Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite hunting in Western Australia
Museum??? I thought that the right place for those things was ebay. Scratch, scratch... AA - Original Message - From: Göran Axelsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite hunting in Western Australia Thanks for all the tips about Western Australian meteorites and tektites. I haven't answered most of the mails I got, I'm a bit sporadically connected to the net while on the road but I read all and appreciate them. I have taken your advice in consideration. Advices ranged from you are not allowed to touch them to Strange rocks are okay to collect... even from one of the staff of the Perth Museum. Put it in your pocket and don't tell anyone was his reply... and then he laughed, I've been in the desert all my life and I've never seen a meteorite. Good luck! I will still go east to see Kalgoorlie and the mining towns in the desert. I will hunt for some australites and see if I can find any good mineral collecting places. Dig for some gold and just have a nice time. If I happens to stumble onto a suspected meteorite then I have to decide if I just leave it or bring it back to the museum. So far none have been able to cite the law so all I have is advice... guess it all boils down to common sense. I have a GPS, extra batteries, zip lock bags and a pen to mark the bags. So if I happens to find a meteorite then I can take good care of it and deliver it to the museum. /Goran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite hunting in Western Australia
Thanks for all the tips about Western Australian meteorites and tektites. I haven't answered most of the mails I got, I'm a bit sporadically connected to the net while on the road but I read all and appreciate them. I have taken your advice in consideration. Advices ranged from you are not allowed to touch them to Strange rocks are okay to collect... even from one of the staff of the Perth Museum. Put it in your pocket and don't tell anyone was his reply... and then he laughed, I've been in the desert all my life and I've never seen a meteorite. Good luck! I will still go east to see Kalgoorlie and the mining towns in the desert. I will hunt for some australites and see if I can find any good mineral collecting places. Dig for some gold and just have a nice time. If I happens to stumble onto a suspected meteorite then I have to decide if I just leave it or bring it back to the museum. So far none have been able to cite the law so all I have is advice... guess it all boils down to common sense. I have a GPS, extra batteries, zip lock bags and a pen to mark the bags. So if I happens to find a meteorite then I can take good care of it and deliver it to the museum. /Goran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite hunting in Western Australia
Hi and thanks for the answer! I was aware of the export laws and had no intention of bringing any meteorite back home without permit. But that it belongs to the government in WA was a surprise. How could there be so many Millbillillies around with that law? Is it a new interpretation or a new law? If (big if) I would find a meteorite where should I leave it? I just want to test my luck and finally find a meteorite myself, if it ends up in a museum that is fine with me. I still have a few days before I go out in the wild... well, I decided to not stray too far out from the main roads, it should be enough round to cover for this vacation anyhow. /Goran Norbert Heike Kammel wrote: Hi Goeran/List, just a quick note to remind you that Federal laws protect meteorites found in Australia and it is an offence to export one without a permit. *In Western Australia and South Australia legislation means that meteorites are the property of the Government and must be lodged with an appropriate Museum.* In other States, the finder is able to keep a meteorite. Also please keep in mind that the areas are VERY remote and not so easy accessable. It is advisable to travel at least with two relyable 4WD's, one driver experienced in Outback travelling. Even though it is now winter time and often rainy carry enough water and food in case you get bogged. Also a SatPhone or HF Radio would be adviseable to carry. The better fields are more east from Kalgoolie, like the Camel Donga strewnfield, in the Nullarbor Plain. Anyway, Welcome to Australia, and have a great time. Best regards from Down-Under, Norbert Kammel IMCA # 3420 Göran Axelsson wrote: Hi list! I'm currently sitting 50 meters from the Indian Ocean and planning my vacation in Australia. In about a week I will have a lot of free time and I wanted to spend one week hunting for meteorites here in western Australia. I know that I probably can't bring any stones back home but I still want to hunt. Is there any good places to hunt between Perth and Kalgoorlie or in that area? Any other places in Western Australia that I should visit? Is there any description of the meteorite field in Camel Donga? That is an area I would like to spend a couple of days in. Any other tips for me? Apart from meteorite hunting, I'm invited to a wedding and I'm going to hunt for gold so I have my metal detector with me. /Göran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite hunting in Western Australia
Hi Goeran, unfortunately the laws governing the ownership of meteorites in Australia are quite different in each of our States and Territories. In Western Australia when you find a _meteorite_ it belongs to the State and you should hand it in at the Perth museum, but I assume that quite a few people have found interesting looking _rocks_ (perhaps looking and feeling quite what others consider being meteorites), but as not being an expert, these people just pic it up as interesting rocks and keep them, what is quite legal. However, it would be an offense if they later sell these _rocks_ as Australian _meteorites_. You know what I mean? I guess that's where most of the Millbillillie's come from. However, for a lot of Australian meteorites which are adequately represented in Australian institutions you will get a letter of clearance from the museum. These blokes are not too bad at all, but they also have to abide to the rules and police the law. So, Mate, I assume you will _not go meteorite hunting_ but _go out fossicking for unusual rocks_. And I hope you'll find some really nice one's. And if you find on this trip some new and really interesting meteorites, even martian or some from Venus etc. please leave them where you saw them so that others will have the same pleasure as you. Or not. :-\ All the very best Goeran, hope you have a great time. And take care out there. Best regards from Down-Under, Norbert Kammel IMCA # 3420 Göran Axelsson wrote: Hi and thanks for the answer! I was aware of the export laws and had no intention of bringing any meteorite back home without permit. But that it belongs to the government in WA was a surprise. How could there be so many Millbillillies around with that law? Is it a new interpretation or a new law? If (big if) I would find a meteorite where should I leave it? I just want to test my luck and finally find a meteorite myself, if it ends up in a museum that is fine with me. I still have a few days before I go out in the wild... well, I decided to not stray too far out from the main roads, it should be enough round to cover for this vacation anyhow. /Goran Norbert Heike Kammel wrote: Hi Goeran/List, just a quick note to remind you that Federal laws protect meteorites found in Australia and it is an offence to export one without a permit. *In Western Australia and South Australia legislation means that meteorites are the property of the Government and must be lodged with an appropriate Museum.* In other States, the finder is able to keep a meteorite. Also please keep in mind that the areas are VERY remote and not so easy accessable. It is advisable to travel at least with two relyable 4WD's, one driver experienced in Outback travelling. Even though it is now winter time and often rainy carry enough water and food in case you get bogged. Also a SatPhone or HF Radio would be adviseable to carry. The better fields are more east from Kalgoolie, like the Camel Donga strewnfield, in the Nullarbor Plain. Anyway, Welcome to Australia, and have a great time. Best regards from Down-Under, Norbert Kammel IMCA # 3420 Göran Axelsson wrote: Hi list! I'm currently sitting 50 meters from the Indian Ocean and planning my vacation in Australia. In about a week I will have a lot of free time and I wanted to spend one week hunting for meteorites here in western Australia. I know that I probably can't bring any stones back home but I still want to hunt. Is there any good places to hunt between Perth and Kalgoorlie or in that area? Any other places in Western Australia that I should visit? Is there any description of the meteorite field in Camel Donga? That is an area I would like to spend a couple of days in. Any other tips for me? Apart from meteorite hunting, I'm invited to a wedding and I'm going to hunt for gold so I have my metal detector with me. /Göran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite hunting in Western Australia
Mr. Axelsson wrote: I just want to test my luck and finally find a meteorite myself Thinking about the moment when you have to hand over your first find, I can't help but suggest going someplace else where what you find can be yours to keep. Meteorites are all over the globe. Find a piece of private land in a country where the owner will come to terms with you keeping the stone once found. BTW, not grumbling about AU's laws here. Just thinking that you deserve to keep your first find. I know I would not want to give up such a find. The story comes to mind about the two guys finding the Old Woman meteorite. You know about that one, right? Mike in CO On Jul 11, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Göran Axelsson wrote: Hi and thanks for the answer! I was aware of the export laws and had no intention of bringing any meteorite back home without permit. But that it belongs to the government in WA was a surprise. How could there be so many Millbillillies around with that law? Is it a new interpretation or a new law? If (big if) I would find a meteorite where should I leave it? I just want to test my luck and finally find a meteorite myself, if it ends up in a museum that is fine with me. I still have a few days before I go out in the wild... well, I decided to not stray too far out from the main roads, it should be enough round to cover for this vacation anyhow. /Goran Norbert Heike Kammel wrote: Hi Goeran/List, just a quick note to remind you that Federal laws protect meteorites found in Australia and it is an offence to export one without a permit. *In Western Australia and South Australia legislation means that meteorites are the property of the Government and must be lodged with an appropriate Museum.* In other States, the finder is able to keep a meteorite. Also please keep in mind that the areas are VERY remote and not so easy accessable. It is advisable to travel at least with two relyable 4WD's, one driver experienced in Outback travelling. Even though it is now winter time and often rainy carry enough water and food in case you get bogged. Also a SatPhone or HF Radio would be adviseable to carry. The better fields are more east from Kalgoolie, like the Camel Donga strewnfield, in the Nullarbor Plain. Anyway, Welcome to Australia, and have a great time. Best regards from Down-Under, Norbert Kammel IMCA # 3420 Göran Axelsson wrote: Hi list! I'm currently sitting 50 meters from the Indian Ocean and planning my vacation in Australia. In about a week I will have a lot of free time and I wanted to spend one week hunting for meteorites here in western Australia. I know that I probably can't bring any stones back home but I still want to hunt. Is there any good places to hunt between Perth and Kalgoorlie or in that area? Any other places in Western Australia that I should visit? Is there any description of the meteorite field in Camel Donga? That is an area I would like to spend a couple of days in. Any other tips for me? Apart from meteorite hunting, I'm invited to a wedding and I'm going to hunt for gold so I have my metal detector with me. /Göran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite hunting in Western Australia
Hi list! I'm currently sitting 50 meters from the Indian Ocean and planning my vacation in Australia. In about a week I will have a lot of free time and I wanted to spend one week hunting for meteorites here in western Australia. I know that I probably can't bring any stones back home but I still want to hunt. Is there any good places to hunt between Perth and Kalgoorlie or in that area? Any other places in Western Australia that I should visit? Is there any description of the meteorite field in Camel Donga? That is an area I would like to spend a couple of days in. Any other tips for me? Apart from meteorite hunting, I'm invited to a wedding and I'm going to hunt for gold so I have my metal detector with me. /Göran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite hunting in Western Australia
Hi Goeran/List, just a quick note to remind you that Federal laws protect meteorites found in Australia and it is an offence to export one without a permit. *In Western Australia and South Australia legislation means that meteorites are the property of the Government and must be lodged with an appropriate Museum.* In other States, the finder is able to keep a meteorite. Also please keep in mind that the areas are VERY remote and not so easy accessable. It is advisable to travel at least with two relyable 4WD's, one driver experienced in Outback travelling. Even though it is now winter time and often rainy carry enough water and food in case you get bogged. Also a SatPhone or HF Radio would be adviseable to carry. The better fields are more east from Kalgoolie, like the Camel Donga strewnfield, in the Nullarbor Plain. Anyway, Welcome to Australia, and have a great time. Best regards from Down-Under, Norbert Kammel IMCA # 3420 Göran Axelsson wrote: Hi list! I'm currently sitting 50 meters from the Indian Ocean and planning my vacation in Australia. In about a week I will have a lot of free time and I wanted to spend one week hunting for meteorites here in western Australia. I know that I probably can't bring any stones back home but I still want to hunt. Is there any good places to hunt between Perth and Kalgoorlie or in that area? Any other places in Western Australia that I should visit? Is there any description of the meteorite field in Camel Donga? That is an area I would like to spend a couple of days in. Any other tips for me? Apart from meteorite hunting, I'm invited to a wedding and I'm going to hunt for gold so I have my metal detector with me. /Göran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
