Arts, 210 Camp Lincoln Road in Camp Verde. The Center will also give monthly talks on the importance and uses of meteorites among ancient Native American cultures during the span of the exhibit. Visit verdevalleyarchaeology.org or call (928) 567-0066 for more information. Source: http://cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=74SubSectionID=114ArticleID=45361 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
Thanks for posting that picture Sonny, I found it very interesting. Took me back forty years in a flash to another long gone part of my life. Jim On Tue, 2/17/15, wahlperry--- via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 9:12 PM Hi Adam and List, Check out this rock art that we found while hiking in a remote area. The image seems to resemble the one in your picture. I wonder if they could be related. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Nevada_art.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
Hello, Adam and All.. Does anyone know the legality of a Native American being able to gather and sell meteorites found on a reservation? Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Interesting about the focus being put onto Native American cultures and the importance they place on meteorites. I am fortunate that my wife, who is 50% Cherokee Native American, shares similar interests to this day. She has never once complained about my fascination and spending on artifacts, meteorites and other collectables. She recently joked about collecting land. We will need it for the rock garden she has put together while spending a great deal of time with the new and improved Team LunarRock in the field. Below is an image of my wife admiring a famous and controversial 800 pound artifact that we purchased from the original finders and are storing among other collectables. Some of you may recognize this artifact from a documentary show dedicated a complete episode to the piece. I do not agree with the show host's interpretations, felt the urge to rescue it from his laboratory (studio) and purchased out from underneath them. Many of these shows have no respect for such things and are more concerned with shamelessly promoting themselves. I am onto a meteorite that weighs several times the amount of this artifact, is located on private property which is for sale and surrounded by lithic scatter meaning early man was drawn to it. It will definitely be a pallet buster like this piece! Link to an image of my wonderful wife and a recent acquisition: http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/ZannWithBullArtifact.jpg Happy Hunting, Adam Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hello Listers Enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com What's Happening; 2-18-15 Cottonwood Meteorite Added to Exhibit March 1-Aug. 31 The Verde Valley Archaeology Center located at 385 S. Main Street in Camp Verde will add the Cottonwood Meteorite to an exhibit running from March 1 to Aug. 31. The loan of these meteorites from the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies was arranged with the cooperation of Dr. Lawrence Garvie, Research Professor at the ASU School of Earth Space Exploration. The Center will be hosting Dr. Garvie for a free talk on meteorites on March 3, at 7 p.m., in the Phillip England Center for the Performing Arts, 210 Camp Lincoln Road in Camp Verde. The Center will also give monthly talks on the importance and uses of meteorites among ancient Native American cultures during the span of the exhibit. Visit verdevalleyarchaeology.org or call (928) 567-0066 for more information. Source: http://cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=74SubSectionID=114ArticleID=45361 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
Completely agree, these are modern fakes. That style is Sumerian, Iran, Iraq. Thousands of years bc. Not anything ever seen or described here. Michael Michael Farmer On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Count Deiro via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hi Adam and all, These incisions are both modern. This type of cattle never exisited on this continent in modern, or prehistoric times. Also the medium into which they were incised was never used in the South West for this type of art. The cattle are plainly Middle Eastern/Indo/Asian types. Horn position, width and length. Bramhan type body with hump and body length, weight, etc. etc. I must admit that they (assuming they are different works) are unique in their location and presentation. But, never the less show all indications of being tool made and modern representations, or reproductions. To acknowledge this animal as associated with any North American civilization would be to fly in the face of all we know about North American wild and domesticated cattle and their time of introduction. Count Deiro Nevada Museum of Art Center for Art + the Environment (the Deiro Collection) Reno, Nevada Board Member Emeritus-State of Nevada-Nevada Arts Council-National Endowment of the Arts. -Original Message- From: wahlperry--- via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Feb 17, 2015 9:12 PM To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hi Adam and List, Check out this rock art that we found while hiking in a remote area. The image seems to resemble the one in your picture. I wonder if they could be related. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Nevada_art.html -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Feb 17, 2015 5:14 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Interesting about the focus being put onto Native American cultures and the importance they place on meteorites. I am fortunate that my wife, who is 50% Cherokee Native American, shares similar interests to this day. She has never once complained about my fascination and spending on artifacts, meteorites and other collectables. She recently joked about collecting land. We will need it for the rock garden she has put together while spending a great deal of time with the new and improved Team LunarRock in the field.Below is an image of my wife admiring a famous and controversial 800 pound artifact that we purchased from the original finders and are storing among other collectables. Some of you may recognize this artifact from a documentary show dedicated a complete episode to the piece. I do not agree with the show host's interpretations, felt the urge to rescue it from his laboratory (studio) and purchased out from underneath them. Many of these shows have no respect for such things and are more concerned with shamelessly promoting themselves. I am onto a meteorite that weighs several times the amount of this artifact, is located on private property which is for sale and surrounded by lithic scatter meaning early man was drawn to it. It will definitely be a pallet buster like this piece!Link to an image of my wonderful wife and a recent acquisition:http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/ZannWithBullArtifact.jpgHapp y Hunting,Adam Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comTo: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:02 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hello Listers Enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com What's Happening; 2-18-15 Cottonwood Meteorite Added to Exhibit March 1-Aug. 31 The Verde Valley Archaeology Center located at 385 S. Main Street in Camp Verde will add the Cottonwood Meteorite to an exhibit running from March 1 to Aug. 31. The loan of these meteorites from the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies was arranged with the cooperation of Dr. Lawrence Garvie, Research Professor at the ASU School of Earth Space Exploration. The Center will be hosting Dr. Garvie for a free talk on meteorites on March 3, at 7 p.m., in the Phillip England Center for the Performing Arts, 210 Camp Lincoln Road in Camp Verde. The Center will also give monthly talks on the importance and uses of meteorites among ancient Native American cultures during the span of the exhibit. Visit verdevalleyarchaeology.org or call (928) 567-0066 for more information. Source: http://cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=74SubSectionID=114ArticleID=45361
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
The meteorite belongs to whoever owns the land it is found on here in the United States. The issue with Indian reservations are that they are federally controlled so the meteorites cannot be used for commercial purposes without permits which are unobtainable. I have been researching properties for some time and found that a patented deed is the only type of property here in the United States that carries unbreakable supreme ownership rights. California has been trying for over a century to control (tax) patented land but has lost every case in supreme court. Any government will have to make a treaty with patented land owners otherwise they have no control whatsoever over the land including taxation or easements. I think Indian reservations should be patented! Adam .. - Original Message - From: Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com To: Raremeteorites raremeteori...@centurylink.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hello, Adam and All.. Does anyone know the legality of a Native American being able to gather and sell meteorites found on a reservation? Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Interesting about the focus being put onto Native American cultures and the importance they place on meteorites. I am fortunate that my wife, who is 50% Cherokee Native American, shares similar interests to this day. She has never once complained about my fascination and spending on artifacts, meteorites and other collectables. She recently joked about collecting land. We will need it for the rock garden she has put together while spending a great deal of time with the new and improved Team LunarRock in the field. Below is an image of my wife admiring a famous and controversial 800 pound artifact that we purchased from the original finders and are storing among other collectables. Some of you may recognize this artifact from a documentary show dedicated a complete episode to the piece. I do not agree with the show host's interpretations, felt the urge to rescue it from his laboratory (studio) and purchased out from underneath them. Many of these shows have no respect for such things and are more concerned with shamelessly promoting themselves. I am onto a meteorite that weighs several times the amount of this artifact, is located on private property which is for sale and surrounded by lithic scatter meaning early man was drawn to it. It will definitely be a pallet buster like this piece! Link to an image of my wonderful wife and a recent acquisition: http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/ZannWithBullArtifact.jpg Happy Hunting, Adam Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hello Listers Enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com What's Happening; 2-18-15 Cottonwood Meteorite Added to Exhibit March 1-Aug. 31 The Verde Valley Archaeology Center located at 385 S. Main Street in Camp Verde will add the Cottonwood Meteorite to an exhibit running from March 1 to Aug. 31. The loan of these meteorites from the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies was arranged with the cooperation of Dr. Lawrence Garvie, Research Professor at the ASU School of Earth Space Exploration. The Center will be hosting Dr. Garvie for a free talk on meteorites on March 3, at 7 p.m., in the Phillip England Center for the Performing Arts, 210 Camp Lincoln Road in Camp Verde. The Center will also give monthly talks on the importance and uses of meteorites among ancient Native American cultures during the span of the exhibit. Visit verdevalleyarchaeology.org or call (928) 567-0066 for more information. Source: http://cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=74SubSectionID=114ArticleID=45361 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
Interesting about the focus being put onto Native American cultures and the importance they place on meteorites. I am fortunate that my wife, who is 50% Cherokee Native American, shares similar interests to this day. She has never once complained about my fascination and spending on artifacts, meteorites and other collectables. She recently joked about collecting land. We will need it for the rock garden she has put together while spending a great deal of time with the new and improved Team LunarRock in the field. Below is an image of my wife admiring a famous and controversial 800 pound artifact that we purchased from the original finders and are storing among other collectables. Some of you may recognize this artifact from a documentary show dedicated a complete episode to the piece. I do not agree with the show host's interpretations, felt the urge to rescue it from his laboratory (studio) and purchased out from underneath them. Many of these shows have no respect for such things and are more concerned with shamelessly promoting themselves. I am onto a meteorite that weighs several times the amount of this artifact, is located on private property which is for sale and surrounded by lithic scatter meaning early man was drawn to it. It will definitely be a pallet buster like this piece! Link to an image of my wonderful wife and a recent acquisition: http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/ZannWithBullArtifact.jpg Happy Hunting, Adam Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hello Listers Enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com What's Happening; 2-18-15 Cottonwood Meteorite Added to Exhibit March 1-Aug. 31 The Verde Valley Archaeology Center located at 385 S. Main Street in Camp Verde will add the Cottonwood Meteorite to an exhibit running from March 1 to Aug. 31. The loan of these meteorites from the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies was arranged with the cooperation of Dr. Lawrence Garvie, Research Professor at the ASU School of Earth Space Exploration. The Center will be hosting Dr. Garvie for a free talk on meteorites on March 3, at 7 p.m., in the Phillip England Center for the Performing Arts, 210 Camp Lincoln Road in Camp Verde. The Center will also give monthly talks on the importance and uses of meteorites among ancient Native American cultures during the span of the exhibit. Visit verdevalleyarchaeology.org or call (928) 567-0066 for more information. Source: http://cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=74SubSectionID=114ArticleID=45361 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
Hello Listers Enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com What's Happening; 2-18-15 Cottonwood Meteorite Added to Exhibit March 1-Aug. 31 The Verde Valley Archaeology Center located at 385 S. Main Street in Camp Verde will add the Cottonwood Meteorite to an exhibit running from March 1 to Aug. 31. The loan of these meteorites from the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies was arranged with the cooperation of Dr. Lawrence Garvie, Research Professor at the ASU School of Earth Space Exploration. The Center will be hosting Dr. Garvie for a free talk on meteorites on March 3, at 7 p.m., in the Phillip England Center for the Performing Arts, 210 Camp Lincoln Road in Camp Verde. The Center will also give monthly talks on the importance and uses of meteorites among ancient Native American cultures during the span of the exhibit. Visit verdevalleyarchaeology.org or call (928) 567-0066 for more information. Source: http://cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=74SubSectionID=114ArticleID=45361 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15
Hi Adam and List, Check out this rock art that we found while hiking in a remote area. The image seems to resemble the one in your picture. I wonder if they could be related. Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Nevada_art.html -Original Message- From: Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Feb 17, 2015 5:14 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Interesting about the focus being put onto Native American cultures and the importance they place on meteorites. I am fortunate that my wife, who is 50% Cherokee Native American, shares similar interests to this day. She has never once complained about my fascination and spending on artifacts, meteorites and other collectables. She recently joked about collecting land. We will need it for the rock garden she has put together while spending a great deal of time with the new and improved Team LunarRock in the field.Below is an image of my wife admiring a famous and controversial 800 pound artifact that we purchased from the original finders and are storing among other collectables. Some of you may recognize this artifact from a documentary show dedicated a complete episode to the piece. I do not agree with the show host's interpretations, felt the urge to rescue it from his laboratory (studio) and purchased out from underneath them. Many of these shows have no respect for such things and are more concerned with shamelessly promoting themselves. I am onto a meteorite that weighs several times the amount of this artifact, is located on private property which is for sale and surrounded by lithic scatter meaning early man was drawn to it. It will definitely be a pallet buster like this piece!Link to an image of my wonderful wife and a recent acquisition:http://themeteoritesite.com/adam/ZannWithBullArtifact.jpgHapp y Hunting,Adam Original Message - From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comTo: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:02 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] What's Happening; 2-18-15 Hello Listers Enjoy Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com What's Happening; 2-18-15 Cottonwood Meteorite Added to Exhibit March 1-Aug. 31 The Verde Valley Archaeology Center located at 385 S. Main Street in Camp Verde will add the Cottonwood Meteorite to an exhibit running from March 1 to Aug. 31. The loan of these meteorites from the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies was arranged with the cooperation of Dr. Lawrence Garvie, Research Professor at the ASU School of Earth Space Exploration. The Center will be hosting Dr. Garvie for a free talk on meteorites on March 3, at 7 p.m., in the Phillip England Center for the Performing Arts, 210 Camp Lincoln Road in Camp Verde. The Center will also give monthly talks on the importance and uses of meteorites among ancient Native American cultures during the span of the exhibit. Visit verdevalleyarchaeology.org or call (928) 567-0066 for more information. Source: http://cvbugle.com/main.asp?SectionID=74SubSectionID=114ArticleID=45361 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.comMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman /listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
