Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite Collection stollen !!!!

2013-03-13 Thread The Earth's Memory

Carl,

What honest man takes a crate from UPS and replaces the merchandise with 
asphalt ?


 That is theft.

if some of THESE specimens are sold on public sites that link to the 
thieves accomplices, what is it ?


AND stealing a storage box (storage for witch we have invoices), asking 
people to come at night ALONE and force them against their wish to give 
valuables items,  is it extortion or racketerring ? how do you call it ?


sorry if our English is so poor but in France these two events are 
considered as major Crimes, when they are

premeditated and done in group, it triple the Court sentences.

Sincerely,

Bruno & Carine


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Collectionstollen 




Bruno and Carine,
We have been friends for a long time and you two have always been a joy to 
visit with. I have nothing against you but, like Elton said. This is a 
civil (money) matter more than a criminal (jail)  matter. A better word 
for you to use here is " leveraged" instead of "extortion". Too me it 
looks like they used leverage to collect a debt not extortion. They 
convinced you to offer up a bunch of your inventory as compensation  for a 
debt you owed them ?
Anybody that walked into Sean's room saw what was once your material 
because it was openly being marketed for sale. I know you know this 
because I saw you in meetings with Sean himself and he later told me he 
thought you were "pretty cool" but, he had nothing to do with your 
settlement with Braheem (sp).
The time to cry " wolf"  was during the show. Not weeks later and if these 
folks had access to your shipments their must have been a reason. If they 
had access they could argue the shipment belonged to them. Again, like 
Elton said, this sounds like a civil action where you would need to sue 
them but, to claim theft in the United States you are presumed innocent 
until proven guilty.
You are yourself at risk of a libel law suit being filed against you and I 
would think all of you will piss away a lot of money on lawyers.

I hope you guys work this out and clear each others good names.
Best to all,
Carl
--
Cheers

 The Earth's Memory  wrote:

Carl,

please send us the list of these people, witnesses are always welcome.

Wow, he told you that he has half of our material ? thank you for your
testimony.

Anybody has pictures of that exposed collection ?

If you had more than your house value as retainer you would be very
cooperative beleive us,
we even had to give some Museum labels  .

Past debt obligations ? please show any paperwork.

If "he is caught there" and has nothing to see why he doesn't answer us 
nor

write us that he's innocent ?

and as for the delay, 12 days for the crate to come back to France, the
investigations and been able to have
enough strong written evidences and witnesses takes time you know.

This is one of the biggest robbery in the meteorites history, we are the
victims and you try to tell us that we
shouldn't be on the list ?

Don't worry, that should be resolved strongly.

Bruno & Carine


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To: "Don Merchant" ;

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Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite
Collectionstollen 


> List,
> This is very confusing. The Tucson show ended nearly a month ago on 
> Feb.

> 18th. Why the long wait to make claims
> Anyone at the show already saw much of this material being sold by Sean
> and he and Bruno were very friendly with each other at the time. I saw
> them meeting and discussing identification and pricing of this 
> material.
> Bruno had half or this material for sale and Sean had the other half 
> for
> sale.  In other words it was explained to me that they had made a deal 
> in

> exchange for past debt obligations Bruno had with Sean's partner. Sean
> explained this to anyone interested . I could give you a list of people
> Sean told this to.  He had made a legitimate deal with Bruno.
> This seems like somebody is doing dirty laundry in public and has no
> business on this list. At least not until resolved. There is always two
> sides to every story. Sean may be caught in the middle here but, I know
> him to be an honest man.
> Carl
> meteoritemax
>
> --
> Cheers
>
>  Don Merchant  wrote:
>> Holy Smokes!!! Looking over the list of stolen meteorites, many of 
>> those

>> individual pieces are worth 5X more then my collection of 12 years!!!
>> There
>> has to be several hundred thousand dollars or more lost/stolen on 
>> this!

>> How
>> in the name of Mary did anyone get away with all that inventory!? I am
>> speechless, thankful I only have to type. Where was the security, 
>> laser

>> alarms and Uzzi! I am very sorry to see and hear this. This is
>> incredible.
>> Hopefully this will help create better measures on security because 
>> this

>> boggles my mind

Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite Collection stollen !!!!

2013-03-11 Thread Jim Strope
This is terrible news. 

Jim Strope
421 4th Street
Glen Dale, WV. 26038

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:35 PM, "The Earth's Memory"  wrote:

> Dear list Members,
> 
> it is with consternation that we annouce you that we have been
> victims of extortion at the beginning of the Tucson show
> and finaly totaly robbed at the end of the Tucson show.
> 
> Fortunatly the criminals have been iddentified and one have admited
> that he has the material. For security and procedure raison we will not
> disclose their names at that time nor the circumstances, we can just tell
> you that two are Americans and one is Morrocan.
> 
> We and the Police have enough evidences and witnesses, that will lead the 
> criminal team to be
> punished by the full power of the Law.
> 
> We offered them to give back the material and we would not press charges, but 
> it seems that they are not cooperating.
> The French Police will involve FBI and INTERPOL in the next days as they 
> don't return our inventory intact and at no cost NOW.
> 
> Here is a rapid list of what have been stolen and extorqued:
> http://www.meteorite.fr/en/stolen.htm
> 
> this list is still partial as we are working on it, there are many fossils 
> too.
> 
> Many of you know that these specimens are our and saw them in our room or on 
> our web site for years,
> please have a close look on that list, some specimens might be already for 
> sell somewhere.
> 
> We ask any Dealer, Collector or Curator to be very carefull.
> 
> If you have been proposed any suspicious specimens, please report it to us or 
> Eric Twelker off list.
> 
> Any help would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Best from France,
> 
> Bruno & Carine
> La Memoire de la Terre
> The Earth's Memory
> France
> www.meteorite.fr
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Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite Collection stollen !!!!

2013-03-11 Thread Anne Black

Bruno,

I am very sorry to hear this, and I hope this gets resolved quickly.
However the names of the guily parties should be made public regardless 
of the outcome. Just so they don't try that again on another dealer.


Also, it might be useful to post this one the French Forum. Do you have 
the address?



Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: The Earth's Memory 
To: meteorite-list 
Cc: imca 
Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 5:39 pm
Subject: Urgent Attention:  Major Meteorite Collection stollen 


Dear list Members,

it is with consternation that we annouce you that we have been
victims of extortion at the beginning of the Tucson show
and finaly totaly robbed at the end of the Tucson show.

Fortunatly the criminals have been iddentified and one have admited
that he has the material. For security and procedure raison we will not
disclose their names at that time nor the circumstances, we can just 
tell

you that two are Americans and one is Morrocan.

We and the Police have enough evidences and witnesses, that will lead 
the

criminal team to be
punished by the full power of the Law.

We offered them to give back the material and we would not press 
charges,

but it seems that they are not cooperating.
The French Police will involve FBI and INTERPOL in the next days as 
they

don't return our inventory intact and at no cost NOW.

Here is a rapid list of what have been stolen and extorqued:
http://www.meteorite.fr/en/stolen.htm

this list is still partial as we are working on it, there are many 
fossils

too.

Many of you know that these specimens are our and saw them in our room 
or on

our web site for years,
please have a close look on that list, some specimens might be already 
for

sell somewhere.

We ask any Dealer, Collector or Curator to be very carefull.

If you have been proposed any suspicious specimens, please report it to 
us

or Eric Twelker off list.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Best from France,

Bruno & Carine
La Memoire de la Terre
The Earth's Memory
France
www.meteorite.fr


 
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