[meteorite-list] Zaklodzie and TKW's

2009-01-14 Thread Zelimir Gabelica

Thanks Macrin,

Very interesting regarding Zaklodzie!
The next question that soon comes in mind: was this unweathered portion of 
the meteoirite the one that was analyzed for its type 
determination/classification ??


Thanks for the TKW's.
My data come from A to Z.
The Met. Bull. data (I simply forgot looking) apparently should be the only 
reliable so far. Set aside for correction of the next edition (Mike ?), 
though A to Z often mentions higher weights (respectively 999+ kg 
(Brahin) and 300+ kg (Chinga).

Has somebody (from Russia ?) more recent data on these two TKW's ?

For example, I have heard from a semi-reliable (but local!) source that 
Gibeon's TKW is...over 120 tons! (real competitor for Campo!).


Best,

Zelimir



A 14:14 14/01/2009 +0100, Marcin Cimala - PolandMET a écrit :

Excellent pics of the main mass Marcin!

===
Thank You :D
I forgot about this photos for a while.

2 questions:

1) is the tan-white area containing the metal islands of eucritic type ?


No
This is just perfect example of weathering. Especially full slice but also 
main mass with his tiny white dot in center, showing very sharp zones of 
weathering approaching from outside to inside. So oryginaly Zaklodzie was 
perfect WHITE! Thats why this last full slice is soo importand becouse 
contain fresh, not weathered material. In the remaining main mass ~5kg 
there is propably no more of this material deep inside specimen.
Another interesting feature in full slice is top right area above iron 
core. There are several graphite globules in iron !


2) From which source do you know that the TKW of Brahin and Chinga are
respectively 823 Kg and about 200 Kg ?

=
Met Soc website say
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php
Chinga TKW 209.4 kg
Brahin TKW 823 kg


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Re: [meteorite-list] Zaklodzie and TKW's

2009-01-14 Thread Marcin Cimala - PolandMET

Thanks Macrin,

Very interesting regarding Zaklodzie!
The next question that soon comes in mind: was this unweathered portion of
the meteoirite the one that was analyzed for its type
determination/classification ??


I dont know this, but If I could be scientist, I will like to use this fresh 
part for tests. Im sure that not for all tests this was importand how 
weathered is material. But I know that this white center was well tested. 
This large iron in center also was etched.



Thanks for the TKW's.
My data come from A to Z.


===
You know, TKW is not most importand here and for sure impossible to get it 
even close to real weight. With large finds like this we know its hundreds 
of kilos, so better mark it as TKW=large :)


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Re: [meteorite-list] Zaklodzie and TKW's

2009-01-14 Thread tracy latimer

That unweathered inner part of Zaklodzie had very distinct edges; I was also 
surprised to see the (relatively) huge metal blebs in the slices.  I would 
think that there would be an area of most weathering closest to the exterior, 
and a more graduated progression as the elements slowly seeped into the 
interior, rather than a discrete 'core', which looked very eucrite-ish.  Is 
there any chance that this was an anomalous piece of Zaklodzie with an 
inclusion?  What created such a clear boundary?
 
Tracy Latimer


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 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:05:03 +0100
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Zaklodzie and TKW's

 Thanks Macrin,

 Very interesting regarding Zaklodzie!
 The next question that soon comes in mind: was this unweathered portion of
 the meteoirite the one that was analyzed for its type
 determination/classification ??

 
 I dont know this, but If I could be scientist, I will like to use this fresh
 part for tests. Im sure that not for all tests this was importand how
 weathered is material. But I know that this white center was well tested.
 This large iron in center also was etched.


 Thanks for the TKW's.
 My data come from A to Z.
 

 ===
 You know, TKW is not most importand here and for sure impossible to get it
 even close to real weight. With large finds like this we know its hundreds
 of kilos, so better mark it as TKW=large :)

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Re: [meteorite-list] Zaklodzie and TKW's

2009-01-14 Thread Marcin Cimala - PolandMET
That unweathered inner part of Zaklodzie had very distinct edges; I was also 
surprised to see the (relatively) huge metal blebs in the slices.  I would 
think that there would be an area of most weathering closest to the 
exterior, and a more graduated progression as the elements slowly seeped 
into the interior, rather than a discrete 'core', which looked very 
eucrite-ish.  Is there any chance that this was an anomalous piece of 
Zaklodzie with an inclusion?  What created such a clear boundary?


Tracy Latimer


Hi
I think that the most competent answer You will find here.

Przylibski  T. A. et al.
The Zaklodzie enstatite meteorite: Mineralogy, petrology, origin and 
classification,

/Meteoritics and Planetary Science /40, Nr 9, A185-A200 (2005).

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