Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
Jeff, Does the Nomenclature Committed assign official synonyms such as West as well? As they say, it is hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube once it is out. Steve Arnold Arkansas In a message dated 4/16/2009 8:02:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jgross...@usgs.gov writes: I just wanted everybody on the list to know that the Nomenclature Committee has approved the name of the recent fall near West, Texas. It will have the official name Ash Creek. See this and 38 other recent approvals at: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/ (use the What's New pulldown menu). jeff *** **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
Steve has a point there, is the new name cross correlated in some way with 'West' in the actual database? (It just came up as Ash Creek when I searched). - Just worries me it's a great way to loose a few thousand specimens of a fall, if in the future you can't cross correlate the label names! I also wonder if there was any way a name could be officially assigned at the time of a fall rather than several months after it's recovered? Out of interest, is the name that's given the nearest place/town to the first recovery, or to the majority location of the finds? How's it decided? Best, Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of meteorh...@aol.com Sent: 16 April 2009 16:45 To: jgross...@usgs.gov; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek Jeff, Does the Nomenclature Committed assign official synonyms such as West as well? As they say, it is hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube once it is out. Steve Arnold Arkansas In a message dated 4/16/2009 8:02:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jgross...@usgs.gov writes: I just wanted everybody on the list to know that the Nomenclature Committee has approved the name of the recent fall near West, Texas. It will have the official name Ash Creek. See this and 38 other recent approvals at: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/ (use the What's New pulldown menu). jeff *** **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003 ) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us. Email i...@ssl.gb.com. You should not copy or use this email or attachment(s) for any purpose nor disclose their contents to any other person. GENERAL STATEMENT: Southern Scientific Ltd's computer systems may be monitored and communications carried on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. Registered address Rectory Farm Rd, Sompting, Lancing, W Sussex BN15 0DP. Company No 1800317 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
As they say, it is hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube once it is out. Well, seriously, who let it out? In my personal understanding the NomCom of the Meteoritical Society will not necessarily care for any specific reasoning of the early finders/dealers/traders. They have to stick to and obey their own rules, and then, of course, allow some qualified discussion in between the board members, if there are different opinions, but only to come to an agreeable conclusion in the end... Don´t you think so? Just my 2 Euro-Cents :-) Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:44:52 EDT Von: meteorh...@aol.com An: jgross...@usgs.gov, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek Jeff, Does the Nomenclature Committed assign official synonyms such as West as well? As they say, it is hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube once it is out. Steve Arnold Arkansas In a message dated 4/16/2009 8:02:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jgross...@usgs.gov writes: I just wanted everybody on the list to know that the Nomenclature Committee has approved the name of the recent fall near West, Texas. It will have the official name Ash Creek. See this and 38 other recent approvals at: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/ (use the What's New pulldown menu). jeff *** **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
Urban legends are already growing: When struck by the meteorite, the creek became as ash. Steve Arnold Arkansas (synonyms: #1, the original, Brenham Steve, Birthday Boy #2, IMB) In a message dated 4/16/2009 11:51:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, majbaerm...@web.de writes: Anyway, dear colleagues, Ash Creek is a distinctive and, what concerns the evocative power, also somehow meteorite-related and not at least wonderful paradox name. With this in mind: welcome, Ash Creek! My best, Matthias Baermann **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
One problem with naming a meteorite too soon is that we end up with meteorites like Norton County, Kansas. One problem with naming a meteorite too late is that we end up with meteorites like Ash Creek. I assume that Ash Creek runs in both McLennan County and Hill County? From that aspect it is kind of appropriate. Steve Arnold Arkansas (synonyms: #1, the original, Brenham Steve, Birthday Boy #2, IMB) **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:09:49 -0700, you wrote: The other problem is that there is an Arizona meteorite classified as Little Ash Creek - confusing may be? No, just be sure to let people know that it is from the big-ash fall. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
So, does this make West and Ash Creek Officially Paired? Steve Arnold Arkansas (synonyms: #1, the original, Brenham Steve, Birthday Boy #2, IMB) **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
Perhaps Ash Creek will cost less per gram than West... ;-) Graham Ensor, UK meteorh...@aol.com wrote: So, does this make West and Ash Creek Officially Paired? Steve Arnold Arkansas (synonyms: #1, the original, Brenham Steve, Birthday Boy #2, IMB) **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2061 - Release Date: 04/15/09 19:52:00 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
Hi, I would suggest that the best way for a dealer to advertise by name would be to start off with: West, Texas (ASH CREEK), Witnessed Fall, etc... and migrate with time and familiarity to: ASH CREEK (West, Texas), Witnessed Fall, etc... Very useful invention, the parenthesis; It's like having hip pockets... handy. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: c...@alumni.caltech.edu; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek Chris, If I write a scientific paper, I will call it Ash Creek. For commercial purposes, if it isn't illegal, I will keep calling it West. After all, that is the purpose of having synonyms is so that you can call things by other names, right? There will be no confusion to me. I don't think anyone else in the community will be confused. Anyone that says Ash Creek we will know what they are saying. Anyone that uses the West name, we will know what they are saying as well. Just like if they say it is from the United States or they say it is from America. I agree with Mark that some meteorites that have already been sold with the name West might get lost in the TKW tallies. Some collections (public and private) will have West on their labels instead of Ash Creek. But 75 years from now, it will be just as easy to sort out as Toluca on a Glen Huss label is from Xiquipilco on a Nininger label... they are the same rock. The only confusion will probably be in the collector market, and I don't think the NomCom cares all that much about the collector market, or that the name West has been used in all the media references up until now. Just Google Search West Meteorite then search Ash Creek Meteorite. If they did care, the official name would have been assigned within a few days and this minor confusion would have easily been avoided. Their priority is for the scientific side of things, not the pop culture side of things. Steve Arnold Arkansas In a message dated 4/16/2009 11:33:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, c...@alumni.caltech.edu writes: Perhaps those who seek to commercially trade new falls within the first few weeks of recovery need to be a bit more careful with _their_ nomenclature. There is a reason why a formal naming process exists (and face it, West is a horrible name that should never have been used). IMO, if you're going to sell early, you shouldn't give it a name at all, just a description (the recent, as-yet-unnamed fall near West, Texas). I can say with some confidence, as somebody who only deals with meteorites in scientific collections, that this name change isn't going to cause any confusion at all. Chris **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
I think this is a very simple and rational idea that will help avoid confusion and conflicts down the road. Best, John Gwilliam At 04:03 PM 4/16/2009, Sterling K. Webb wrote: Hi, I would suggest that the best way for a dealer to advertise by name would be to start off with: West, Texas (ASH CREEK), Witnessed Fall, etc... and migrate with time and familiarity to: ASH CREEK (West, Texas), Witnessed Fall, etc... Very useful invention, the parenthesis; It's like having hip pockets... handy. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: c...@alumni.caltech.edu; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek Chris, If I write a scientific paper, I will call it Ash Creek. For commercial purposes, if it isn't illegal, I will keep calling it West. After all, that is the purpose of having synonyms is so that you can call things by other names, right? There will be no confusion to me. I don't think anyone else in the community will be confused. Anyone that says Ash Creek we will know what they are saying. Anyone that uses the West name, we will know what they are saying as well. Just like if they say it is from the United States or they say it is from America. I agree with Mark that some meteorites that have already been sold with the name West might get lost in the TKW tallies. Some collections (public and private) will have West on their labels instead of Ash Creek. But 75 years from now, it will be just as easy to sort out as Toluca on a Glen Huss label is from Xiquipilco on a Nininger label... they are the same rock. The only confusion will probably be in the collector market, and I don't think the NomCom cares all that much about the collector market, or that the name West has been used in all the media references up until now. Just Google Search West Meteorite then search Ash Creek Meteorite. If they did care, the official name would have been assigned within a few days and this minor confusion would have easily been avoided. Their priority is for the scientific side of things, not the pop culture side of things. Steve Arnold Arkansas In a message dated 4/16/2009 11:33:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, c...@alumni.caltech.edu writes: Perhaps those who seek to commercially trade new falls within the first few weeks of recovery need to be a bit more careful with _their_ nomenclature. There is a reason why a formal naming process exists (and face it, West is a horrible name that should never have been used). IMO, if you're going to sell early, you shouldn't give it a name at all, just a description (the recent, as-yet-unnamed fall near West, Texas). I can say with some confidence, as somebody who only deals with meteorites in scientific collections, that this name change isn't going to cause any confusion at all. Chris **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list John Gwilliam Too many people were born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
I agree. It's exactly what was done with Oum Dreyga (Amgala). Or should I say Amgala (Oum Dreyga)? You know what I mean! ;-) Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam j...@cox.net To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; meteorh...@aol.com; c...@alumni.caltech.edu; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek I think this is a very simple and rational idea that will help avoid confusion and conflicts down the road. Best, John Gwilliam At 04:03 PM 4/16/2009, Sterling K. Webb wrote: Hi, I would suggest that the best way for a dealer to advertise by name would be to start off with: West, Texas (ASH CREEK), Witnessed Fall, etc... and migrate with time and familiarity to: ASH CREEK (West, Texas), Witnessed Fall, etc... Very useful invention, the parenthesis; It's like having hip pockets... handy. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: c...@alumni.caltech.edu; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek Chris, If I write a scientific paper, I will call it Ash Creek. For commercial purposes, if it isn't illegal, I will keep calling it West. After all, that is the purpose of having synonyms is so that you can call things by other names, right? There will be no confusion to me. I don't think anyone else in the community will be confused. Anyone that says Ash Creek we will know what they are saying. Anyone that uses the West name, we will know what they are saying as well. Just like if they say it is from the United States or they say it is from America. I agree with Mark that some meteorites that have already been sold with the name West might get lost in the TKW tallies. Some collections (public and private) will have West on their labels instead of Ash Creek. But 75 years from now, it will be just as easy to sort out as Toluca on a Glen Huss label is from Xiquipilco on a Nininger label... they are the same rock. The only confusion will probably be in the collector market, and I don't think the NomCom cares all that much about the collector market, or that the name West has been used in all the media references up until now. Just Google Search West Meteorite then search Ash Creek Meteorite. If they did care, the official name would have been assigned within a few days and this minor confusion would have easily been avoided. Their priority is for the scientific side of things, not the pop culture side of things. Steve Arnold Arkansas In a message dated 4/16/2009 11:33:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, c...@alumni.caltech.edu writes: Perhaps those who seek to commercially trade new falls within the first few weeks of recovery need to be a bit more careful with _their_ nomenclature. There is a reason why a formal naming process exists (and face it, West is a horrible name that should never have been used). IMO, if you're going to sell early, you shouldn't give it a name at all, just a description (the recent, as-yet-unnamed fall near West, Texas). I can say with some confidence, as somebody who only deals with meteorites in scientific collections, that this name change isn't going to cause any confusion at all. Chris **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list John Gwilliam Too many people were born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
Hi Dr. Jeff and List, I, for one, am tickled that the WEST, Texas fall has been officially named anything but WEST. Years ago I became aware of the methods and criteria used by the Nomenclature Committee for naming any new fall or find. So it was obvious that the name WEST was premature. The first email I received about someone actually finding a piece of the fall (may have been Sonny- I don't remember) stated that it was found near WEST TEXAS. Well now, by gum, that name takes in a huge geographical area. Having lived in Odessa for many years, I have always heard our area termed WEST TEXAS. And it is...WEST TEXAS. I have always, arbitrarily, thought of the western part of Texas as starting around Abilene or thereabouts. A lot of folks for many years have declared that Ft. Worth is Where the west begins. Who am I to argue. West Texas officially ends just west of El Paso. It has to in that New Mexico starts there. So using Ft. Worth as a starting point (going west) and ending the trip in El Paso, we have now covered about 603 miles and are still a skosh away from the New Mexico border. If we start the trip from Abilene we'll be covering over 455 miles. I believe Darren might declare that distance to be at least an OODLE of miles, may even stretch into the next unit of measurement. I won't even go into what constitutes the southern and northern boundaries of what is considered WEST TEXAS, but there are some impressive distances there too. Most everyone who lives in the great state of Texas think of the western part of Texas when they hear the term WEST TEXAS. And that's a big place. So now you can possibly understand that every time I heard the name WEST TEXAS (and frequently written without the distinction and clarification of even a comma between the words) applied to the fall I was immediately disconcerted, discombobulated, confused, and bewildered. Contrary to popular opinion that is really not my normal state of mind. HAIL to the new meteorite ASH CREEK. Welcome aboard into the multitudinous family of existing Texas meteorites, the ones that had the good sense to aim for our great state. They knew they would be properly appreciated and cared for here. Watch for my new book The Care and Feeding of Texas Meteorites, scheduled to be on the bookstore bookshelves any time now. It would be greatly appreciated if any of you foreigners (anyone who doesn't live in Texas) who are in possession of any of our fine Texas meteorites please send them home. Just write for the correct address to mail them to. Or sending them home to Dr. Art Ehlmann at the Monnig Museum would be a good starting point. We can work out the distribution details later. Best regards from west Texas, not West, Texas, Jerry Jeff Grossman wrote: I just wanted everybody on the list to know that the Nomenclature Committee has approved the name of the recent fall near West, Texas. It will have the official name Ash Creek. See this and 38 other recent approvals at: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/ (use the What's New pulldown menu). jeff Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
Jerry, It's good to hear from a resident of west Texas. I appreciate your point of view. And your place of residence. Having grown accustomed to the unofficial name, I believe I can adjust with no serious side effects. My specimen cards (and those of most others) have a line for... Specimen name: (Ash Creek) and... Location of find/fall: (West, Texas). I believe that does it. ;^) Linton - Original Message - From: Jerry A. Wallace jwal2...@swbell.net To: MeteoriteCentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek Hi Dr. Jeff and List, I, for one, am tickled that the WEST, Texas fall has been officially named anything but WEST. Years ago I became aware of the methods and criteria used by the Nomenclature Committee for naming any new fall or find. So it was obvious that the name WEST was premature. The first email I received about someone actually finding a piece of the fall (may have been Sonny- I don't remember) stated that it was found near WEST TEXAS. Well now, by gum, that name takes in a huge geographical area. Having lived in Odessa for many years, I have always heard our area termed WEST TEXAS. And it is...WEST TEXAS. I have always, arbitrarily, thought of the western part of Texas as starting around Abilene or thereabouts. A lot of folks for many years have declared that Ft. Worth is Where the west begins. Who am I to argue. West Texas officially ends just west of El Paso. It has to in that New Mexico starts there. So using Ft. Worth as a starting point (going west) and ending the trip in El Paso, we have now covered about 603 miles and are still a skosh away from the New Mexico border. If we start the trip from Abilene we'll be covering over 455 miles. I believe Darren might declare that distance to be at least an OODLE of miles, may even stretch into the next unit of measurement. I won't even go into what constitutes the southern and northern boundaries of what is considered WEST TEXAS, but there are some impressive distances there too. Most everyone who lives in the great state of Texas think of the western part of Texas when they hear the term WEST TEXAS. And that's a big place. So now you can possibly understand that every time I heard the name WEST TEXAS (and frequently written without the distinction and clarification of even a comma between the words) applied to the fall I was immediately disconcerted, discombobulated, confused, and bewildered. Contrary to popular opinion that is really not my normal state of mind. HAIL to the new meteorite ASH CREEK. Welcome aboard into the multitudinous family of existing Texas meteorites, the ones that had the good sense to aim for our great state. They knew they would be properly appreciated and cared for here. Watch for my new book The Care and Feeding of Texas Meteorites, scheduled to be on the bookstore bookshelves any time now. It would be greatly appreciated if any of you foreigners (anyone who doesn't live in Texas) who are in possession of any of our fine Texas meteorites please send them home. Just write for the correct address to mail them to. Or sending them home to Dr. Art Ehlmann at the Monnig Museum would be a good starting point. We can work out the distribution details later. Best regards from west Texas, not West, Texas, Jerry Jeff Grossman wrote: I just wanted everybody on the list to know that the Nomenclature Committee has approved the name of the recent fall near West, Texas. It will have the official name Ash Creek. See this and 38 other recent approvals at: http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/ (use the What's New pulldown menu). jeff Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
