RE: [meteorite-list] meteorites - money for terrorism
Bruno, Carine, I congratulate you for your courage to stand up against these silly allegations. I sincerely hope that this trial will end this stupid thing once and forever. Bernhard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norbert Classen Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:50 PM To: meteorite-list Cc: La Memoire de la Terre Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites - money for terrorism Hello Everybody, I'm forwarding this email on behalf of Bruno Carine who aren't able to get throught to the list directly. It contains important information, and I recommend everyone to read it since it's affecting most of us. Thanks. All the best, Norbert -Original Message- Dear List Members, as you all remind, the pelisson brothers tried to discredit all the meteoritic community by associating it to terrorists and al quaeda suppliers the 31 january (the opening day of Tucson show) We did bring them in court for defamation (a kind of felony), they already have been sentenced the 1st of March for that, they have a fine of 4200 Euros but we could take off only a few words in their pages as it was a referee, and express judgement due to urgency. (Official sentence paper is available by fax for who wants it) It's now several years that the Pelisson are trying to discredit all of us. This time it's really bad, they did use private and public emails of you guys! Dean Bessey, David Freeman, Michael Farmer, Bob Verish, Adam Greg Hupe, Labenne, Nelson Oakes and Habibi, as well as several very well known scientists. They are using parts out of context of your public and private communications to try to prove that we all are involved in an active islamic group ... we all know this is completly false and very close to delirium but they brought that as pieces for their defence in a public court in France. Now they are trying to have support of medias, they already sent press folder (witch is a full crap of 65 pages!) only two newspapers wrote on that. But the next step could be higher, they will say that we all finance drugs or worst They already said in a newspaper that ben Laden in person have been see in Morocco to organise personally the traffic !! This is too much, we all have to react or they will ruin the whole community image including the scientists as they declare to the judge that some of them are hiding traffics with al quaeda in exchange of money or rare samples. As we won the first part at the court of Lyon, now we are in a good position to bring them front of high justice, it should takes several months but they will be badly sentenced. This is a shame that such an interesting hobby involving origin of our Solar System, Earth and Life with so many scientifical works are now pointed as network funding horrible things. Please don't hesitate to react and say what you really think of these two people. Cheers from France, Bruno Carine www.meteorite.fr - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites - money for terrorism
Great news. Although Bruno and I have had our differences, we both agree that the Pellisons are the scum of the earth. These pompous people give new meaning to the French stereotype. They are trying to trash every dealer but themselves and it is great that Bruno and Carine have the ability to take them to justice. I hope they get the death penalty!:) Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: La Memoire de la Terre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 6:49 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites - money for terrorism Hello Everybody, I'm forwarding this email on behalf of Bruno Carine who aren't able to get throught to the list directly. It contains important information, and I recommend everyone to read it since it's affecting most of us. Thanks. All the best, Norbert -Original Message- Dear List Members, as you all remind, the pelisson brothers tried to discredit all the meteoritic community by associating it to terrorists and al quaeda suppliers the 31 january (the opening day of Tucson show) We did bring them in court for defamation (a kind of felony), they already have been sentenced the 1st of March for that, they have a fine of 4200 Euros but we could take off only a few words in their pages as it was a referee, and express judgement due to urgency. (Official sentence paper is available by fax for who wants it) It's now several years that the Pelisson are trying to discredit all of us. This time it's really bad, they did use private and public emails of you guys! Dean Bessey, David Freeman, Michael Farmer, Bob Verish, Adam Greg Hupe, Labenne, Nelson Oakes and Habibi, as well as several very well known scientists. They are using parts out of context of your public and private communications to try to prove that we all are involved in an active islamic group ... we all know this is completly false and very close to delirium but they brought that as pieces for their defence in a public court in France. Now they are trying to have support of medias, they already sent press folder (witch is a full crap of 65 pages!) only two newspapers wrote on that. But the next step could be higher, they will say that we all finance drugs or worst They already said in a newspaper that ben Laden in person have been see in Morocco to organise personally the traffic !! This is too much, we all have to react or they will ruin the whole community image including the scientists as they declare to the judge that some of them are hiding traffics with al quaeda in exchange of money or rare samples. As we won the first part at the court of Lyon, now we are in a good position to bring them front of high justice, it should takes several months but they will be badly sentenced. This is a shame that such an interesting hobby involving origin of our Solar System, Earth and Life with so many scientifical works are now pointed as network funding horrible things. Please don't hesitate to react and say what you really think of these two people. Cheers from France, Bruno Carine www.meteorite.fr - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites - money for terrorism
Bruno, Carine and list, Nice to hear about you legal victory...or our legal victory should I say. I think most of us tip our hats to you for your time and money put into this effort. Please keep us informed. Other people mentioned by the Peilsson'scould nowconsider the option of riding Bruno and Carine's case in other courtrooms. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com PS: If I could get a transcript or a photocopy of the newspaper article, re: Ben Laden, you have referred to I would be interested in it. - Original Message - From: Norbert Classen Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 7:56 AM To: meteorite-list Cc: La Memoire de la Terre Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorites - money for terrorism Hello Everybody,I'm forwarding this email on behalf of Bruno Carine whoaren't able to get throught to the list directly. It containsimportant information, and I recommend everyone to read itsince it's affecting most of us. Thanks.All the best,Norbert -Original Message-Dear List Members,as you all remind, the pelisson brothers tried to discredit all the meteoritic community by associating it to terroristsand al quaeda suppliers the 31 january (the opening day of Tucson show)We did bring them in court for defamation (a kind of felony),they already have been sentenced the 1st of March for that, they have a fine of 4200 Euros but we could take off only a few words in their pages as it was a "referee", and express judgement due to urgency. (Official sentence paper is available by fax for who wants it)It's now several years that the Pelisson are trying to discredit all of us. This time it's really bad, they did use private and public emails of you guys! Dean Bessey, David Freeman, Michael Farmer, Bob Verish, Adam Greg Hupe, Labenne, Nelson Oakes and Habibi, as well as several very well known scientists. They are using parts out of context of your public and private communications to try to prove that we all are involved in an "active islamic group" ... we all know this is completly false and very close to delirium but they brought that as pieces for their defence in a public court in France.Now they are trying to have support of medias, they already sent press folder (witch is a full crap of 65 pages!) only two newspapers wrote on that. But the next step could be higher, they will say that we all finance drugs or worst They already said in a newspaper thatben Laden in person have been see in Morocco to organise personally the traffic !!This is too much, we all have to react or they will ruin the whole community image including the scientists as they declare to the judge that some of them are hiding traffics with al quaeda in exchange ofmoney or rare samples.As we won the first part at the court of Lyon, now we are in a good position to bring them front of high justice, it should takes several months but they will be badly sentenced. This is a shame that such an interesting hobby involving origin of our Solar System, Earth and Life with so many scientifical works are now pointed as network funding horrible things.Please don't hesitate to react and say what you really think of these two people.Cheers from France,Bruno Carinewww.meteorite.fr - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:35 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? __Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlistnet/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites - money for terrorism
Can someone make an effort to get the documents concerning this case digitized and uploaded to the Web? A lot of work, I know. But I think a lot of us with computers, and without Faxes, would like to read them in French... Cheers, Nick __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
