[meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?

2014-07-16 Thread Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes 
hundreds of feet deep.

Michael Farmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?

2014-07-16 Thread Yinan Wang via Meteorite-list
Looks like the result of a methane-trap explosion!

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
Their most plausible theory involves global warming?  Global warming
isn't even a plausible theory any more, ask a climatologist.

This article acknowleges that it is not a meteorite crater, which is
apparent from the pictures:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html

A spokesman for the ministry's Yamal branch has ruled out a
meteorite, but says it is too early to say what caused the hole.

'We can definitely say that it is not a meteorite,' he says.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes 
 hundreds of feet deep.

 Michael Farmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?

2014-07-16 Thread Yinan Wang via Meteorite-list
Don't dismiss something just because it uses the phrase Global
Warming. In this case all it takes is regional warming in the arctic
circle to release methane previously frozen in the permafrost, which
can ignite underground and explode.



On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Their most plausible theory involves global warming?  Global warming
 isn't even a plausible theory any more, ask a climatologist.

 This article acknowleges that it is not a meteorite crater, which is
 apparent from the pictures:
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html

 A spokesman for the ministry's Yamal branch has ruled out a
 meteorite, but says it is too early to say what caused the hole.

 'We can definitely say that it is not a meteorite,' he says.

 Michael in so. Cal.

 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes 
 hundreds of feet deep.

 Michael Farmer

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 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] New crater in Siberia?

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
I recognize that regional/localized warming could account for it, but
that's not what they wrote.  They should have phrased their hypothesis
better.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't dismiss something just because it uses the phrase Global
 Warming. In this case all it takes is regional warming in the arctic
 circle to release methane previously frozen in the permafrost, which
 can ignite underground and explode.



 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Their most plausible theory involves global warming?  Global warming
 isn't even a plausible theory any more, ask a climatologist.

 This article acknowleges that it is not a meteorite crater, which is
 apparent from the pictures:
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html

 A spokesman for the ministry's Yamal branch has ruled out a
 meteorite, but says it is too early to say what caused the hole.

 'We can definitely say that it is not a meteorite,' he says.

 Michael in so. Cal.

 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 This is not a meteorite crater, unless you think meteorites drill holes 
 hundreds of feet deep.

 Michael Farmer

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 16, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Chauncey Walden via Meteorite-list 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/10970468/Mysterious-giant-hole-appears-in-Siberia.html
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[meteorite-list] new crater in siberia

2002-10-28 Thread John Sinclair
Cash plea for space impact study
By Dr David Whitehouse
BBC News Online science editor
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2309117.stm

Scientists investigating what is believed to be a significant fresh
meteoroid impact crater in a remote part of Siberia are begging for funds to
mount an expedition.
A British meteorite expert has called on the international community to help
Russian researchers get to the impact site, which may be of major scientific
importance.

It is imperative that US and UK funding bodies to support our Russian
colleagues in their investigation of the Siberian impact

Benny Peiser, John Moores University, Liverpool
Hunters in the region say they have seen a large crater surrounded by burned
forest.

Vladimir Polyakov, of the Institute of Solar and Terrestrial Physics in
Moscow, said: Specialists have no doubt that it is a meteorite that fell
into the taiga on Thursday.

Middle-power Earthquake

Polyakov says there were more than 100 eyewitnesses to the event.

He added that scientists believed them. He said instruments rarely recorded
the impacts of meteoroids and so eyewitnesses were practically the only
source of information for such events.

Kirill Levi, vice-director of the Earth Crust Institute in Siberia, said:
The seismic monitoring station located near the event site recorded the
moment of impact recording seismic waves comparable to a middle-power
earthquake.

Vladimir Polyakov added that it was impossible to send a state-funded
expedition to the site, which lies in Bodaibo district, Irkutsk region,
without approval from the Meteorite Studies Center in Moscow.

Bodaibo residents say they witnessed the fall of a very large, luminous
body, which looked like a huge boulder.

No funds

Scientists in Irkutsk have sent a report to Moscow along with a request for
funds to mount an expedition but have had no reply.

Benny Peiser, of Liverpool John Moores University, UK, said: We appear to
be dealing with a significant impact event.

He told BBC News Online: It is imperative that US and UK funding bodies
support our Russian colleagues in their investigation of the Siberian
impact.

The resources required for sending a scientific expedition to the epicentre
of the event would be very moderate but could yield vital information about
the impact threat that concerns every citizen of the world.



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