Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update
Hey Bob, Anita, List, Thanks for the plug for Spacifieds! I appreciate it. ;) No problem, Eric. :-) Also, Thank you very much for the kind words on what I'm doing Bob. I'm trying against all odds, and fighting upstream and uphill, but it seems to be working. We'll see. It does look good. Keep up the great work. I don't know about you, but I would certainly like better to read about something that is contributing to the meteorite and astronomy world and community as a whole, rather than the negative posts that's been posted of late. Not to get into anything heavy, but I've written LONG emails that I have not posted to the list concerning this issue. Rather than post more negative content, I wanted to actually contribute something instead. Something for everyone to use and enjoy. To sum it up. If they can post their negative stuff without consequences so can I! Simple as that. Sorry if that sounds petty or harsh or like a double standard but sometimes the truth hurts. You are comparing apples to oranges. I never said, nor implied, that I wanted to see negative posts or other off topic posts versus your ads. No one ever asked Would you rather see Eric's ads or negative posts? Pick one. That's not at issue here. Before anyone judges me, my posts or my sites, I'd like you to think back about the last month or two and the posts to the list, and you'll be forced to agree that my posts, are NOTHING compared to the libelous, and flaming attacks that EVERYONE has had to deal with. Again, this is not the issue or question. No matter how many negative or off-topic posts there are, it doesn't give you or anyone else the right to break the rules. I don't have to make it, I don't have to offer free ads, I don't have to give away free links to dealer sites, I don't have to pay the fees it costs me to run the site, I don't have to spend the time designing it, I don't have to spend countless hours building and marketing it, I don't have to build sites for other people on list, I don't have to help people with their advertising in this down economy, I don't have to do anything concerning this list. I do it because I genuinely want to, and because I want to contribute something to the community! NOT solely to make money or sell ad space. And I'm sure everyone is glad you are doing this for the meteorite community. For that, I thank you sincerely. I ask everyone, honestly which is worse? My so called ads or the vitriol that's been spewed forth on this list the last couple months! If you can answer that honestly I want to here from you. Again, why do you compare what everyone else is doing to justify why you broke the rule? It doesn't matter which is worse. Bad is bad. Breaking the rules is bad. The level of badness (yeah, I know, it's not a word) doesn't matter. By the way, take a look at my new site and take part. Don't just complain about my posts. Have any of you actually gone to the site and tried it? Yes, your site is good. I have not posted anything to it, but I can see it is a good site. I won't beat this dead horse anymore. Regards, Bob Bob Loeffler wrote: Oh my god, Eric! Enough! Please. I know you are trying to provide a much-needed service to everyone, but you said a few days ago that your posts are not Ads, yet they really are. They are more annoying than most other peoples' ads and you are trying to pull more and more people to see your websites, so in effect, THEY ARE ADS. Did Billy Mays reincarnate himself in your body??? :-) Even if YOU are not selling meteorite specimens on your Spacifieds.com website, and the service that you are making available is free to others, it is still an advertisement because ads don't have to result in direct sales; you are drumming up visits to your websites where you are trying to rent ad space on your websites (P.S. I still have 5 (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites USA home page. $99 year or $150 for both Meteorites USA and MeteoriteBlog.com...), so that's obviously an ad. You are sending out one or two of these updates every day. Only ONE per week, please. Maybe at the end of the week you can tell us about all of the new features or new websites in ONE e-mail. BTW, I don't have a problem with your website or content; I actually like what you are doing. It's the announcements/ads that are breaking the rules. Maybe I'm wrong... and if I am, I'm sure a few people will tell me. :-) Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Meteorites USA Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:23 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Hi guys, Just a quick email to say thanks for over 2000 Hits! Spacifieds.com - Over - 2400 Hits In Less than 48 hrs Over - 400+ unique visitors
Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update
Hi list, I was also very sceptic in the beginning about that spacifieds-thing. But for testing, I tried to post an ad - and the handling, it is easy as a pie. Just some fields in a form, a text, photos no matter how small or large, press the button, ready. No 800,000 different options like in ebay, where nobody knows, where they should be good for, no endless choices of design, style, templates, no ebay bafflegab, no accounts, no formatting troubles, no paypal-terrorism, no spam and no secret knowledge of the typist guild necessary. And no auctions, no reverse auctions, no Dutch auctions, no 100 pieces left auctions, no is-an-auctions-but-if-I-get-an-offer-it-is-no-auction-anymore-but-gone-aucti ons, no startprice-auctions - no pressure of time, but the ingenious concept, that the people simply say, what they want for their stones!! BEST IS, you don't have to register, if you buy there! No obligations, just simply study the offers, and if you are interested in a piece, use the form to send a message to the offerer. No hundred clicks until you're finally at your destination, much faster than ebay and other lists of classifieds. So as frightened we all are about Eric's sometimes brash impetus to invent in meteoritics everything completely new ;-) I can't say it else, as this time he made it really, really good! Yah, Tweets, Twitter, Blogs, Feeds and deeds... don't worry, we old people all don't have any idea, what that should be good for, IMPORTANT is: you don't have to know how such stuff is working and you don't have to care for it at all, when you're reading the classifieds or when you post an ad - that thing makes all automatically. Hence very comfort. So I think, that spacified definitely deserves a try, has all preconditions to get a nice marketplace for meteorites. So take a look and give that spacified.com a chance, that it won't die like so many other new attempts. You'll find now, in the beginning already some good and some very good specimens there (3 are from me) - check it out! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Meteorites USA Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. August 2009 23:23 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Hi guys, Just a quick email to say thanks for over 2000 Hits! Spacifieds.com - Over - 2400 Hits In Less than 48 hrs Over - 400+ unique visitors have either posted ads or visited 46 Total Ads Posted Not too shabby for a brand new site... Thanks Guys! Spacifieds.com is Free to post your items for sale of trade Auto Tweet: Automatically posts all ad listings to the Official Spacifieds.com Twitter page LIVE! For FREE! ReTweet Button - In ALL ad listing. Allows visitors and you to retweet any ad posting! You can even Retweet your own ad listing directly to Twitter! Free Meteorite Contest: Get the most views on your ad listing and get this meteorite: http://www.spacifieds.com/meteorites/free-meteorite-contest-post-ads-win-det ails/ UPDATE - Current CONTEST Leader: Pictorial Catalogue On One Hundred Indian Meteorites (1999) (99 views) Posting a link to this would be unfair, so I'll let you check it out if you want to see it. Ebay Links: YES! You are allowed to post your individual Ebay Auction links or links to your Ebay store in your ad listings. Dealers: YES! you can include links directly to your Spacifieds ad listings in your emails and advertisements just like you do with your Ebay auctions. The links are search engine friendly too, meaning Google likes them. And there's no symbols or nonsense that could cause broken links. BlogRoll Link: Free Blogroll link to your astronomy or meteorite related website just for posting 10 ads or more. This link is visible to visitors on EVERY page of the site. Premium Featured AD Space: Top Of Every Page! I've added 18 spots! 50x50 pixel banner ads at the top of the site. These ads display on EVERY page of the site! There's really a lot more but you have to join to find out. http://www.spacifieds.com What are you waiting for. Thanks everyone, for all your help, advice, and feedback, maybe this could actually turn into something useful for the meteorite and astronomy community. I know you can use it, and hope you like it! Also I just wanted to say, Spacifieds is not limited to meteorites. If you're an amateur or professional astronomer, astronomy buff, or scientist you're more than welcome to post your astronomy related classified free. Trade items and Wanted ad listings are welcome too. Got an old collection of Astronomy magazines you want to sell? Space related comics? How about an old telescope, or collectible lithograph? Maybe you have a digital camera, or some other electronic device. Scientific equipment is also welcome. Microscopes, scales, testing equipment, lab equipment. Basically anything related to astronomy
Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update
I'm still trying to get one of my ads to post properly. I keep getting error messages. But I agree that it looks promising. :) On 8/26/09, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Hi list, I was also very sceptic in the beginning about that spacifieds-thing. But for testing, I tried to post an ad - and the handling, it is easy as a pie. Just some fields in a form, a text, photos no matter how small or large, press the button, ready. No 800,000 different options like in ebay, where nobody knows, where they should be good for, no endless choices of design, style, templates, no ebay bafflegab, no accounts, no formatting troubles, no paypal-terrorism, no spam and no secret knowledge of the typist guild necessary. And no auctions, no reverse auctions, no Dutch auctions, no 100 pieces left auctions, no is-an-auctions-but-if-I-get-an-offer-it-is-no-auction-anymore-but-gone-aucti ons, no startprice-auctions - no pressure of time, but the ingenious concept, that the people simply say, what they want for their stones!! BEST IS, you don't have to register, if you buy there! No obligations, just simply study the offers, and if you are interested in a piece, use the form to send a message to the offerer. No hundred clicks until you're finally at your destination, much faster than ebay and other lists of classifieds. So as frightened we all are about Eric's sometimes brash impetus to invent in meteoritics everything completely new ;-) I can't say it else, as this time he made it really, really good! Yah, Tweets, Twitter, Blogs, Feeds and deeds... don't worry, we old people all don't have any idea, what that should be good for, IMPORTANT is: you don't have to know how such stuff is working and you don't have to care for it at all, when you're reading the classifieds or when you post an ad - that thing makes all automatically. Hence very comfort. So I think, that spacified definitely deserves a try, has all preconditions to get a nice marketplace for meteorites. So take a look and give that spacified.com a chance, that it won't die like so many other new attempts. You'll find now, in the beginning already some good and some very good specimens there (3 are from me) - check it out! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Meteorites USA Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. August 2009 23:23 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Hi guys, Just a quick email to say thanks for over 2000 Hits! Spacifieds.com - Over - 2400 Hits In Less than 48 hrs Over - 400+ unique visitors have either posted ads or visited 46 Total Ads Posted Not too shabby for a brand new site... Thanks Guys! Spacifieds.com is Free to post your items for sale of trade Auto Tweet: Automatically posts all ad listings to the Official Spacifieds.com Twitter page LIVE! For FREE! ReTweet Button - In ALL ad listing. Allows visitors and you to retweet any ad posting! You can even Retweet your own ad listing directly to Twitter! Free Meteorite Contest: Get the most views on your ad listing and get this meteorite: http://www.spacifieds.com/meteorites/free-meteorite-contest-post-ads-win-det ails/ UPDATE - Current CONTEST Leader: Pictorial Catalogue On One Hundred Indian Meteorites (1999) (99 views) Posting a link to this would be unfair, so I'll let you check it out if you want to see it. Ebay Links: YES! You are allowed to post your individual Ebay Auction links or links to your Ebay store in your ad listings. Dealers: YES! you can include links directly to your Spacifieds ad listings in your emails and advertisements just like you do with your Ebay auctions. The links are search engine friendly too, meaning Google likes them. And there's no symbols or nonsense that could cause broken links. BlogRoll Link: Free Blogroll link to your astronomy or meteorite related website just for posting 10 ads or more. This link is visible to visitors on EVERY page of the site. Premium Featured AD Space: Top Of Every Page! I've added 18 spots! 50x50 pixel banner ads at the top of the site. These ads display on EVERY page of the site! There's really a lot more but you have to join to find out. http://www.spacifieds.com What are you waiting for. Thanks everyone, for all your help, advice, and feedback, maybe this could actually turn into something useful for the meteorite and astronomy community. I know you can use it, and hope you like it! Also I just wanted to say, Spacifieds is not limited to meteorites. If you're an amateur or professional astronomer, astronomy buff, or scientist you're more than welcome to post your astronomy related classified free. Trade items and Wanted ad listings are welcome too. Got an old collection of Astronomy magazines you want to sell? Space related
Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update
Oh my god, Eric! Enough! Please. I know you are trying to provide a much-needed service to everyone, but you said a few days ago that your posts are not Ads, yet they really are. They are more annoying than most other peoples' ads and you are trying to pull more and more people to see your websites, so in effect, THEY ARE ADS. Did Billy Mays reincarnate himself in your body??? :-) Even if YOU are not selling meteorite specimens on your Spacifieds.com website, and the service that you are making available is free to others, it is still an advertisement because ads don't have to result in direct sales; you are drumming up visits to your websites where you are trying to rent ad space on your websites (P.S. I still have 5 (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites USA home page. $99 year or $150 for both Meteorites USA and MeteoriteBlog.com...), so that's obviously an ad. You are sending out one or two of these updates every day. Only ONE per week, please. Maybe at the end of the week you can tell us about all of the new features or new websites in ONE e-mail. BTW, I don't have a problem with your website or content; I actually like what you are doing. It's the announcements/ads that are breaking the rules. Maybe I'm wrong... and if I am, I'm sure a few people will tell me. :-) Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Meteorites USA Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:23 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Hi guys, Just a quick email to say thanks for over 2000 Hits! Spacifieds.com - Over - 2400 Hits In Less than 48 hrs Over - 400+ unique visitors have either posted ads or visited 46 Total Ads Posted Not too shabby for a brand new site... Thanks Guys! Spacifieds.com is Free to post your items for sale of trade Auto Tweet: Automatically posts all ad listings to the Official Spacifieds.com Twitter page LIVE! For FREE! ReTweet Button - In ALL ad listing. Allows visitors and you to retweet any ad posting! You can even Retweet your own ad listing directly to Twitter! Free Meteorite Contest: Get the most views on your ad listing and get this meteorite: http://www.spacifieds.com/meteorites/free-meteorite-contest-post-ads-win-det ails/ UPDATE - Current CONTEST Leader: Pictorial Catalogue On One Hundred Indian Meteorites (1999) (99 views) Posting a link to this would be unfair, so I'll let you check it out if you want to see it. Ebay Links: YES! You are allowed to post your individual Ebay Auction links or links to your Ebay store in your ad listings. Dealers: YES! you can include links directly to your Spacifieds ad listings in your emails and advertisements just like you do with your Ebay auctions. The links are search engine friendly too, meaning Google likes them. And there's no symbols or nonsense that could cause broken links. BlogRoll Link: Free Blogroll link to your astronomy or meteorite related website just for posting 10 ads or more. This link is visible to visitors on EVERY page of the site. Premium Featured AD Space: Top Of Every Page! I've added 18 spots! 50x50 pixel banner ads at the top of the site. These ads display on EVERY page of the site! There's really a lot more but you have to join to find out. http://www.spacifieds.com What are you waiting for. Thanks everyone, for all your help, advice, and feedback, maybe this could actually turn into something useful for the meteorite and astronomy community. I know you can use it, and hope you like it! Also I just wanted to say, Spacifieds is not limited to meteorites. If you're an amateur or professional astronomer, astronomy buff, or scientist you're more than welcome to post your astronomy related classified free. Trade items and Wanted ad listings are welcome too. Got an old collection of Astronomy magazines you want to sell? Space related comics? How about an old telescope, or collectible lithograph? Maybe you have a digital camera, or some other electronic device. Scientific equipment is also welcome. Microscopes, scales, testing equipment, lab equipment. Basically anything related to astronomy can be listed for free. Buy, Sell, Trade, and Wanted listings. Enjoy... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Spacifieds.com P.S. I still have 5 (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites USA home page. $99 year or $150 for both Meteorites USA and MeteoriteBlog.com http://www.meteoritesusa.com/ads.htm __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.64/2318 - Release Date: 08/25/09 18:07:00 __
Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update
Hi Bob and List: I agree. Thank you for taking the time and trouble to say this. I have had to BLOCK Eric's emails for weeks now. Enough is quite enough.. Eric has abused his privileges and this list. Play nice or I have nothing more to say to you. Anita - Original Message From: Bob Loeffler b...@peaktopeak.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:04:13 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Oh my god, Eric! Enough! Please. I know you are trying to provide a much-needed service to everyone, but you said a few days ago that your posts are not Ads, yet they really are. They are more annoying than most other peoples' ads and you are trying to pull more and more people to see your websites, so in effect, THEY ARE ADS. Did Billy Mays reincarnate himself in your body??? :-) Even if YOU are not selling meteorite specimens on your Spacifieds.com website, and the service that you are making available is free to others, it is still an advertisement because ads don't have to result in direct sales; you are drumming up visits to your websites where you are trying to rent ad space on your websites (P.S. I still have 5 (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites USA home page. $99 year or $150 for both Meteorites USA and MeteoriteBlog.com...), so that's obviously an ad. You are sending out one or two of these updates every day. Only ONE per week, please. Maybe at the end of the week you can tell us about all of the new features or new websites in ONE e-mail. BTW, I don't have a problem with your website or content; I actually like what you are doing. It's the announcements/ads that are breaking the rules. Maybe I'm wrong... and if I am, I'm sure a few people will tell me. :-) Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Meteorites USA Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:23 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Hi guys, Just a quick email to say thanks for over 2000 Hits! Spacifieds.com - Over - 2400 Hits In Less than 48 hrs Over - 400+ unique visitors have either posted ads or visited 46 Total Ads Posted Not too shabby for a brand new site... Thanks Guys! Spacifieds.com is Free to post your items for sale of trade Auto Tweet: Automatically posts all ad listings to the Official Spacifieds.com Twitter page LIVE! For FREE! ReTweet Button - In ALL ad listing. Allows visitors and you to retweet any ad posting! You can even Retweet your own ad listing directly to Twitter! Free Meteorite Contest: Get the most views on your ad listing and get this meteorite: http://www.spacifieds.com/meteorites/free-meteorite-contest-post-ads-win-det ails/ UPDATE - Current CONTEST Leader: Pictorial Catalogue On One Hundred Indian Meteorites (1999) (99 views) Posting a link to this would be unfair, so I'll let you check it out if you want to see it. Ebay Links: YES! You are allowed to post your individual Ebay Auction links or links to your Ebay store in your ad listings. Dealers: YES! you can include links directly to your Spacifieds ad listings in your emails and advertisements just like you do with your Ebay auctions. The links are search engine friendly too, meaning Google likes them. And there's no symbols or nonsense that could cause broken links. BlogRoll Link: Free Blogroll link to your astronomy or meteorite related website just for posting 10 ads or more. This link is visible to visitors on EVERY page of the site. Premium Featured AD Space: Top Of Every Page! I've added 18 spots! 50x50 pixel banner ads at the top of the site. These ads display on EVERY page of the site! There's really a lot more but you have to join to find out. http://www.spacifieds.com What are you waiting for. Thanks everyone, for all your help, advice, and feedback, maybe this could actually turn into something useful for the meteorite and astronomy community. I know you can use it, and hope you like it! Also I just wanted to say, Spacifieds is not limited to meteorites. If you're an amateur or professional astronomer, astronomy buff, or scientist you're more than welcome to post your astronomy related classified free. Trade items and Wanted ad listings are welcome too. Got an old collection of Astronomy magazines you want to sell? Space related comics? How about an old telescope, or collectible lithograph? Maybe you have a digital camera, or some other electronic device. Scientific equipment is also welcome. Microscopes, scales, testing equipment, lab equipment. Basically anything related to astronomy can be listed for free. Buy, Sell, Trade, and Wanted listings. Enjoy... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Spacifieds.com P.S. I still have 5 (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites USA home page. $99 year or $150 for both Meteorites
Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update
Hey Bob, Anita, List, Thanks for the plug for Spacifieds! I appreciate it. ;) Also, Thank you very much for the kind words on what I'm doing Bob. I'm trying against all odds, and fighting upstream and uphill, but it seems to be working. We'll see. I don't know about you, but I would certainly like better to read about something that is contributing to the meteorite and astronomy world and community as a whole, rather than the negative posts that's been posted of late. Not to get into anything heavy, but I've written LONG emails that I have not posted to the list concerning this issue. Rather than post more negative content, I wanted to actually contribute something instead. Something for everyone to use and enjoy. To sum it up. If they can post their negative stuff without consequences so can I! Simple as that. Sorry if that sounds petty or harsh or like a double standard but sometimes the truth hurts. If Art would like to suspend or take action against me for it then that is his prerogative, and he needs to take action against EVERYONE else that has broken the rules. If this thread turns into something else I will post ALL my long emails which I chose not to post, and I will subside into the realm of the lurkers. For now... Anita I appreciate your honesty and bluntness, I apologize for causing you any grief or making you feel that you needed to block my emails. There was NO disrespect meant. But I CANNOT nor will I apologize for my posts. Period. No offense, and no disrespect intended to anyone. (hopefully someone will forward this to her if she still has my email blocked.) Before anyone judges me, my posts or my sites, I'd like you to think back about the last month or two and the posts to the list, and you'll be forced to agree that my posts, are NOTHING compared to the libelous, and flaming attacks that EVERYONE has had to deal with. I would rather keep it light, and positive in nature. I created the Spacifieds.com for everyone, and that's why I've announced it and given you guys updates to garner the excitement that it will take to launch this site into a successful platform for both the meteorite and astronomy communities. I don't have to make it, I don't have to offer free ads, I don't have to give away free links to dealer sites, I don't have to pay the fees it costs me to run the site, I don't have to spend the time designing it, I don't have to spend countless hours building and marketing it, I don't have to build sites for other people on list, I don't have to help people with their advertising in this down economy, I don't have to do anything concerning this list. I do it because I genuinely want to, and because I want to contribute something to the community! NOT solely to make money or sell ad space. I ask everyone, honestly which is worse? My so called ads or the vitriol that's been spewed forth on this list the last couple months! If you can answer that honestly I want to here from you. By the way, take a look at my new site and take part. Don't just complain about my posts. Have any of you actually gone to the site and tried it? You should... It is after all made for you guys! Thanks everyone! Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Spacifieds.com Bob Loeffler wrote: Oh my god, Eric! Enough! Please. I know you are trying to provide a much-needed service to everyone, but you said a few days ago that your posts are not Ads, yet they really are. They are more annoying than most other peoples' ads and you are trying to pull more and more people to see your websites, so in effect, THEY ARE ADS. Did Billy Mays reincarnate himself in your body??? :-) Even if YOU are not selling meteorite specimens on your Spacifieds.com website, and the service that you are making available is free to others, it is still an advertisement because ads don't have to result in direct sales; you are drumming up visits to your websites where you are trying to rent ad space on your websites (P.S. I still have 5 (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites USA home page. $99 year or $150 for both Meteorites USA and MeteoriteBlog.com...), so that's obviously an ad. You are sending out one or two of these updates every day. Only ONE per week, please. Maybe at the end of the week you can tell us about all of the new features or new websites in ONE e-mail. BTW, I don't have a problem with your website or content; I actually like what you are doing. It's the announcements/ads that are breaking the rules. Maybe I'm wrong... and if I am, I'm sure a few people will tell me. :-) Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Meteorites USA Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:23 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Hi guys, Just a quick email to say thanks for over 2000
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Hi Eric: I wish I could accept your emails, but they still seem like spam to me. I appreciate what you're doing for the community; I really do. I just don't have time for it. Keep on keeping on, Anita - Original Message From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Bob Loeffler b...@peaktopeak.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:11:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Hey Bob, Anita, List, Thanks for the plug for Spacifieds! I appreciate it. ;) Also, Thank you very much for the kind words on what I'm doing Bob. I'm trying against all odds, and fighting upstream and uphill, but it seems to be working. We'll see. I don't know about you, but I would certainly like better to read about something that is contributing to the meteorite and astronomy world and community as a whole, rather than the negative posts that's been posted of late. Not to get into anything heavy, but I've written LONG emails that I have not posted to the list concerning this issue. Rather than post more negative content, I wanted to actually contribute something instead. Something for everyone to use and enjoy. To sum it up. If they can post their negative stuff without consequences so can I! Simple as that. Sorry if that sounds petty or harsh or like a double standard but sometimes the truth hurts. If Art would like to suspend or take action against me for it then that is his prerogative, and he needs to take action against EVERYONE else that has broken the rules. If this thread turns into something else I will post ALL my long emails which I chose not to post, and I will subside into the realm of the lurkers. For now... Anita I appreciate your honesty and bluntness, I apologize for causing you any grief or making you feel that you needed to block my emails. There was NO disrespect meant. But I CANNOT nor will I apologize for my posts. Period. No offense, and no disrespect intended to anyone. (hopefully someone will forward this to her if she still has my email blocked.) Before anyone judges me, my posts or my sites, I'd like you to think back about the last month or two and the posts to the list, and you'll be forced to agree that my posts, are NOTHING compared to the libelous, and flaming attacks that EVERYONE has had to deal with. I would rather keep it light, and positive in nature. I created the Spacifieds.com for everyone, and that's why I've announced it and given you guys updates to garner the excitement that it will take to launch this site into a successful platform for both the meteorite and astronomy communities. I don't have to make it, I don't have to offer free ads, I don't have to give away free links to dealer sites, I don't have to pay the fees it costs me to run the site, I don't have to spend the time designing it, I don't have to spend countless hours building and marketing it, I don't have to build sites for other people on list, I don't have to help people with their advertising in this down economy, I don't have to do anything concerning this list. I do it because I genuinely want to, and because I want to contribute something to the community! NOT solely to make money or sell ad space. I ask everyone, honestly which is worse? My so called ads or the vitriol that's been spewed forth on this list the last couple months! If you can answer that honestly I want to here from you. By the way, take a look at my new site and take part. Don't just complain about my posts. Have any of you actually gone to the site and tried it? You should... It is after all made for you guys! Thanks everyone! Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Spacifieds.com Bob Loeffler wrote: Oh my god, Eric! Enough! Please. I know you are trying to provide a much-needed service to everyone, but you said a few days ago that your posts are not Ads, yet they really are. They are more annoying than most other peoples' ads and you are trying to pull more and more people to see your websites, so in effect, THEY ARE ADS. Did Billy Mays reincarnate himself in your body??? :-) Even if YOU are not selling meteorite specimens on your Spacifieds.com website, and the service that you are making available is free to others, it is still an advertisement because ads don't have to result in direct sales; you are drumming up visits to your websites where you are trying to rent ad space on your websites (P.S. I still have 5 (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites USA home page. $99 year or $150 for both Meteorites USA and MeteoriteBlog.com...), so that's obviously an ad. You are sending out one or two of these updates every day. Only ONE per week, please. Maybe at the end of the week you can tell us about all of the new features or new websites in ONE e-mail. BTW, I don't have a problem with your website or content; I actually like what you are doing. It's the announcements/ads
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Hi Anita, Thank you! That means a lot to me... I will keep on... You all can count on that. ;) Regards, Eric Anita Westlake wrote: Hi Eric: I wish I could accept your emails, but they still seem like spam to me. I appreciate what you're doing for the community; I really do. I just don't have time for it. Keep on keeping on, Anita - Original Message From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Bob Loeffler b...@peaktopeak.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:11:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Hey Bob, Anita, List, Thanks for the plug for Spacifieds! I appreciate it. ;) Also, Thank you very much for the kind words on what I'm doing Bob. I'm trying against all odds, and fighting upstream and uphill, but it seems to be working. We'll see. I don't know about you, but I would certainly like better to read about something that is contributing to the meteorite and astronomy world and community as a whole, rather than the negative posts that's been posted of late. Not to get into anything heavy, but I've written LONG emails that I have not posted to the list concerning this issue. Rather than post more negative content, I wanted to actually contribute something instead. Something for everyone to use and enjoy. To sum it up. If they can post their negative stuff without consequences so can I! Simple as that. Sorry if that sounds petty or harsh or like a double standard but sometimes the truth hurts. If Art would like to suspend or take action against me for it then that is his prerogative, and he needs to take action against EVERYONE else that has broken the rules. If this thread turns into something else I will post ALL my long emails which I chose not to post, and I will subside into the realm of the lurkers. For now... Anita I appreciate your honesty and bluntness, I apologize for causing you any grief or making you feel that you needed to block my emails. There was NO disrespect meant. But I CANNOT nor will I apologize for my posts. Period. No offense, and no disrespect intended to anyone. (hopefully someone will forward this to her if she still has my email blocked.) Before anyone judges me, my posts or my sites, I'd like you to think back about the last month or two and the posts to the list, and you'll be forced to agree that my posts, are NOTHING compared to the libelous, and flaming attacks that EVERYONE has had to deal with. I would rather keep it light, and positive in nature. I created the Spacifieds.com for everyone, and that's why I've announced it and given you guys updates to garner the excitement that it will take to launch this site into a successful platform for both the meteorite and astronomy communities. I don't have to make it, I don't have to offer free ads, I don't have to give away free links to dealer sites, I don't have to pay the fees it costs me to run the site, I don't have to spend the time designing it, I don't have to spend countless hours building and marketing it, I don't have to build sites for other people on list, I don't have to help people with their advertising in this down economy, I don't have to do anything concerning this list. I do it because I genuinely want to, and because I want to contribute something to the community! NOT solely to make money or sell ad space. I ask everyone, honestly which is worse? My so called ads or the vitriol that's been spewed forth on this list the last couple months! If you can answer that honestly I want to here from you. By the way, take a look at my new site and take part. Don't just complain about my posts. Have any of you actually gone to the site and tried it? You should... It is after all made for you guys! Thanks everyone! Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA Spacifieds.com Bob Loeffler wrote: Oh my god, Eric! Enough! Please. I know you are trying to provide a much-needed service to everyone, but you said a few days ago that your posts are not Ads, yet they really are. They are more annoying than most other peoples' ads and you are trying to pull more and more people to see your websites, so in effect, THEY ARE ADS. Did Billy Mays reincarnate himself in your body??? :-) Even if YOU are not selling meteorite specimens on your Spacifieds.com website, and the service that you are making available is free to others, it is still an advertisement because ads don't have to result in direct sales; you are drumming up visits to your websites where you are trying to rent ad space on your websites (P.S. I still have 5 (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites USA home page. $99 year or $150 for both Meteorites USA and MeteoriteBlog.com...), so that's obviously an ad. You are sending out one or two of these updates every day. Only ONE per week, please. Maybe at the end of the week you can tell us about all of the new features or new websites in ONE e-mail. BTW
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Martin, Thanks! I couldn't ask for a better review. I appreciate it. 3 ads? That's wonderful... Now, go post more ads... ;) More ads mean more buyers! Regards, Eric Martin Altmann wrote: Hi list, I was also very sceptic in the beginning about that spacifieds-thing. But for testing, I tried to post an ad - and the handling, it is easy as a pie. Just some fields in a form, a text, photos no matter how small or large, press the button, ready. No 800,000 different options like in ebay, where nobody knows, where they should be good for, no endless choices of design, style, templates, no ebay bafflegab, no accounts, no formatting troubles, no paypal-terrorism, no spam and no secret knowledge of the typist guild necessary. And no auctions, no reverse auctions, no Dutch auctions, no 100 pieces left auctions, no is-an-auctions-but-if-I-get-an-offer-it-is-no-auction-anymore-but-gone-aucti ons, no startprice-auctions - no pressure of time, but the ingenious concept, that the people simply say, what they want for their stones!! BEST IS, you don't have to register, if you buy there! No obligations, just simply study the offers, and if you are interested in a piece, use the form to send a message to the offerer. No hundred clicks until you're finally at your destination, much faster than ebay and other lists of classifieds. So as frightened we all are about Eric's sometimes brash impetus to invent in meteoritics everything completely new ;-) I can't say it else, as this time he made it really, really good! Yah, Tweets, Twitter, Blogs, Feeds and deeds... don't worry, we old people all don't have any idea, what that should be good for, IMPORTANT is: you don't have to know how such stuff is working and you don't have to care for it at all, when you're reading the classifieds or when you post an ad - that thing makes all automatically. Hence very comfort. So I think, that spacified definitely deserves a try, has all preconditions to get a nice marketplace for meteorites. So take a look and give that spacified.com a chance, that it won't die like so many other new attempts. You'll find now, in the beginning already some good and some very good specimens there (3 are from me) - check it out! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Meteorites USA Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. August 2009 23:23 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits Contest Update Hi guys, Just a quick email to say thanks for over 2000 Hits! Spacifieds.com - Over - 2400 Hits In Less than 48 hrs Over - 400+ unique visitors have either posted ads or visited 46 Total Ads Posted Not too shabby for a brand new site... Thanks Guys! Spacifieds.com is Free to post your items for sale of trade Auto Tweet: Automatically posts all ad listings to the Official Spacifieds.com Twitter page LIVE! For FREE! ReTweet Button - In ALL ad listing. Allows visitors and you to retweet any ad posting! You can even Retweet your own ad listing directly to Twitter! Free Meteorite Contest: Get the most views on your ad listing and get this meteorite: http://www.spacifieds.com/meteorites/free-meteorite-contest-post-ads-win-det ails/ UPDATE - Current CONTEST Leader: Pictorial Catalogue On One Hundred Indian Meteorites (1999) (99 views) Posting a link to this would be unfair, so I'll let you check it out if you want to see it. Ebay Links: YES! You are allowed to post your individual Ebay Auction links or links to your Ebay store in your ad listings. Dealers: YES! you can include links directly to your Spacifieds ad listings in your emails and advertisements just like you do with your Ebay auctions. The links are search engine friendly too, meaning Google likes them. And there's no symbols or nonsense that could cause broken links. BlogRoll Link: Free Blogroll link to your astronomy or meteorite related website just for posting 10 ads or more. This link is visible to visitors on EVERY page of the site. Premium Featured AD Space: Top Of Every Page! I've added 18 spots! 50x50 pixel banner ads at the top of the site. These ads display on EVERY page of the site! There's really a lot more but you have to join to find out. http://www.spacifieds.com What are you waiting for. Thanks everyone, for all your help, advice, and feedback, maybe this could actually turn into something useful for the meteorite and astronomy community. I know you can use it, and hope you like it! Also I just wanted to say, Spacifieds is not limited to meteorites. If you're an amateur or professional astronomer, astronomy buff, or scientist you're more than welcome to post your astronomy related classified free. Trade items and Wanted ad listings are welcome too. Got an old collection of Astronomy magazines you want to sell? Space related comics? How about an old telescope, or collectible lithograph?
