Re: [meteorite-list] Cleaning Scale off Stonys

2006-01-04 Thread Rob Wesel

Hi guys-

Using HCl will send the chloride straight to the fresh metal and oxidize it. 
Tried it, don't recommend it.


Rob Wesel
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Hi Pete and list, interesting read this one, just an untried thought after 
years of cleaning ancient coins now and then, the caliche is a carbonate, 
I am assuming, it should dissolve rapidly in HCl or Hydrochloric acid, 
dilute to slow it. Also, I had success on certain coins removing bad stuff 
by heating and quenching in water, SSS and it flaked off.

Cheers, Kevin.


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Hello, List,

...so quiet in here...everyone still hung-over, eh?

A while ago I posted a request for any suggestions to make getting scale 
off of stone meteorites any easier, without a response.


I tried a few things myself and I'll pass on the results for anyone who is 
interested:


De-scalers like CLR or Limeaway are messy, smelly and potentially 
dangerous, even in a diluted form down to 25% with distilled water - and 
it changed the appearance of the surface somewhat.


A furnace humidifier scale-be-gone solution was the same disappointment.


Hydrogen Peroxide, however, was a definite help, and at the household 3%, 
it's relatively safe.


I submerged the intended stone in the peroxide for about an hour, and 
while keeping it wet I started cleaning.
It is still a meticulous task - I still needed to use the dental picks, 
but the scale comes off a lot easier and in bigger chips, and doesn't 
appear to harm the meteorite.


I soak the stones in alcohol when I'm done to displace the water.

I'll try 10% later, and if there's an marked advange I'll post the 
results...unless someone else tries it first...


I suggest you wear disposable gloves, though, as the stuff will bleach 
your fingertips.


Any input or further suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Pete


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RE: [meteorite-list] Cleaning Scale off Stonys

2006-01-03 Thread Kevin Forbes


Hi Pete and list, interesting read this one, just an untried thought after 
years of cleaning ancient coins now and then, the caliche is a carbonate, I 
am assuming, it should dissolve rapidly in HCl or Hydrochloric acid, dilute 
to slow it. Also, I had success on certain coins removing bad stuff by 
heating and quenching in water, SSS and it flaked off.

Cheers, Kevin.


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Hello, List,

...so quiet in here...everyone still hung-over, eh?

A while ago I posted a request for any suggestions to make getting scale 
off of stone meteorites any easier, without a response.


I tried a few things myself and I'll pass on the results for anyone who is 
interested:


De-scalers like CLR or Limeaway are messy, smelly and potentially 
dangerous, even in a diluted form down to 25% with distilled water - and it 
changed the appearance of the surface somewhat.


A furnace humidifier scale-be-gone solution was the same disappointment.


Hydrogen Peroxide, however, was a definite help, and at the household 3%, 
it's relatively safe.


I submerged the intended stone in the peroxide for about an hour, and while 
keeping it wet I started cleaning.
It is still a meticulous task - I still needed to use the dental picks, but 
the scale comes off a lot easier and in bigger chips, and doesn't appear to 
harm the meteorite.


I soak the stones in alcohol when I'm done to displace the water.

I'll try 10% later, and if there's an marked advange I'll post the 
results...unless someone else tries it first...


I suggest you wear disposable gloves, though, as the stuff will bleach your 
fingertips.


Any input or further suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Pete


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