Re: [meteorite-list] NYT article on Chebarkul meteorite
The NYT is tabloid pseudo-news along the lines of the National Enquirer. They are the same publication that put out that hit-piece against meteorites last year where all of us were declared as a black market of illegal activity. It was little else besides slanderous statements, half-truths, and propaganda. In my eyes, what shred of journalistic integrity the NYT had (and that of the article's author) went out the window after they published that mess. I recall the IMCA even wrote a quasi-official (or official?) statement to rebut the lies and errors in the NYT article. You know an article is really really bad when the meteorite community feels it necessary to put together and release an official rebuttal. Of course, this NYT tripe will get picked up by tons of news wires and aggregators who will republish and churn it back out endlessly. While it's new, unknowing people will repost and like or recommend the article Facebook, further spreading the misinformation via social media. It's like a dirty herpes virus and I'm sure I won't be the only today playing damage control on Facebook with this latest NYT torpedo-job. This type of event is what makes me excited to wake up every morning and be involved in some small way with the world of meteorites and meteoritics. It's the reason almost everyone reading this is a member of a mailing-list like this - because Cherbarkul is what meteorite falls are all about. This is good good stuff and I loathe to see another rehash of the slanderous BS put out into the media. So if you are reading this, and later on you see a discussion in a forum/list/site somewhere about this event and somebody is quoting or referencing these craptastic NYT articles - please chime in politely but firmly and correct the misconceptions. It will be tedious, but it's necessary. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 2/19/13, Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum dori...@embarqmail.com wrote: A quote from the article: While trade in material from meteorites is largely illegal, there is a flourishing global market, with fragments widely available for sale on the Internet, usually at modest prices. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/world/europe/russian-scientists-say-they-found-meteorite-fragments.html?_r=0 Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NYT article on Chebarkul meteorite
Since the NYT has accused us 'all' of undertaking 'largely illegal activities' by trading meteorites - I say we bring a class action of libel.. ? M. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Galactic Stone Ironworks Sent: 19 February 2013 16:38 To: Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum Cc: Meteorite list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NYT article on Chebarkul meteorite The NYT is tabloid pseudo-news along the lines of the National Enquirer. They are the same publication that put out that hit-piece against meteorites last year where all of us were declared as a black market of illegal activity. It was little else besides slanderous statements, half-truths, and propaganda. In my eyes, what shred of journalistic integrity the NYT had (and that of the article's author) went out the window after they published that mess. I recall the IMCA even wrote a quasi-official (or official?) statement to rebut the lies and errors in the NYT article. You know an article is really really bad when the meteorite community feels it necessary to put together and release an official rebuttal. Of course, this NYT tripe will get picked up by tons of news wires and aggregators who will republish and churn it back out endlessly. While it's new, unknowing people will repost and like or recommend the article Facebook, further spreading the misinformation via social media. It's like a dirty herpes virus and I'm sure I won't be the only today playing damage control on Facebook with this latest NYT torpedo-job. This type of event is what makes me excited to wake up every morning and be involved in some small way with the world of meteorites and meteoritics. It's the reason almost everyone reading this is a member of a mailing-list like this - because Cherbarkul is what meteorite falls are all about. This is good good stuff and I loathe to see another rehash of the slanderous BS put out into the media. So if you are reading this, and later on you see a discussion in a forum/list/site somewhere about this event and somebody is quoting or referencing these craptastic NYT articles - please chime in politely but firmly and correct the misconceptions. It will be tedious, but it's necessary. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 2/19/13, Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum dori...@embarqmail.com wrote: A quote from the article: While trade in material from meteorites is largely illegal, there is a flourishing global market, with fragments widely available for sale on the Internet, usually at modest prices. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/world/europe/russian-scientists-say-they-found-meteorite-fragments.html?_r=0 Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NYT article on Chebarkul meteorite
The problem is, there are a few bad apples in the meteorite world. But they are an extreme minority in relation to the greater numbers of reputable and decent people involved with meteorites. That is true for every group of people on Earth, no matter how big or small. If you chooses to be biased, selective, and narrowly-focus on a single negative anecdote, then anything can be made to look bad. The art of the spin To twist the words of the Byrds' song : To everything - spin spin spin. There is a reason - spin spin spin. And a time for every purpose under attack. A time to be born, a time to lie, A time to libel, a time to slander, A time to kill, a time to shill, A time to laugh, because that article i craap ... On 2/19/13, Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote: Since the NYT has accused us 'all' of undertaking 'largely illegal activities' by trading meteorites - I say we bring a class action of libel.. ? M. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Galactic Stone Ironworks Sent: 19 February 2013 16:38 To: Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum Cc: Meteorite list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NYT article on Chebarkul meteorite The NYT is tabloid pseudo-news along the lines of the National Enquirer. They are the same publication that put out that hit-piece against meteorites last year where all of us were declared as a black market of illegal activity. It was little else besides slanderous statements, half-truths, and propaganda. In my eyes, what shred of journalistic integrity the NYT had (and that of the article's author) went out the window after they published that mess. I recall the IMCA even wrote a quasi-official (or official?) statement to rebut the lies and errors in the NYT article. You know an article is really really bad when the meteorite community feels it necessary to put together and release an official rebuttal. Of course, this NYT tripe will get picked up by tons of news wires and aggregators who will republish and churn it back out endlessly. While it's new, unknowing people will repost and like or recommend the article Facebook, further spreading the misinformation via social media. It's like a dirty herpes virus and I'm sure I won't be the only today playing damage control on Facebook with this latest NYT torpedo-job. This type of event is what makes me excited to wake up every morning and be involved in some small way with the world of meteorites and meteoritics. It's the reason almost everyone reading this is a member of a mailing-list like this - because Cherbarkul is what meteorite falls are all about. This is good good stuff and I loathe to see another rehash of the slanderous BS put out into the media. So if you are reading this, and later on you see a discussion in a forum/list/site somewhere about this event and somebody is quoting or referencing these craptastic NYT articles - please chime in politely but firmly and correct the misconceptions. It will be tedious, but it's necessary. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 2/19/13, Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum dori...@embarqmail.com wrote: A quote from the article: While trade in material from meteorites is largely illegal, there is a flourishing global market, with fragments widely available for sale on the Internet, usually at modest prices. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/world/europe/russian-scientists-say-they-found-meteorite-fragments.html?_r=0 Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
