Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video
Hi all, These grooves are not unique to Vesta and have been found on a number of other bodies with numerous formation theories. In fact here is one paper dedicated to grooves on asteroids and moons: http://multimedia.seti.org/PhD2011/abstracts/PhD2-11-024.pdf Cheers, Jeff -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bob King Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2011 3:53 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Oh, what the heck, I'll throw in my thoughts too. Could the Vesta grooves be faulting combined with later slumping (as seen many lunar craters) caused by the force of impact? Bob On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Richard, Larry, List,,, Larry has guessed, It is possible that the grooves are related to this impact.. I think Larry might be on to something.. If the grooves run parallel to the circumference of the large defect..might they not be upheavals caused by the forces moving out away from the epicenter? Just guessing, Guido -Original Message- From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Sent: Sep 21, 2011 5:21 AM To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Richard: The depression is an impact feature, by far the largest relavtive to the size of the body it hit (Vesta). It is possible that the grooves are related to this impact (just a guess). Larry Howdy List, While the 'big depression' on the Vestan south pole has been a major focus...what about those wild grooves??? I see visions of a spinning Vesta grinding against another twin, gouging grooves in a dancea low gravity parlay perhaps analogous to a high-school bump and grind, the two spinning against each otherwhich begs the obvious question: where is the partner in grind?? Should we not expect to eventually find trailing remnants of both in those tell-tale grooves? -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Hi Mike: I assume that you meant to say slick (hope that I am not putting words in your mouth). I have played this video several times and it is clear how much can be said about Vesta by the narrator without giving any scientific interpretation of it! I realize that there is always the mandate that little is said without an official press release or the published papers with the first results, but to say only that there is a depression at the south pole, a huge crater (known for many years) and probably the main source of most HED meteorites, leaves one wanting for at least some interpretation of what one is seeing. Larry i didn't see this posted to the list yet. pretty sick video. http://www.space.com/12998-asteroid-vesta-video-nasa-dawn-spacecraft.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video
Richard: The depression is an impact feature, by far the largest relavtive to the size of the body it hit (Vesta). It is possible that the grooves are related to this impact (just a guess). Larry Howdy List, While the 'big depression' on the Vestan south pole has been a major focus...what about those wild grooves??? I see visions of a spinning Vesta grinding against another twin, gouging grooves in a dancea low gravity parlay perhaps analogous to a high-school bump and grind, the two spinning against each otherwhich begs the obvious question: where is the partner in grind?? Should we not expect to eventually find trailing remnants of both in those tell-tale grooves? -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Hi Mike: I assume that you meant to say slick (hope that I am not putting words in your mouth). I have played this video several times and it is clear how much can be said about Vesta by the narrator without giving any scientific interpretation of it! I realize that there is always the mandate that little is said without an official press release or the published papers with the first results, but to say only that there is a depression at the south pole, a huge crater (known for many years) and probably the main source of most HED meteorites, leaves one wanting for at least some interpretation of what one is seeing. Larry i didn't see this posted to the list yet. pretty sick video. http://www.space.com/12998-asteroid-vesta-video-nasa-dawn-spacecraft.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video
Hi Richard, I thought of this immediately when I looked at the first pictures. Then I imagined one of the larger hits knocked it away from what ever it was rolling around. And, then I thought Vesta trying to stretch itself and the feature is a result of that! Who knows!!! It will be interesting to learn. Watching this closely. Kind Regards, Jim Wooddell - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Richard: The depression is an impact feature, by far the largest relavtive to the size of the body it hit (Vesta). It is possible that the grooves are related to this impact (just a guess). Larry Howdy List, While the 'big depression' on the Vestan south pole has been a major focus...what about those wild grooves??? I see visions of a spinning Vesta grinding against another twin, gouging grooves in a dancea low gravity parlay perhaps analogous to a high-school bump and grind, the two spinning against each otherwhich begs the obvious question: where is the partner in grind?? Should we not expect to eventually find trailing remnants of both in those tell-tale grooves? -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Hi Mike: I assume that you meant to say slick (hope that I am not putting words in your mouth). I have played this video several times and it is clear how much can be said about Vesta by the narrator without giving any scientific interpretation of it! I realize that there is always the mandate that little is said without an official press release or the published papers with the first results, but to say only that there is a depression at the south pole, a huge crater (known for many years) and probably the main source of most HED meteorites, leaves one wanting for at least some interpretation of what one is seeing. Larry i didn't see this posted to the list yet. pretty sick video. http://www.space.com/12998-asteroid-vesta-video-nasa-dawn-spacecraft.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video
I would go for 'compression' as a result of a really large impact causing the grooves. We know there are remnants of a large impact crater that are visible. David R Childs - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Richard: The depression is an impact feature, by far the largest relavtive to the size of the body it hit (Vesta). It is possible that the grooves are related to this impact (just a guess). Larry Howdy List, While the 'big depression' on the Vestan south pole has been a major focus...what about those wild grooves??? I see visions of a spinning Vesta grinding against another twin, gouging grooves in a dancea low gravity parlay perhaps analogous to a high-school bump and grind, the two spinning against each otherwhich begs the obvious question: where is the partner in grind?? Should we not expect to eventually find trailing remnants of both in those tell-tale grooves? -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Hi Mike: I assume that you meant to say slick (hope that I am not putting words in your mouth). I have played this video several times and it is clear how much can be said about Vesta by the narrator without giving any scientific interpretation of it! I realize that there is always the mandate that little is said without an official press release or the published papers with the first results, but to say only that there is a depression at the south pole, a huge crater (known for many years) and probably the main source of most HED meteorites, leaves one wanting for at least some interpretation of what one is seeing. Larry i didn't see this posted to the list yet. pretty sick video. http://www.space.com/12998-asteroid-vesta-video-nasa-dawn-spacecraft.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video
Richard, Larry, List,,, Larry has guessed, It is possible that the grooves are related to this impact.. I think Larry might be on to something.. If the grooves run parallel to the circumference of the large defect..might they not be upheavals caused by the forces moving out away from the epicenter? Just guessing, Guido -Original Message- From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Sent: Sep 21, 2011 5:21 AM To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Richard: The depression is an impact feature, by far the largest relavtive to the size of the body it hit (Vesta). It is possible that the grooves are related to this impact (just a guess). Larry Howdy List, While the 'big depression' on the Vestan south pole has been a major focus...what about those wild grooves??? I see visions of a spinning Vesta grinding against another twin, gouging grooves in a dancea low gravity parlay perhaps analogous to a high-school bump and grind, the two spinning against each otherwhich begs the obvious question: where is the partner in grind?? Should we not expect to eventually find trailing remnants of both in those tell-tale grooves? -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Hi Mike: I assume that you meant to say slick (hope that I am not putting words in your mouth). I have played this video several times and it is clear how much can be said about Vesta by the narrator without giving any scientific interpretation of it! I realize that there is always the mandate that little is said without an official press release or the published papers with the first results, but to say only that there is a depression at the south pole, a huge crater (known for many years) and probably the main source of most HED meteorites, leaves one wanting for at least some interpretation of what one is seeing. Larry i didn't see this posted to the list yet. pretty sick video. http://www.space.com/12998-asteroid-vesta-video-nasa-dawn-spacecraft.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video
Oh, what the heck, I'll throw in my thoughts too. Could the Vesta grooves be faulting combined with later slumping (as seen many lunar craters) caused by the force of impact? Bob On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Richard, Larry, List,,, Larry has guessed, It is possible that the grooves are related to this impact.. I think Larry might be on to something.. If the grooves run parallel to the circumference of the large defect..might they not be upheavals caused by the forces moving out away from the epicenter? Just guessing, Guido -Original Message- From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu Sent: Sep 21, 2011 5:21 AM To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Richard: The depression is an impact feature, by far the largest relavtive to the size of the body it hit (Vesta). It is possible that the grooves are related to this impact (just a guess). Larry Howdy List, While the 'big depression' on the Vestan south pole has been a major focus...what about those wild grooves??? I see visions of a spinning Vesta grinding against another twin, gouging grooves in a dancea low gravity parlay perhaps analogous to a high-school bump and grind, the two spinning against each otherwhich begs the obvious question: where is the partner in grind?? Should we not expect to eventually find trailing remnants of both in those tell-tale grooves? -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Hi Mike: I assume that you meant to say slick (hope that I am not putting words in your mouth). I have played this video several times and it is clear how much can be said about Vesta by the narrator without giving any scientific interpretation of it! I realize that there is always the mandate that little is said without an official press release or the published papers with the first results, but to say only that there is a depression at the south pole, a huge crater (known for many years) and probably the main source of most HED meteorites, leaves one wanting for at least some interpretation of what one is seeing. Larry i didn't see this posted to the list yet. pretty sick video. http://www.space.com/12998-asteroid-vesta-video-nasa-dawn-spacecraft.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new vesta video
i didn't see this posted to the list yet. pretty sick video. http://www.space.com/12998-asteroid-vesta-video-nasa-dawn-spacecraft.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video
Hi Mike: I assume that you meant to say slick (hope that I am not putting words in your mouth). I have played this video several times and it is clear how much can be said about Vesta by the narrator without giving any scientific interpretation of it! I realize that there is always the mandate that little is said without an official press release or the published papers with the first results, but to say only that there is a depression at the south pole, a huge crater (known for many years) and probably the main source of most HED meteorites, leaves one wanting for at least some interpretation of what one is seeing. Larry i didn't see this posted to the list yet. pretty sick video. http://www.space.com/12998-asteroid-vesta-video-nasa-dawn-spacecraft.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video
Howdy List, While the 'big depression' on the Vestan south pole has been a major focus...what about those wild grooves??? I see visions of a spinning Vesta grinding against another twin, gouging grooves in a dancea low gravity parlay perhaps analogous to a high-school bump and grind, the two spinning against each otherwhich begs the obvious question: where is the partner in grind?? Should we not expect to eventually find trailing remnants of both in those tell-tale grooves? -Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new vesta video Hi Mike: I assume that you meant to say slick (hope that I am not putting words in your mouth). I have played this video several times and it is clear how much can be said about Vesta by the narrator without giving any scientific interpretation of it! I realize that there is always the mandate that little is said without an official press release or the published papers with the first results, but to say only that there is a depression at the south pole, a huge crater (known for many years) and probably the main source of most HED meteorites, leaves one wanting for at least some interpretation of what one is seeing. Larry i didn't see this posted to the list yet. pretty sick video. http://www.space.com/12998-asteroid-vesta-video-nasa-dawn-spacecraft.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
