Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies

2008-12-04 Thread Tom Randall (KB2SMS)


I am SO glad I ditched windows 10 years ago.

I.E. is a POS. Use firefox.

Congrats to the new Canadian fall!


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[meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies

2008-12-02 Thread Greg Hupe

Dear List Members,

I was just cruising around eBay for about five minutes and my Internet 
Explorer popped up a message reading:
To help protect your security, Internet Explorer blocked this site from 
downloading files to your computer. Click here for options...


This pretty much confirms what I and others have said at the beginning of 
this thread, eBay IS downloading Spyware and Cookies on our computers. Looks 
like eBay wants to become Big Brother as well as a monopoly!!


Be sure to run your Spyware and other software programs to rid your 
computers of their junk!


Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
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NaturesVault (eBay)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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IMCA 3163

Click here for my current eBay auctions: 
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault





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Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies

2008-12-02 Thread mckinney trammell
wow. www.safernetworking.com for spybot SD free downloads. just ran it, though 
AFTER ebay use and no immed. threats found?


--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:24 PM
 Dear List Members,
 
 I was just cruising around eBay for about five minutes and
 my Internet Explorer popped up a message reading:
 To help protect your security, Internet Explorer
 blocked this site from downloading files to your computer.
 Click here for options...
 
 This pretty much confirms what I and others have said at
 the beginning of this thread, eBay IS downloading Spyware
 and Cookies on our computers. Looks like eBay wants to
 become Big Brother as well as a monopoly!!
 
 Be sure to run your Spyware and other software programs to
 rid your computers of their junk!
 
 Best regards,
 Greg
 
 
 Greg Hupe
 The Hupe Collection
 NaturesVault (eBay)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.LunarRock.com
 IMCA 3163
 
 Click here for my current eBay auctions:
 http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies

2008-12-02 Thread Chris Peterson
There is no mechanism on a properly configured browser for a website to 
download software to your computer without your active consent. If you are 
using Internet Explorer (why would you?) it is possible to override the 
default setting and allow websites to quietly load ActiveX applications. But 
if you have your browser configured that way, eBay should be the least of 
your worries!


Of course eBay uses cookies. Nearly every site does, and in the case of eBay 
they are essential to proper operation. If you are paranoid, you can always 
tell your browser to treat any eBay cookie as session only, meaning 
they'll get automatically deleted when you shut down.


Chris

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- Original Message - 
From: mckinney trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies


wow. www.safernetworking.com for spybot SD free downloads. just ran it, 
though AFTER ebay use and no immed. threats found?



--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:24 PM
Dear List Members,

I was just cruising around eBay for about five minutes and
my Internet Explorer popped up a message reading:
To help protect your security, Internet Explorer
blocked this site from downloading files to your computer.
Click here for options...

This pretty much confirms what I and others have said at
the beginning of this thread, eBay IS downloading Spyware
and Cookies on our computers. Looks like eBay wants to
become Big Brother as well as a monopoly!!

Be sure to run your Spyware and other software programs to
rid your computers of their junk!

Best regards,
Greg


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Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies

2008-12-02 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:50:00 -0700, you wrote:

There is no mechanism on a properly configured browser for a website to 
download software to your computer without your active consent. 

There is not an OS or browser avaiable that does not have security holes.  Not
only that, but there are multiple other applications that can be used to infect
your system.  Some known, but the ones you have to worry about are the ones that
aren't known yet.  You have a false sense of security.

News from today:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/240255/apple-recommends-security-software-for-mac-owners.html

from a week back:

http://goodgearguide.com.au/article/268492

from a month back:

http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=6715

others:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1733

Jpegs?  Not always safe.

http://www.secureworks.com/research/threats/jpegvirus/

Video?  Not always safe.

http://ask-leo.com/can_i_get_a_virus_or_spyware_from_a_free_video_download.html

Just because YOU can't imagine a way to get a virus/trojan/spyware into your
computer doesn't mean that someone else can't imagine a way to get a
virus/trojan/spyware into your computer.
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Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies

2008-12-02 Thread Chris Peterson
Serious security holes are increasingly rare, and increasingly being fixed 
before exploits appear. They don't represent a very big threat for people 
who keep their systems up-to-date and exercise a bit of common sense. In the 
context of this discussion, I am doubtful in the extreme that eBay is 
exploiting an unknown security hole to download software to their users' 
computers.


Chris

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- Original Message - 
From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies



On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:50:00 -0700, you wrote:


There is no mechanism on a properly configured browser for a website to
download software to your computer without your active consent.


There is not an OS or browser avaiable that does not have security holes. 
Not
only that, but there are multiple other applications that can be used to 
infect
your system.  Some known, but the ones you have to worry about are the 
ones that

aren't known yet.  You have a false sense of security.

News from today:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/240255/apple-recommends-security-software-for-mac-owners.html

from a week back:

http://goodgearguide.com.au/article/268492

from a month back:

http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=6715

others:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1733

Jpegs?  Not always safe.

http://www.secureworks.com/research/threats/jpegvirus/

Video?  Not always safe.

http://ask-leo.com/can_i_get_a_virus_or_spyware_from_a_free_video_download.html

Just because YOU can't imagine a way to get a virus/trojan/spyware into 
your

computer doesn't mean that someone else can't imagine a way to get a
virus/trojan/spyware into your computer.


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Re: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies

2008-12-02 Thread Chris Peterson
Tagasaurus is simple malware. It has no way to install itself on a properly 
configured system. You need to download and run something carrying it. In 
this respect it is no different from most other malware. Doubleclick and 
Mediaplex do not download executable code to your computer. All they do is 
set tracking cookies that are used to analyze your traffic patterns. They 
are harmless, but you may nevertheless consider them a violation of privacy. 
If so, it is trivial in any browser to either block those cookies, or 
convert them to session cookies.


There is a big difference between setting a cookie and downloading some kind 
of monitoring software! If eBay were actually doing the latter, it would be 
all over the news.


Chris

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- Original Message - 
From: harlan trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] eBay's Spyware and Cookies



hitbox, tagasaurus, doubleclick, mediaplex, etc. ALL with AUTOMATICALLY 
UPLOAD themselves w/o your consent. they will reside in your unit until you 
discover+delete them.


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