Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-04 Thread Moni Waiblinger

Hello All,

I just checked out the post of the Descriptive Catalog on the
Recovered Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall and must say, this is 
somewhat I have seen some of my Californian meteorite friends do also with 
all of their and my finds.
It is time consuming and it takes so much effort, but like many of you 
agreed, the job is well worth it.


Thank you Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann!
The 'stones' are beautiful.
My heart seems to always beat faster when I look at meteorites!  :-)
Seriously!


With best regards,
Moni

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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread matt
An absolutely stunning piece of work, well done Svend and Matthias. I've
only managed a quick browser through so far, but look forward to
spending longer reading it later. It's enlightening to see this amount
of detail regarding a fall and it's subsequent collection/distribution.

Thanks for all your time and effort,

Matt.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered 
 Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a non-commercial 
 download.

 The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg 
 (including the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in lots. 
 More than 80 individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou 
 meteorite fall is 93.851kg.

 In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by 
 collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should be 
 much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single Bassikounou 
 meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% of these cases 
 we had cataloged the particular masses before either individually or under a 
 certain lot.

 In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many meteorites 
 change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan sellers equip 
 their colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, or they simply 
 exchange certain batches of material between one another. This is the reason 
 why one and the same meteorite can be offered to you from different sellers 
 from the same NWA country successively. 

 During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass on 
 its journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a 
 meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a 
 collector in Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular 
 meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under different circumstances and 
 with different photos. 

 This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material 
 circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion that 
 many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely overestimated 
 in their total weight.

 We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of 
 future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our 
 undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania 
 and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected to the meteorites 
 they trade. 

 You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the 
 bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:

 http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm

 Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:

 http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf

 Please allow the large document some time to load.


 Thanks again to all contributors.


 Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann



   

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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread Matt Morgan
Agreed. Reminds me of a H.H. Nininger write-up.  Fascinating and a great 
account of the fall. Thanks for taking the time!

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites

matt wrote:

An absolutely stunning piece of work, well done Svend and Matthias. I've
only managed a quick browser through so far, but look forward to
spending longer reading it later. It's enlightening to see this amount
of detail regarding a fall and it's subsequent collection/distribution.

Thanks for all your time and effort,

Matt.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered Masses 
of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a non-commercial download.

The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg (including 
the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in lots. More than 80 
individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou meteorite fall 
is 93.851kg.

In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by 
collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should be 
much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single Bassikounou 
meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% of these cases 
we had cataloged the particular masses before either individually or under a 
certain lot.

In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many meteorites change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan sellers equip their colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, or they simply exchange certain batches of material between one another. This is the reason why one and the same meteorite can be offered to you from different sellers from the same NWA country successively. 

During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass on its journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a collector in Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under different circumstances and with different photos. 


This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material 
circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion that 
many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely overestimated in 
their total weight.

We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected to the meteorites they trade. 


You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the 
bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm

Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf

Please allow the large document some time to load.


Thanks again to all contributors.


Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann



  



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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread Meteoriteshow
Yes, definitely a fantastic job that had never been done on any meteorite fall 
before, as far as I know.
Thanks a lot for sharing those prcious information!
All the best.

Frederic Beroud
http://www.meteoriteshow.com
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From: matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses 
released


 An absolutely stunning piece of work, well done Svend and Matthias. I've
 only managed a quick browser through so far, but look forward to
 spending longer reading it later. It's enlightening to see this amount
 of detail regarding a fall and it's subsequent collection/distribution.

 Thanks for all your time and effort,

 Matt.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered 
  Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now
available as a non-commercial download.
 
  The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg 
  (including the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another
31.665kg in lots. More than 80 individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of 
the Bassikounou meteorite fall is 93.851kg.
 
  In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by 
  collectors explaining that regarding to their
observations the TKW should be much higher. To prove their point they showed us 
images of single Bassikounou meteorites or complete
lots they were offered recently. In 99% of these cases we had cataloged the 
particular masses before either individually or under a
certain lot.
 
  In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many 
  meteorites change hands already before they get distributed.
Moroccan sellers equip their colleagues with commission material to visit 
Europe, or they simply exchange certain batches of
material between one another. This is the reason why one and the same meteorite 
can be offered to you from different sellers from
the same NWA country successively.
 
  During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass on 
  its journey from the local finder, to a distributor
in Morroco, to a meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and 
finally to a collector in Canada. During the stations of
the journey this particular meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under 
different circumstances and with different photos.
 
  This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material 
  circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us
to the conclusion that many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are 
largely overestimated in their total weight.
 
  We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of 
  future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are
positive, that our undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as 
distributors in Mauritania and Morocco to preserve the
information that is connected to the meteorites they trade.
 
  You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the 
  bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:
 
  http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm
 
  Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:
 
  http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf
 
  Please allow the large document some time to load.
 
 
  Thanks again to all contributors.
 
 
  Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann
 
 
 
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
probably the work is not ended seen many pieces is not
present in the list, the 90+ kg. is not the final tkw.
Now I need another piece of this meteorite for a trade here
in Italy.

Matteo

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 An absolutely stunning piece of work, well done Svend and
 Matthias. I've only managed a quick browser through so far
 , but look forward to spending longer reading it later.
 It's enlightening to see this amount of detail regarding a
 fall and it's subsequent collection/distribution.
 
 Thanks for all your time and effort,
 
 Matt.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog
 on the Recovered Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall
 is now available as a non-commercial download. 
  The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight
 of 62.186kg (including the 6.120kg main mass) individually
 and another 31.665kg in lots. More than 80 individual
 masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou
 meteorite fall is 93.851kg. 
  In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often
 been approached by collectors explaining that regarding to
 their observations the TKW should be much higher. To prove
 their point they showed us images of single Bassikounou
 meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In
 99% of these cases we had cataloged the particular masses
 before either individually or under a certain lot. 
  In this context it might be interesting for some of you,
 that many meteorites change hands already before they get
 distributed. Moroccan sellers equip their colleagues with
 commission material to visit Europe, or they simply
 exchange certain batches of material between one another.
 This is the reason why one and the same meteorite can be
 offered to you from different sellers from the same NWA
 country successively.  
  During our research we were able to follow an exemplary
 Bassikounou mass on its journey from the local finder, to
 a distributor in Morroco, to a meteorite fair in France,
 to a European mineral dealer and finally to a collector in
 Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular
 meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under
 different circumstances and with different photos.  
  This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is
 much more material circulating than actually is. Our
 experience lead us to the conclusion that many recent
 meteorite falls that produced showers are largely
 overestimated in their total weight. 
  We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding
 and recovery of future meteorite falls in isolated areas.
 And we are positive, that our undertaking helps to
 sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania
 and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected
 to the meteorites they trade.  
  You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the
 cover image on the bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou
 report: 
 

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm
 
  Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:
 
 

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf
 
  Please allow the large document some time to load.
 
 
  Thanks again to all contributors.
 
 
  Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann
 
 
 

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread Alexander Seidel
An astonishing, excellent piece of work!
Thanks a bunch, Svend and Matthias,
for a job very well done,

Alex
Berlin/Germany


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Datum: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:36:02 +0200
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Betreff: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses   released

 We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered
 Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a
 non-commercial download.
 
 The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg
 (including the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in lots.
 More than 80 individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou
 meteorite fall is 93.851kg.
 
 In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by
 collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should be
 much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single
 Bassikounou meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% of 
 these
 cases we had cataloged the particular masses before either individually or
 under a certain lot.
 
 In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many
 meteorites change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan sellers
 equip their colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, or they 
 simply
 exchange certain batches of material between one another. This is the
 reason why one and the same meteorite can be offered to you from different
 sellers from the same NWA country successively. 
 
 During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass
 on its journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a
 meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a
 collector in Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular 
 meteorite
 was offered no less than 12 times under different circumstances and with
 different photos. 
 
 This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material
 circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion
 that many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely
 overestimated in their total weight.
 
 We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of
 future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our
 undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania
 and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected to the meteorites
 they trade. 
 
 You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the
 bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:
 
 http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm
 
 Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:
 
 http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf
 
 Please allow the large document some time to load.
 
 
 Thanks again to all contributors.
 
 
 Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread Mal Bishop


Dear Svend and Mathias,

I can't say it with any more appreciation and acclaim than everyone else 
who've already thanked you both for your extremely diligent, singular work 
on Bassikounou.  Your Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered Masses of the 
Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is simply astounding!  I immediately downloaded 
it, printed it, and I'm presently in the process, with excitement, 
digesting it all!


Both your descriptive catalog and your account of the fall presented on 
your website will hopefully give impetus to those in the future to present 
such similar detail when researching and documenting subsequent falls and 
even finds for that matter when possible!


I've printed out both works and placed them in a binder to sit along side 
my other reference materials.


Danke sehr,
Mal


At 02:36 PM 7/3/2007 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered 
Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a 
non-commercial download.


The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg 
(including the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in 
lots. More than 80 individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the 
Bassikounou meteorite fall is 93.851kg.


In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by 
collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should 
be much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single 
Bassikounou meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% 
of these cases we had cataloged the particular masses before either 
individually or under a certain lot.


In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many 
meteorites change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan 
sellers equip their colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, 
or they simply exchange certain batches of material between one another. 
This is the reason why one and the same meteorite can be offered to you 
from different sellers from the same NWA country successively.


During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass 
on its journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a 
meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a 
collector in Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular 
meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under different circumstances 
and with different photos.


This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material 
circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion 
that many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely 
overestimated in their total weight.


We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of 
future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our 
undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in 
Mauritania and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected to 
the meteorites they trade.


You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the 
bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:


http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm

Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf

Please allow the large document some time to load.


Thanks again to all contributors.


Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann



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