Re: [meteorite-list] William Barriere - Youth of Canada be warned!

2008-07-23 Thread Martin Altmann
Interesting, in which way?

Seems someone in the Chicago Field hasn't made his homework.  
Chicago has such an important collection only, because they bought as start
all specimens, which the mightiest meteorite dealer in USA of his times
brought to the Columbian exhibition in 1893. Henry Ward, was his name.

In 1912 Chicago Field outbid the Smithonian and AMNH in New York,
and purchased dealer Ward's collection from his widow for inflation-adjusted
1.8 million USD.

And of course in the following decades they enlarged the collection also in
buying from dealers too.

At least they aren't as rotten as docteure Julia in the comic strip,
wangling innocent children out of their finds  - cause I read, the Chicago
Field bought 2.7kg of Park Forest, paying to the finders 30k$.

Didn't follow that story, but wasn't that T-Rex, the main exhibit, which the
Field museum bought for 8 million or so, recovered by a dealers company too?
And Dinos are a much more sensible complex than meteorites.

Well and the famous instrument collection from the Adler Planetarium,
certainly items of a cultural heritage according the modern conception,
hence much more problematic than stones from space,
Max Adler bought naturally from a dealer, Anton Mensing.

It is and it always was the practise of all museums no matter which field of
collection they plough to amass their collections by donations, direct or
monetary ones, and by purchases from dealers.

So I'm asking, this dealer bashing and the call for - in the end one might
call it in extreme expropriation of owners or finders or dealers - a
relatively problematic intervention in the personal basic rights at least in
states under the rule of laws -
is this meanwhile commonplace or the opinion of a very few, whatever their
intention may be?

Martin



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The very picture of Park Forest.

The Alder Planetarium and Chicago Field Museum warning the public about 
dealers

The dealers riding in with fists full of cash.

Rob Wesel
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Re: [meteorite-list] William Barriere - Youth of Canada be warned!

2008-07-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Yah but Rob,

every reader expects that happy end:

The final big surprise, that docteure Julia comes and rewards Thomas with
the video game and Marie-Noelle with the trip to Egypt (and the dog with a
bone) for their unselfish decision to have donated the stone to the museum.
But?  Nothing!
Not very encouraging..

And mean Mr. Barriere is much more honest than docteure Julia.
She is pushy, she plays on the heart strings and at the end she even
presents the instrument of torture (why she and not Barriere has such a
mineral saw..?),
while Barriere says only: This is what you get, you have all the time to
think about, to come to a decision.


But at least now I know, why I saw so many stretch limousines in the streets
of Tucson: Those were all meteorite collectors

Martin




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So happy they were to see their name in the museum.

The only inconsistency I saw was that there was only one collector after 
them and they took the first offer.

Rob Wesel
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[meteorite-list] William Barriere - Youth of Canada be warned!

2008-07-21 Thread Martin Altmann

That is almost unreal.

http://www.meteorites.bw.qc.ca/meteorites1/index.html

Press: recommencer... and then enjoy.

I'm curios about your opinion.

Martin

Now I have to read the second adventure... 

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Re: [meteorite-list] William Barriere - Youth of Canada be warned!

2008-07-21 Thread Nicholas Gessler

My French is not that good and I didn't have time to click through
the whole story, but what I did see looked great!!!
Congratulations to the authors and artists!!!
Nick

At 12:36 PM 7/21/2008, Martin Altmann wrote:


That is almost unreal.
http://www.meteorites.bw.qc.ca/meteorites1/index.html
Press: recommencer... and then enjoy.
I'm curios about your opinion.
Martin
Now I have to read the second adventure...
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Re: [meteorite-list] William Barriere - Youth of Canada be warned!

2008-07-21 Thread Martin Altmann
Hehe, Nick, 

Good that you haven't clicked through the whole story.
Such a style of propaganda I saw the last time in Romania,
where a Christian sect distributed comic booklets,
of really rude contents. (Family the same, Mother Father Sun Daughter
Dog).


Hehe, anti-propaganda,

I just finished the plot for the next adventure.

Marie-Noelle and Thomas accompany docteure Julia on an expedition to desert.
They are captured by terrorists but are affranchised by the intrepid Pelican
brothers and their funny cook Amoroso.
Altogether they continue the travel and meet two rachitic nomad children,
who have found a meteorite each. Julia explains to the children, how
important their recovery would be and that she immediately have start to
cry, if they wouldn't hand over the stones to her.
The children are dismayed, hand over the stones and for making Julia smiling
again, they show them the way to a mysterious treasure cave.
The Pelicans roll the rock, blocking the entrance, aside

Inside mountains of meteorites are hoarded
Three 200 years old Guardians with long beards raise their heads.
Their names are Logan, Ward, Nininger.

Thomas and Amoroso manage to slay the guardians,
Julia organizes the transport of the stones,
and promises to the nomad children,
that their names will be eternalized on a label on a showcase in the Museum.
And happily they return to Canada.

Epilog.

- Marie-Noelle and Thomas, who had quit school to accompany docteure Julia
in the name of science,
have to hire out as cleaning personnel in the private collection of
heartless William Barriere.

- Docteure Julia wins the Nobel prize, cause she had discovered some Martian
fossils in the stones of the nomad children.

- A messenger delivers a photo of the plate with the names of the children
in the museum to their mother, who is now happy again.
(as the children died a while ago, cause they couldn't afford medication).







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Inspiring indeed! I just had a try and threw my Tafassasset-slice on the 
surface of a little lake nearby - it flipped only twice :-(

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 That is almost unreal.

 http://www.meteorites.bw.qc.ca/meteorites1/index.html

 Press: recommencer... and then enjoy.

 I'm curios about your opinion.

 Martin

 Now I have to read the second adventure...

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Re: [meteorite-list] William Barriere - Youth of Canada be warned!

2008-07-21 Thread Rob Wesel

So happy they were to see their name in the museum.

The only inconsistency I saw was that there was only one collector after 
them and they took the first offer.


Rob Wesel
http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
--
We are the music makers...
and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971



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That is almost unreal.

http://www.meteorites.bw.qc.ca/meteorites1/index.html

Press: recommencer... and then enjoy.

I'm curios about your opinion.

Martin

Now I have to read the second adventure...

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