Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014
An example of our wonderful ineffective government serving its citizenship. This is the worst leadership I have ever witnessed. They should take the money fleeced from the public to write worthless new BLM laws and to pay for the Affordable Healthcare Act? and apply it to science. At least we will get some kind of a return in technology. Science and education are two areas that should be funded and not adding government jobs to oversee worthless programs. Manned space flight will something that our grand children will only be able to dream about because the current administration spent all of their money and probably several generations that will follow. Future generations will have the outrageous burden of paying for the current administrations out of control spending. At least a drunken sailor blows his own money while in port, not the over-taxed taxpayers' funds. Of course they could print more money forcing us into hyperinflation. Wait a minute, this is already happening. Best Regards my fellow comrades, Adam - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 As the Sequestration starts to propagate... Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Pulliam, Joyce N (6050) joyce.n.pull...@jpl.nasa.gov Date: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM Subject: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 To: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 The impacts of sequestration on the Federal budget have led to new travel policies that severely constrain the participation of NASA center employees, including JPL, and other government employees (e.g., the U. S. Geological Survey) in scientific conferences, including the planned 8th International Mars Conference set for July 15-19 on the Caltech campus. The current fiscal environment is sufficiently restrictive that we, the organizers of the conference, have decided to delay the meeting for one year, holding it instead in June/July of 2014. We sought advice from the MEPAG Executive Committee, which unanimously concurred with our decision. We were preparing for a general mailing last Monday when NASA Headquarters asked us to hold off and consider whether the conference could be hosted electronically. This was a reasonable request, given recent success for several meetings held via electronic media. However, after consideration, we felt that this would not work for the 8th International Conference on Mars. This series of Mars conferences have at opportune times provided comprehensive looks at our state of knowledge regarding Mars. They are, by design (e.g., broad participation, no parallel sessions, and yes a captive audience in an academic setting) meant to foster cross-disciplinary discussion, integration and innovation. Although it was our strong preference to hold the conference this year, the meeting in 2014 will include even more results from Mars, including Curiosity’s further exploration of Gale Crater, as the rover will then be well into the second year of its primary science mission. We have no doubt that Mars will remain in the news in the coming year, given the ongoing orbital and surface exploration of the planet, and there could be several focused workshops or conferences in that time; each needs to decide if an electronic forum is appropriate. In the meantime, we will work with NASA over the coming year to obtain its approval for extensive participation by its researchers, which is vital to the overall success of a conference that is of the scale of its predecessors. We look forward to a full conference in June/July 2014 and hope to see you there. Dan McCleese / Dave Beaty / Rich Zurek 8th International Mars Conference conveners __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014
How did the current administration spend all the money? How much did the last one piss away in Iraq and Afghanistan? Enough to have a manned base on the moon and Mars:) Michael Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: An example of our wonderful ineffective government serving its citizenship. This is the worst leadership I have ever witnessed. They should take the money fleeced from the public to write worthless new BLM laws and to pay for the Affordable Healthcare Act? and apply it to science. At least we will get some kind of a return in technology. Science and education are two areas that should be funded and not adding government jobs to oversee worthless programs. Manned space flight will something that our grand children will only be able to dream about because the current administration spent all of their money and probably several generations that will follow. Future generations will have the outrageous burden of paying for the current administrations out of control spending. At least a drunken sailor blows his own money while in port, not the over-taxed taxpayers' funds. Of course they could print more money forcing us into hyperinflation. Wait a minute, this is already happening. Best Regards my fellow comrades, Adam - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 As the Sequestration starts to propagate... Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Pulliam, Joyce N (6050) joyce.n.pull...@jpl.nasa.gov Date: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM Subject: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 To: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 The impacts of sequestration on the Federal budget have led to new travel policies that severely constrain the participation of NASA center employees, including JPL, and other government employees (e.g., the U. S. Geological Survey) in scientific conferences, including the planned 8th International Mars Conference set for July 15-19 on the Caltech campus. The current fiscal environment is sufficiently restrictive that we, the organizers of the conference, have decided to delay the meeting for one year, holding it instead in June/July of 2014. We sought advice from the MEPAG Executive Committee, which unanimously concurred with our decision. We were preparing for a general mailing last Monday when NASA Headquarters asked us to hold off and consider whether the conference could be hosted electronically. This was a reasonable request, given recent success for several meetings held via electronic media. However, after consideration, we felt that this would not work for the 8th International Conference on Mars. This series of Mars conferences have at opportune times provided comprehensive looks at our state of knowledge regarding Mars. They are, by design (e.g., broad participation, no parallel sessions, and yes a captive audience in an academic setting) meant to foster cross-disciplinary discussion, integration and innovation. Although it was our strong preference to hold the conference this year, the meeting in 2014 will include even more results from Mars, including Curiosity’s further exploration of Gale Crater, as the rover will then be well into the second year of its primary science mission. We have no doubt that Mars will remain in the news in the coming year, given the ongoing orbital and surface exploration of the planet, and there could be several focused workshops or conferences in that time; each needs to decide if an electronic forum is appropriate. In the meantime, we will work with NASA over the coming year to obtain its approval for extensive participation by its researchers, which is vital to the overall success of a conference that is of the scale of its predecessors.We look forward to a full conference in June/July 2014 and hope to see you there. Dan McCleese / Dave Beaty / Rich Zurek 8th International Mars Conference conveners __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014
Man Adam sounds like you need to go back to school too!! This administration is really supporting NASA and science!! ( sarcasm off) Stuart McDaniel .(mobile).. On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:52, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: An example of our wonderful ineffective government serving its citizenship. This is the worst leadership I have ever witnessed. They should take the money fleeced from the public to write worthless new BLM laws and to pay for the Affordable Healthcare Act? and apply it to science. At least we will get some kind of a return in technology. Science and education are two areas that should be funded and not adding government jobs to oversee worthless programs. Manned space flight will something that our grand children will only be able to dream about because the current administration spent all of their money and probably several generations that will follow. Future generations will have the outrageous burden of paying for the current administrations out of control spending. At least a drunken sailor blows his own money while in port, not the over-taxed taxpayers' funds. Of course they could print more money forcing us into hyperinflation. Wait a minute, this is already happening. Best Regards my fellow comrades, Adam - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 As the Sequestration starts to propagate... Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Pulliam, Joyce N (6050) joyce.n.pull...@jpl.nasa.gov Date: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM Subject: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 To: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 The impacts of sequestration on the Federal budget have led to new travel policies that severely constrain the participation of NASA center employees, including JPL, and other government employees (e.g., the U. S. Geological Survey) in scientific conferences, including the planned 8th International Mars Conference set for July 15-19 on the Caltech campus. The current fiscal environment is sufficiently restrictive that we, the organizers of the conference, have decided to delay the meeting for one year, holding it instead in June/July of 2014. We sought advice from the MEPAG Executive Committee, which unanimously concurred with our decision. We were preparing for a general mailing last Monday when NASA Headquarters asked us to hold off and consider whether the conference could be hosted electronically. This was a reasonable request, given recent success for several meetings held via electronic media. However, after consideration, we felt that this would not work for the 8th International Conference on Mars. This series of Mars conferences have at opportune times provided comprehensive looks at our state of knowledge regarding Mars. They are, by design (e.g., broad participation, no parallel sessions, and yes a captive audience in an academic setting) meant to foster cross-disciplinary discussion, integration and innovation. Although it was our strong preference to hold the conference this year, the meeting in 2014 will include even more results from Mars, including Curiosity’s further exploration of Gale Crater, as the rover will then be well into the second year of its primary science mission. We have no doubt that Mars will remain in the news in the coming year, given the ongoing orbital and surface exploration of the planet, and there could be several focused workshops or conferences in that time; each needs to decide if an electronic forum is appropriate. In the meantime, we will work with NASA over the coming year to obtain its approval for extensive participation by its researchers, which is vital to the overall success of a conference that is of the scale of its predecessors.We look forward to a full conference in June/July 2014 and hope to see you there. Dan McCleese / Dave Beaty / Rich Zurek 8th International Mars Conference conveners __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014
What does the GOP say about NASA funding? If I recall, the control congress, this the purse strings this NASA's budget. Again, do you need a refresher in us government? Last time I checked the Tea Party controls congress and Tea Party wants to cut spending to the bone (now being done under sequester). Nasa and everyone else is on the chopping block. Any questions? Mike Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Man Adam sounds like you need to go back to school too!! This administration is really supporting NASA and science!! ( sarcasm off) Stuart McDaniel .(mobile).. On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:52, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: An example of our wonderful ineffective government serving its citizenship. This is the worst leadership I have ever witnessed. They should take the money fleeced from the public to write worthless new BLM laws and to pay for the Affordable Healthcare Act? and apply it to science. At least we will get some kind of a return in technology. Science and education are two areas that should be funded and not adding government jobs to oversee worthless programs. Manned space flight will something that our grand children will only be able to dream about because the current administration spent all of their money and probably several generations that will follow. Future generations will have the outrageous burden of paying for the current administrations out of control spending. At least a drunken sailor blows his own money while in port, not the over-taxed taxpayers' funds. Of course they could print more money forcing us into hyperinflation. Wait a minute, this is already happening. Best Regards my fellow comrades, Adam - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 As the Sequestration starts to propagate... Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Pulliam, Joyce N (6050) joyce.n.pull...@jpl.nasa.gov Date: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM Subject: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 To: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 The impacts of sequestration on the Federal budget have led to new travel policies that severely constrain the participation of NASA center employees, including JPL, and other government employees (e.g., the U. S. Geological Survey) in scientific conferences, including the planned 8th International Mars Conference set for July 15-19 on the Caltech campus. The current fiscal environment is sufficiently restrictive that we, the organizers of the conference, have decided to delay the meeting for one year, holding it instead in June/July of 2014. We sought advice from the MEPAG Executive Committee, which unanimously concurred with our decision. We were preparing for a general mailing last Monday when NASA Headquarters asked us to hold off and consider whether the conference could be hosted electronically. This was a reasonable request, given recent success for several meetings held via electronic media. However, after consideration, we felt that this would not work for the 8th International Conference on Mars. This series of Mars conferences have at opportune times provided comprehensive looks at our state of knowledge regarding Mars. They are, by design (e.g., broad participation, no parallel sessions, and yes a captive audience in an academic setting) meant to foster cross-disciplinary discussion, integration and innovation. Although it was our strong preference to hold the conference this year, the meeting in 2014 will include even more results from Mars, including Curiosity’s further exploration of Gale Crater, as the rover will then be well into the second year of its primary science mission. We have no doubt that Mars will remain in the news in the coming year, given the ongoing orbital and surface exploration of the planet, and there could be several focused workshops or conferences in that time; each needs to decide if an electronic forum is appropriate. In the meantime, we will work with NASA over the coming year to obtain its approval for extensive participation by its researchers, which is vital to the overall success of a conference that is of the scale of its predecessors.We look forward to a full conference in June/July 2014 and
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014
I am not here to argue politics, just report what I see happening and how it affects our avocation. The track record speaks for itself. Even an ostrich with his head planted in the sand can see what is going on. The trillions of dollars spent the last four years certainly could have been put to better use, not spent to save government insured businesses that are too big to fail, a socialist switch. Ford didn't touch the funds proving that a well managed company doesn't need government loans (handouts) that will never be paid back in full despite what politicians report. I think the money would have been better spent propping up our failing infrastructure and make U.S. science and education more robust. Sincerely my fellow comrades, Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 How did the current administration spend all the money? How much did the last one piss away in Iraq and Afghanistan? Enough to have a manned base on the moon and Mars:) Michael Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: An example of our wonderful ineffective government serving its citizenship. This is the worst leadership I have ever witnessed. They should take the money fleeced from the public to write worthless new BLM laws and to pay for the Affordable Healthcare Act? and apply it to science. At least we will get some kind of a return in technology. Science and education are two areas that should be funded and not adding government jobs to oversee worthless programs. Manned space flight will something that our grand children will only be able to dream about because the current administration spent all of their money and probably several generations that will follow. Future generations will have the outrageous burden of paying for the current administrations out of control spending. At least a drunken sailor blows his own money while in port, not the over-taxed taxpayers' funds. Of course they could print more money forcing us into hyperinflation. Wait a minute, this is already happening. Best Regards my fellow comrades, Adam - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 As the Sequestration starts to propagate... Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Pulliam, Joyce N (6050) joyce.n.pull...@jpl.nasa.gov Date: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM Subject: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 To: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 The impacts of sequestration on the Federal budget have led to new travel policies that severely constrain the participation of NASA center employees, including JPL, and other government employees (e.g., the U. S. Geological Survey) in scientific conferences, including the planned 8th International Mars Conference set for July 15-19 on the Caltech campus. The current fiscal environment is sufficiently restrictive that we, the organizers of the conference, have decided to delay the meeting for one year, holding it instead in June/July of 2014. We sought advice from the MEPAG Executive Committee, which unanimously concurred with our decision. We were preparing for a general mailing last Monday when NASA Headquarters asked us to hold off and consider whether the conference could be hosted electronically. This was a reasonable request, given recent success for several meetings held via electronic media. However, after consideration, we felt that this would not work for the 8th International Conference on Mars. This series of Mars conferences have at opportune times provided comprehensive looks at our state of knowledge regarding Mars. They are, by design (e.g., broad participation, no parallel sessions, and yes a captive audience in an academic setting) meant to foster cross-disciplinary discussion, integration and innovation. Although it was our strong preference to hold the conference this year, the meeting in 2014 will include even more results from Mars, including Curiosity’s further exploration of Gale Crater, as the rover will then be well into the second year
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014
Couldn't agree more, except spending spree didn't start the day Obama Took office. Bush bankrupted the nation, if you recall by the financial collapse In sept 08. Sequester will be the nail in the coffin. Ryan was one of the authors. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: I am not here to argue politics, just report what I see happening and how it affects our avocation. The track record speaks for itself. Even an ostrich with his head planted in the sand can see what is going on. The trillions of dollars spent the last four years certainly could have been put to better use, not spent to save government insured businesses that are too big to fail, a socialist switch. Ford didn't touch the funds proving that a well managed company doesn't need government loans (handouts) that will never be paid back in full despite what politicians report. I think the money would have been better spent propping up our failing infrastructure and make U.S. science and education more robust. Sincerely my fellow comrades, Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 How did the current administration spend all the money? How much did the last one piss away in Iraq and Afghanistan? Enough to have a manned base on the moon and Mars:) Michael Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: An example of our wonderful ineffective government serving its citizenship. This is the worst leadership I have ever witnessed. They should take the money fleeced from the public to write worthless new BLM laws and to pay for the Affordable Healthcare Act? and apply it to science. At least we will get some kind of a return in technology. Science and education are two areas that should be funded and not adding government jobs to oversee worthless programs. Manned space flight will something that our grand children will only be able to dream about because the current administration spent all of their money and probably several generations that will follow. Future generations will have the outrageous burden of paying for the current administrations out of control spending. At least a drunken sailor blows his own money while in port, not the over-taxed taxpayers' funds. Of course they could print more money forcing us into hyperinflation. Wait a minute, this is already happening. Best Regards my fellow comrades, Adam - Original Message - From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu To: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:28 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 As the Sequestration starts to propagate... Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Pulliam, Joyce N (6050) joyce.n.pull...@jpl.nasa.gov Date: Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM Subject: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 To: Postponement of the 8th International Mars Conference to 2014 The impacts of sequestration on the Federal budget have led to new travel policies that severely constrain the participation of NASA center employees, including JPL, and other government employees (e.g., the U. S. Geological Survey) in scientific conferences, including the planned 8th International Mars Conference set for July 15-19 on the Caltech campus. The current fiscal environment is sufficiently restrictive that we, the organizers of the conference, have decided to delay the meeting for one year, holding it instead in June/July of 2014. We sought advice from the MEPAG Executive Committee, which unanimously concurred with our decision. We were preparing for a general mailing last Monday when NASA Headquarters asked us to hold off and consider whether the conference could be hosted electronically. This was a reasonable request, given recent success for several meetings held via electronic media. However, after consideration, we felt that this would not work for the 8th International Conference on Mars. This series of Mars conferences have at opportune times provided comprehensive looks at our state of knowledge regarding Mars. They are, by design (e.g., broad participation, no parallel sessions
