AW: [meteorite-list] Maybe time to move on....

2004-10-04 Thread Bernhard Rems
Sure, now we let the nice people be scared away. 

Stay, for god's sake. You don't leave Alabama because of the frogs, do
you?



So, I think that I may have to leave both the Metlist and the IMCA as I
am
not too sure I wish to be associated with people who appear to stick
the
knife in at the fist available opportunity.

Client: You know, Bernhard, I think deep in your heart you are like
me.
Bernhard: How dare you to call me an asshole!?!

:-)

Bernhard

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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave
Harris
Gesendet: Montag, 04. Oktober 2004 17:58
An: metlist
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Hi folks,
I seem to have got a few people such as 'Mauro' and others upset as I
have
been using the Metlist (and others) to promote private sales.
To be honest I am generally a bit unhappy with this inclination to turn
on
anyone at the drop of a hat.
I am fully aware that I am not the greatest contributor to the list - I
only
have questions and not many answers as there are so many experts on the
list
 and I am aware also that I do use the list to promote sales, which I
also
know a lot of people probably do not like, but the massive majority,
instead
of having a personal pop at me just delete the emails.

So, I think that I may have to leave both the Metlist and the IMCA as I
am
not too sure I wish to be associated with people who appear to stick the
knife in at the fist available opportunity.

I am perhaps being a little oversensitive, but I am going thru a tricky
time
of life, no job and no money whilst having a lot of responsibility.  I
do
not like having to defend myself to people I have always regarded as
friends


After some of the bitchfests I have seen on the list, I am surprised at
the
vehemence of the attacks I have been getting just because I elected to
advertise a piece of rock that cost me over £1000 and understandably
wish to
make a return on it.

When certain individuals on this list are expelled or calmed down to the
point that I can respect their opinions then I might rejoin. But until
then
I think I am going to lurk for a couple of days then leave and also
remove
my IMCA registration.

I was hoping I would never have to write this email, but some of you
have
really crushed my passion for space rocks and my thirst for knowledge.

I do thank those wonderful people, however, who have been so good to me
with
feeding my head with sound advice.  
Next week Mark Ford and I are donating some very substantial specimens
to
Sir Patrick Moore at his astronomy club (complete with the press there)
and
that will make me happy to give some of my hard earned rocks away.  I
hope
that they will go some way to educating some people into the wonders of
this
subject, and hopefully they will not be experiencing the barbs and
arrows I
have had to endure.


best to all of you who I care about (which is most of you!)


dave
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AW: [meteorite-list] Maybe time to move on....

2004-10-04 Thread Bernhard Rems
You have this constellation in each and every hobby where people come
together.

1) The oldtimers that look down on newcomers and think the newcomers are
something like ape is to men.
2) The oldtimers that love newcomers because they allow them to share
the love for their hobby. They think newcomers are like children - not
easy to handle but the future.
3) The psychos. They are in the hobby because that's the only place
where they think they can get some awareness. They treat everyone like
if they were that pile of shit they are themselves.
4) The newcomers that know everything better. They do not see that
merits have to be earned. They sooner or later turn into 3) (if they
lack intelligence) or 1) (if they lack a heart)
5) The newcomers that love oldtimers, because they can learn from them.
They can only become 2) after some years, never 1) or 3) (pardon, they
CAN become 1) or 3) if their girlfriend decides to leave them because of
their hobby).

There are many subkinds of hobbyists, but these 5 breeds cover app. 90%
of them :-)

Bernhard

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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Tom
AKA James Knudson
Gesendet: Montag, 04. Oktober 2004 18:37
An: Dave Harris; metlist
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Maybe time to move on

Hey Dave, I know how you feel!  I love meteorites, but I do not feel
like I
am a welcomed part of the meteorite community.  There are some great
people
out there, but there is a lot of people that seem to want to keep the
hobby
to themselves. I have lost a lot of my collecting passion too. It seems
strange, the people that rely on meteorite sales for a living would push
people out of collecting. I stay on the list because of the great people
on
here.

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier 
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 8:58 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Maybe time to move on


 Hi folks,
 I seem to have got a few people such as 'Mauro' and others upset as I
have
 been using the Metlist (and others) to promote private sales.
 To be honest I am generally a bit unhappy with this inclination to
turn on
 anyone at the drop of a hat.
 I am fully aware that I am not the greatest contributor to the list -
I
only
 have questions and not many answers as there are so many experts on
the
list
  and I am aware also that I do use the list to promote sales, which I
also
 know a lot of people probably do not like, but the massive majority,
instead
 of having a personal pop at me just delete the emails.

 So, I think that I may have to leave both the Metlist and the IMCA as
I am
 not too sure I wish to be associated with people who appear to stick
the
 knife in at the fist available opportunity.

 I am perhaps being a little oversensitive, but I am going thru a
tricky
time
 of life, no job and no money whilst having a lot of responsibility.  I
do
 not like having to defend myself to people I have always regarded as
friends


 After some of the bitchfests I have seen on the list, I am surprised
at
the
 vehemence of the attacks I have been getting just because I elected to
 advertise a piece of rock that cost me over £1000 and understandably
wish
to
 make a return on it.

 When certain individuals on this list are expelled or calmed down to
the
 point that I can respect their opinions then I might rejoin. But until
then
 I think I am going to lurk for a couple of days then leave and also
remove
 my IMCA registration.

 I was hoping I would never have to write this email, but some of you
have
 really crushed my passion for space rocks and my thirst for knowledge.

 I do thank those wonderful people, however, who have been so good to
me
with
 feeding my head with sound advice.
 Next week Mark Ford and I are donating some very substantial specimens
to
 Sir Patrick Moore at his astronomy club (complete with the press
there)
and
 that will make me happy to give some of my hard earned rocks away.  I
hope
 that they will go some way to educating some people into the wonders
of
this
 subject, and hopefully they will not be experiencing the barbs and
arrows
I
 have had to endure.


 best to all of you who I care about (which is most of you!)


 dave
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