AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?
5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope this helps. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming month. I've been reading all the books and think I know it all now [HA!] Ron and a few others had some good advice [thanks everyone], but I wonder if anyone else can offer me some tips on making a good, lasting impression on 8 year olds. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Larry A. Lebofsky Senior Research Scientist Co-editor, Meteorite If you give a man a fish, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory you feed him for a day. 1541 East University If you teach a man to fish, University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime. Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese Proverb Phone: 520-621-6947 FAX:520-621-8364 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope this helps. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming month. I've been reading all the books and think I know it all now [HA!] Ron and a few others had some good advice [thanks everyone], but I wonder if anyone else can offer me some tips on making a good, lasting impression on 8 year olds. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Larry A. Lebofsky Senior Research Scientist Co-editor, Meteorite If you give a man a fish, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory you feed him for a day. 1541 East University If you teach a man to fish, University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime. Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese Proverb Phone: 520-621-6947 FAX:520-621-8364 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Dave, made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed yea, good one!!! Beats the old baking soda and vinager volcano! -Walter - - Original Message - From: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope this helps. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming month. I've been reading all the books and think I know it all now [HA!] Ron and a few others had some good advice [thanks everyone], but I wonder if anyone else can offer me some tips on making a good, lasting impression on 8 year olds. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Larry A. Lebofsky Senior Research Scientist Co-editor, Meteorite If you give a man a fish, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory you feed him for a day. 1541 East University If you teach a man to fish, University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime. Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese Proverb Phone: 520-621-6947 FAX:520-621-8364 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo
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Hi Walter and all, The dry ice comet is a great demo if you are allowed to do it. Sometimes dry ice and ammonia are on the elementary school banned list. This activity is one of the more accurate demos possible, and usually you can get great off-gassing jets projected using an overhead. The activity can be found here under comet basics: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/classroom/guides.html And a cool pic if you haven't seen it is in my latest Accretion Desk article at the Meteorite Times .com is a pic of Carolyn Shoemaker and Paul Wild are building a dry ice comet. Here is the pic's caption: In a most memorable convergence of people in time, Paul Wild who discovered comet Wild2 in 1978, and Carolyn Shoemaker, the discoverer of more comets than anyone else on this planet build a model comet with dry ice, ammonia and sand. Cheers, Martin On 2/14/06, Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed yea, good one!!! Beats the old baking soda and vinager volcano! -Walter - - Original Message - From: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope this helps. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming month. I've been reading all the books and think I know it all now [HA!] Ron and a few others had some good advice [thanks everyone], but I wonder if anyone else can offer me some tips on making a good, lasting impression on 8 year olds. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman
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Gotta try this one at home first. lol Gary made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Martin and fellow Listees Martin reminded me of what else I threw in: ammonia; but I only had ammonia-laced soap. That added a bit-- The school never checked the ingredients I used and might not have known what was controlled. Dave Martin Horejsi wrote: Hi Walter and all, The dry ice comet is a great demo if you are allowed to do it. Sometimes dry ice and ammonia are on the elementary school banned list. This activity is one of the more accurate demos possible, and usually you can get great off-gassing jets projected using an overhead. The activity can be found here under comet basics: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/classroom/guides.html And a cool pic if you haven't seen it is in my latest Accretion Desk article at the Meteorite Times .com is a pic of Carolyn Shoemaker and Paul Wild are building a dry ice comet. Here is the pic's caption: In a most memorable convergence of people in time, Paul Wild who discovered comet Wild2 in 1978, and Carolyn Shoemaker, the discoverer of more comets than anyone else on this planet build a model comet with dry ice, ammonia and sand. Cheers, Martin On 2/14/06, Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed yea, good one!!! Beats the old baking soda and vinager volcano! -Walter - - Original Message - From: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope this helps. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming month. I've been reading
Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?
I gave a lecture for my kids school (also at age 8). I started with a nightime story, a kid going to bed, then suddenly in the middle of the night a crash sound, breaking noises and when he turned the light off his room window and ceiling was broken (you have to put some suspense telling it). Then tell the story is true, it happened a couple of years ago in Park forest. Kids loved this starting and start go put a lot of attention (at least in the next minutes) Don't forget to mention mars and the moon meteorites (if you can show them theese meteorites much better). A video of Peekskill (or another fall) is a good idea. If you have a pallasite slice don't forget to bring it (in a membrane box it is safe). Girls love gems from space. And of course, the theories of life caming from space with carbonaceous meteorites, and especially the mass death of the dinosaurs are highlights that can't be missed. At that age kids love to discover things, so they will like anything new. good luck Eduardo -Original Message- From: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:46:01 -0800 Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope this helps. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming month. I've been reading all the books and think I know it all now [HA!] Ron and a few others had some good advice [thanks everyone], but I wonder if anyone else can offer me some tips on making a good, lasting impression on 8 year olds. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Larry A. Lebofsky Senior Research Scientist Co-editor, Meteorite If you give a man a fish, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory you feed him for a day
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Hi Eduardo, Hey, that is a good way to begin the discussion. I will have to remember that for next time. Very nice, with the drama and all. A little Steven Speilberg-like (but not Irwin Allen). Good idea, tying it in to the demise of the dinosaurs. -Walter - - Original Message - From: Eduardo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:40 PM Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? I gave a lecture for my kids school (also at age 8). I started with a nightime story, a kid going to bed, then suddenly in the middle of the night a crash sound, breaking noises and when he turned the light off his room window and ceiling was broken (you have to put some suspense telling it). Then tell the story is true, it happened a couple of years ago in Park forest. Kids loved this starting and start go put a lot of attention (at least in the next minutes) Don't forget to mention mars and the moon meteorites (if you can show them theese meteorites much better). A video of Peekskill (or another fall) is a good idea. If you have a pallasite slice don't forget to bring it (in a membrane box it is safe). Girls love gems from space. And of course, the theories of life caming from space with carbonaceous meteorites, and especially the mass death of the dinosaurs are highlights that can't be missed. At that age kids love to discover things, so they will like anything new. good luck Eduardo -Original Message- From: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:46:01 -0800 Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope this helps. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming
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Thanks for the link Martin. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 10:30, Dave Mouat wrote: Hi Martin and fellow Listees Martin reminded me of what else I threw in: ammonia; but I only had ammonia-laced soap. That added a bit-- The school never checked the ingredients I used and might not have known what was controlled. Dave Martin Horejsi wrote: Hi Walter and all, The dry ice comet is a great demo if you are allowed to do it. Sometimes dry ice and ammonia are on the elementary school banned list. This activity is one of the more accurate demos possible, and usually you can get great off-gassing jets projected using an overhead. The activity can be found here under comet basics: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/classroom/guides.html And a cool pic if you haven't seen it is in my latest Accretion Desk article at the Meteorite Times .com is a pic of Carolyn Shoemaker and Paul Wild are building a dry ice comet. Here is the pic's caption: In a most memorable convergence of people in time, Paul Wild who discovered comet Wild2 in 1978, and Carolyn Shoemaker, the discoverer of more comets than anyone else on this planet build a model comet with dry ice, ammonia and sand. Cheers, Martin On 2/14/06, Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed yea, good one!!! Beats the old baking soda and vinager volcano! -Walter - - Original Message - From: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope
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Du! The Garza Park Forest meteorite. Only the best kid story on this planet! I cannot belive I missed that one. Oh, I know why. Because I usually don't carry my Garza stone around with me for fear I might ruin it's character. Maybe I will now though. http://www.meteoritetimes.com/Back_Links/2003/June/Accretion_Desk.htm Good to see you again in Tucson Eduardo. Cheers, Martin On 2/14/06, Eduardo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave a lecture for my kids school (also at age 8). I started with a nightime story, a kid going to bed, then suddenly in the middle of the night a crash sound, breaking noises and when he turned the light off his room window and ceiling was broken (you have to put some suspense telling it). Then tell the story is true, it happened a couple of years ago in Park forest. Kids loved this starting and start go put a lot of attention (at least in the next minutes) Don't forget to mention mars and the moon meteorites (if you can show them theese meteorites much better). A video of Peekskill (or another fall) is a good idea. If you have a pallasite slice don't forget to bring it (in a membrane box it is safe). Girls love gems from space. And of course, the theories of life caming from space with carbonaceous meteorites, and especially the mass death of the dinosaurs are highlights that can't be missed. At that age kids love to discover things, so they will like anything new. good luck Eduardo -Original Message- From: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:46:01 -0800 Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have an iron (best because it is different), hand it around with an equal-sized meteorwrong. It makes a point. Most other meteorites look like rocks so it is difficult for young kids to relate to these coming from space. 4. Have fun, get excited: you may get a few converts to science (or at least an interest in meteorites). Hope this helps. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming month. I've been reading all the books and think I know it all now [HA!] Ron
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Gary, it really isn't necessary to reply to all every time you want to thank someone, I was gone from home for 3 hours and come home to 40 more list messages, It is getting overwhelming. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Thanks for the link Martin. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 10:30, Dave Mouat wrote: Hi Martin and fellow Listees Martin reminded me of what else I threw in: ammonia; but I only had ammonia-laced soap. That added a bit-- The school never checked the ingredients I used and might not have known what was controlled. Dave Martin Horejsi wrote: Hi Walter and all, The dry ice comet is a great demo if you are allowed to do it. Sometimes dry ice and ammonia are on the elementary school banned list. This activity is one of the more accurate demos possible, and usually you can get great off-gassing jets projected using an overhead. The activity can be found here under comet basics: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/classroom/guides.html And a cool pic if you haven't seen it is in my latest Accretion Desk article at the Meteorite Times .com is a pic of Carolyn Shoemaker and Paul Wild are building a dry ice comet. Here is the pic's caption: In a most memorable convergence of people in time, Paul Wild who discovered comet Wild2 in 1978, and Carolyn Shoemaker, the discoverer of more comets than anyone else on this planet build a model comet with dry ice, ammonia and sand. Cheers, Martin On 2/14/06, Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed yea, good one!!! Beats the old baking soda and vinager volcano! -Walter - - Original Message - From: Dave Mouat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Martin's suggestion of giving them little specimens is a good one. Years ago, I offered to talk about comets and meteorites/meteors to a 4th grade class. A certain ex-dealer sold me about 25 small Gibeons for a really good price. I put them in little glass jars (10 or 20 ml), handed them out. I brought some large irons with a window polished and etched, a large chondrite, a large slice of Albin. The 4th grade class went nuts, however, when I made the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, dirt). Placed the pyrex jar in front of a fan, made sure the kids were more or less behind the comet, poured warm water into the mixture. Have a good time with this!! Dave Martin Altmann wrote: 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Lebofsky Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 16:43 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an asteroid scientist so I know a lot (but not everything) about asteroids and a lot less about meteorites. That is a part of why we do what we do: to learn more. 1. Keep it fairly simple (but be prepared for some good questions). You might start out by asking them simple questions about what is in the Solar System. Good chance to feel them out. At this age they may know about Cassini and other recent missions or they might not know there are nine (or 10) planets. 2. Make connections: show pictures of asteroids and meteors. Explain asteroid, meteoroid, meteor, meteorite. 3. LET THEM HOLD THE STUFF (if not too fragile or valuable). If you have
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Simply trying to honor those who are helping with public recognition. Sorry to have filled your email box with trivia Mike. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 14:24, Michael Farmer wrote: Gary, it really isn't necessary to reply to all every time you want to thank someone, I was gone from home for 3 hours and come home to 40 more list messages, It is getting overwhelming. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Everyone, I want to thank everyone who contributed to this discussion today. I felt it was very informative and I have printed the everyone's contributions and ideas for future reference. The ideas I got today will certainly improve my future presentations to kids. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Gary: Went away for a few hours and now trying to catch up on the emails. If you do the comet (not sure I would do the comet AND meteorites on the same day -- too much for just about any grade level), be sure to do it safely --- gloves and eye protection. As an aside, I might be one of the few people to be paid big bucks for doing this demo: Discovery Channel flew someone in from England to do the interview, hired a local camera person, and spent 3 hours taping 4 or 5 comets (we had to provide the supplies). My wife assisted, but only her hands were seen (so they did not have to pay her), Michael Dorn (Worf from Startrek) was the narrator, and I got paid 4 quarters!!! Over 25 cents an hour! With respect to doing the Solar System model, there are a number of scale models around. We do one with macrame (see how that translates; the stuff you hang plants with) so that they get a good feel for the scale of the Solar System. If you have enough space (pun intended) with a 1/2 inch (1.25 cm) Sun, Pluto is 200 feet (60 meters) away. Perfect for a playground and you can get the kids to revolve around the Sun. Larry Quoting Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for the link Martin. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 10:30, Dave Mouat wrote: Hi Martin and fellow Listees Martin reminded me of what else I threw in: ammonia; but I only had ammonia-laced soap. That added a bit-- The school never checked the ingredients I used and might not have known what was controlled. Dave Martin Horejsi wrote: Hi Walter and all, The dry ice comet is a great demo if you are allowed to do it. Sometimes dry ice and ammonia are on the elementary school banned list. This activity is one of the more accurate demos possible, and usually you can get great off-gassing jets projected using an overhead. The activity can be found here under comet basics: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/classroom/guides.html And a cool pic if you haven't seen it is in my latest Accretion Desk article at the Meteorite Times .com is a pic of Carolyn Shoemaker and Paul Wild are building a dry ice comet. Here is the pic's caption: In a most memorable convergence of people in time, Paul Wild who discovered comet Wild2 in 1978, and Carolyn Shoemaker, the discoverer of more comets than anyone else on this planet build a model comet with dry ice, ammonia and sand. Cheers, Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
