RE: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-12 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I have stoped to bid this material when I have see well the material.for 
me its a slice of Gabbrolook this

http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteorite2000/meteor11.JPG

Matteo



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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:39:28 +0100
It's funny to see WHO has placed a bid on that :-)

Bernhard

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Hi Martin,

The text used for this auction was taken from my website without my
permission. This fact, together with the fact that it looks nothing like
DaG 476 and that the seller has zero feedback, would make me not bid on
this item under any circumstances. Buy from a reputable dealer.
David

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Re: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread Peter Marmet



Martin A. wrote:
St.Magellon  Divelbiss help!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2224881954amp;category=3239Item
# 2224881954
I found this DaG 476 browsing ebay and in my opinion it is not directly
looking like DaG 476, nor like an Shergottite at all.

Hi Martin and list,
that's exactly what I thought when I saw the pictures of this DaG
476.
My slice (20x30mm) and many others pieces (today at the NHM Bern!)
of real DaG 476 I saw, did not at all look like the
one on ebay. For me there only 3 possibilities:
First; The 2 photos on ebay are very bad
Second: It's from a very special part of DaG 476
Third: It's not a DaG 476
What do others think?
Peter


Re: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread Moritz Karl
Hi List!

I would say that it is not DaG 476 as I know pretty precise what this
material looks like.
Regards
Moritz Karl

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Hi list,

St.Magellon  Divelbiss help!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2224881954category=3239

Item # 2224881954

I found this DaG 476 browsing ebay and in my opinion it is not directly
looking like DaG 476, nor like an Shergottite at all.

What are your opinions?
Greetings!
Martin A.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread Moritz Karl








Hi Peter and list!



There is no special part of the DaG 476
that looks like that that I know of.

Further I think the picture quality is
sufficient enough to say that it is not DaG 476.
Best Regards

Moritz Karl











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Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..





 
Martin A. wrote: 

St.Magellon  Divelbiss help! 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2224881954amp;category=3239Item
# 2224881954 
I found this DaG 476 browsing ebay and in my
opinion it is not directly 
looking like DaG 476, nor like an
Shergottite at all. 
 

Hi Martin
and list, 

that's
exactly what I thought when I saw the pictures of this DaG 476. 
My slice (20x30mm) and many others pieces (today at the NHM Bern!) of real DaG
476 I saw, did not at all look like the 
one on ebay. For me there only 3 possibilities: 
First; The 2 photos on ebay are very bad 
Second: It's from a very special part of DaG 476 
Third: It's not a DaG 476 

What do
others think? 

Peter








Re: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread j . divelbiss
Martin and others,

As you all can see, this is not a huge slice of DaG 476. It looks more like a 
porophyritic basalt from earth of course. It is not a Mars shergottite, nor an earthly 
gabbro. Based on the size of the piece when compared to the dime, it is about 4 cm x 3 
cm...which would make it about 20 to 30 grams in weight. So at a minimal price of 
$200/g this piece would be worth about $4,000 to $6,000 (four to six thousand dollars 
and probably more from most dealers). So starting it at a $10 bid would be huge risk 
to say the least. Bottom line...this is earth rock and fraud for against our hobby. 
Below is a link to Eric Twelker's site and his 22 gram piece is listed for $8,500. Now 
that is what DaG 476 looks like.

http://www.alaska.net/~meteor/DAG476.htm

I will contact Ken and see how he wants to handle this...in the mean time I'll send 
the high bidder a note telling him what it is, and is not.

Thanx Martin,

John

 Hi list,
 
 St.Magellon  Divelbiss help!
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2224881954category=3239
 
 Item # 2224881954
 
 I found this DaG 476 browsing ebay and in my opinion it is not directly
 looking like DaG 476, nor like an Shergottite at all.
 
 What are your opinions?
 Greetings!
 Martin A.
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread David Weir
Hi Martin,

The text used for this auction was taken from my website without my
permission. This fact, together with the fact that it looks nothing like
DaG 476 and that the seller has zero feedback, would make me not bid on
this item under any circumstances. Buy from a reputable dealer.

David

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RE: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems
It's funny to see WHO has placed a bid on that :-)

Bernhard

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Hi Martin,

The text used for this auction was taken from my website without my
permission. This fact, together with the fact that it looks nothing like
DaG 476 and that the seller has zero feedback, would make me not bid on
this item under any circumstances. Buy from a reputable dealer.

David

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RE: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread CMcdon0923
 It's funny to see WHO has placed a bid on that :-) 

Let's hope he wins it !!

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Re: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread magellon
Hi David,
Actually he did NOT copy the text from your web site.
He copied the header and first three paragraphs
verbatim from Erich's web site:
http://www.mars.li/DaG476.htm
Erich copied his web site from yours!
Best,
ken newton




David Weir wrote:

 Hi Martin,

 The text used for this auction was taken from my website without my
 permission. This fact, together with the fact that it looks nothing like
 DaG 476 and that the seller has zero feedback, would make me not bid on
 this item under any circumstances. Buy from a reputable dealer.

 David

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