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[meteorite-list] AD- Maralinga
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[meteorite-list] Who invented the phrase 'the poor man's space probe'?
Dear list members, Does anyone know who was the first who called a meteorite 'the poor man's space probe? Best regards Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Who invented the phrase 'the poor man's space probe'?
... nothing but a 'poor man's space probe' launched unceremoniously somewhere in the asteroidal belt sometime during the last two billion years [sic.] ... 1960 - Dr. Edward Anders Univ. of Chicago ... unless Nininger said something similar earlier! Best wishes Doug -Original Message- From: karmaka karm...@email.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 4:37 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Who invented the phrase 'the poor man's space probe'? Dear list members, Does anyone know who was the first who called a meteorite 'the poor man's space probe? Best regards Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Update -- New Event Time NASA To Unveil Vesta Images At News Conference
July 28, 2011 Trent J. Perrotto Headquarters, Washington 202-358-0321 trent.j.perro...@nasa.gov Priscilla Vega Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-354-1357 priscilla.r.v...@jpl.nasa.gov MEDIA ADVISORY: M11-160 UPDATE -- NEW EVENT TIME NASA TO UNVEIL VESTA IMAGES AT NEWS CONFERENCE WASHINGTON -- NASA will host a news conference on Monday, Aug. 1, at noon EDT, to discuss the Dawn spacecraft's successful orbit insertion around Vesta on July 15 and unveil the first full-frame images from Dawn's framing camera. The news conference will be held in the Von Karman auditorium at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), 4800 Oak Grove Dr., Pasadena, Calif. Journalists also may ask questions from participating NASA locations or join by phone. To obtain dial-in information, journalists must contact JPL's Media Relations Office at 818-354-5011 by 8 a.m. PDT on Aug. 1. NASA Television and the agency's website will broadcast the event. It also will be carried live on Ustream, with a live chat box available, at: http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl2 The news conference panelists are: -- Colleen Hartman, assistant associate administrator, Science Mission Directorate, NASA Headquarters, Washington -- Charles Elachi, director, JPL -- Marc Rayman, chief engineer and mission manager, JPL -- Christopher Russell, Dawn principal investigator, University of California, Los Angeles -- Holger Sierks, framing camera team member, Max Planck Society, Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany -- Enrico Flamini, chief scientist, Italian Space Agency (ASI), Rome, Italy Although Dawn is collecting some science data now, the mission's intensive collection of information will begin in early August. Observations of the giant asteroid Vesta will provide unprecedented data to help scientists understand the earliest chapter of our solar system. Dawn is the first spacecraft to orbit an asteroid in the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. After spending one year orbiting Vesta, Dawn will travel to a second destination, the dwarf planet Ceres, and arrive there in February 2015. For more information about Dawn, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/dawn For NASA TV streaming video, downlink and schedule information, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/ntv -end- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Edward Anders on going to the Moon: meteorites, asteroids politics bonus (was ... 'the poor man's space probe')
Hi List -- While the chemists are having a moment in the Sun- More on Edward Anders, a colorful personality with incredible foresight, who swam with the greats at Chicago during their unprecedeted heyday (His colleague Harold Urey 'invented' the term cosmochemistry and you all know about amino acids and their possible relationship to carbonaceous chondrites). Taken in context in 1972, very impressive, it could be our discussion today (and he better have a good pair of boxing gloves) ;-) Ref: Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist (December, 1972) pp. 32-38. The first thing we saw on in the Apollo 11 samples was that the soil was enriched in about a dozen meteoritic elements relative to the rocks. The amount corresponded to an admixture of about 1.5 to 2.0 per cent meteoritic material. Because the elements ocurred in essentially solar proportions we could tell that this material was very primitive, similar to carbonaceous chondrites. And this is still true four missions later... I have always been rather critical of the manned space program, at first because I considered it an extravaganza and later because it undercut and weakened our unmanned lunar and planetary programs...But now that the money has been spent...Let us face it, manned Lunar exploration is probably a one-time adventure for mankind. After the Apollo program ends, I think it will take many decades or centuries before mankind attempts another manned lunar program. There is a lot of fundamental information hidden in the lunar rocks, and as with the meteorites, it will take a sustained effort over centuries to extract all this information. So we are really gathering samples for future generations and the cost of the lunar missions has to be judged from this point of view. Therefore it is an opportunity to carry out these missions while we still have trained astronauts, technicians, and engineers, why not? The ost is something like 50 cents for every man, woman and child in the country... I opposed asteroid missions because asteroids are probably the only celestial bodies [sic.] from which samples are delivered free of charge to our door step. It would be quite embarrassing if an expensive mission were launched to an asteroid and brought back samples a few years later esentially identical to meteorites that have been sitting on museum shelves for many years. We would have spent all this money to get material that is already on hand. I would concede one point, namely, that we probably get meteorites only from a small fraction of the asteroid population, maybe 10 percent, maybe less. More than 90 per cent of the asteroids do not communicarte with us. Among those are some oddballs which are quite different from the rest. If future work shows that some of these asteroids are keys to the mysteries of the solar system, then one can make a case for a mission to such an asteroid. Kindest wishes Doug PS Next time we go - and we will - it will be with less brawn but at least as much brains! Got to love the last quote in light of the DAWN mission at Vesta today. -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: karm...@email.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 5:39 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Who invented the phrase 'the poor man's space probe'? ... nothing but a 'poor man's space probe' launched unceremoniously somewhere in the asteroidal belt sometime during the last two billion years [sic.] ... 1960 - Dr. Edward Anders Univ. of Chicago ... unless Nininger said something similar earlier! Best wishes Doug -Original Message- From: karmaka karm...@email.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 4:37 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Who invented the phrase 'the poor man's space probe'? Dear list members, Does anyone know who was the first who called a meteorite 'the poor man's space probe? Best regards Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Edward Anders on going to the Moon: meteorites, asteroids politics bonus (was ... 'the poor man's space probe')
Thank you for the information, Doug. I wrote an email to Edward Anders asking him about the phrase. I hope he will reply. Best wishes Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Gesendet: 29.07.2011 00:30:45 An: karm...@email.de, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Edward Anders on going to the Moon: meteorites, asteroids politics bonus (was ... 'the poor man's space probe') Hi List -- While the chemists are having a moment in the Sun- More on Edward Anders, a colorful personality with incredible foresight, who swam with the greats at Chicago during their unprecedeted heyday (His colleague Harold Urey 'invented' the term cosmochemistry and you all know about amino acids and their possible relationship to carbonaceous chondrites). Taken in context in 1972, very impressive, it could be our discussion today (and he better have a good pair of boxing gloves) ;-) Ref: Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist (December, 1972) pp. 32-38. The first thing we saw on in the Apollo 11 samples was that the soil was enriched in about a dozen meteoritic elements relative to the rocks. The amount corresponded to an admixture of about 1.5 to 2.0 per cent meteoritic material. Because the elements ocurred in essentially solar proportions we could tell that this material was very primitive, similar to carbonaceous chondrites. And this is still true four missions later... I have always been rather critical of the manned space program, at first because I considered it an extravaganza and later because it undercut and weakened our unmanned lunar and planetary programs...But now that the money has been spent...Let us face it, manned Lunar exploration is probably a one-time adventure for mankind. After the Apollo program ends, I think it will take many decades or centuries before mankind attempts another manned lunar program. There is a lot of fundamental information hidden in the lunar rocks, and as with the meteorites, it will take a sustained effort over centuries to extract all this information. So we are really gathering samples for future generations and the cost of the lunar missions has to be judged from this point of view. Therefore it is an opportunity to carry out these missions while we still have trained astronauts, technicians, and engineers, why not? The ost is something like 50 cents for every man, woman and child in the country... I opposed asteroid missions because asteroids are probably the only celestial bodies [sic.] from which samples are delivered free of charge to our door step. It would be quite embarrassing if an expensive mission were launched to an asteroid and brought back samples a few years later esentially identical to meteorites that have been sitting on museum shelves for many years. We would have spent all this money to get material that is already on hand. I would concede one point, namely, that we probably get meteorites only from a small fraction of the asteroid population, maybe 10 percent, maybe less. More than 90 per cent of the asteroids do not communicarte with us. Among those are some oddballs which are quite different from the rest. If future work shows that some of these asteroids are keys to the mysteries of the solar system, then one can make a case for a mission to such an asteroid. Kindest wishes Doug PS Next time we go - and we will - it will be with less brawn but at least as much brains! Got to love the last quote in light of the DAWN mission at Vesta today. -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: karm...@email.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 5:39 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Who invented the phrase 'the poor man's space probe'? ... nothing but a 'poor man's space probe' launched unceremoniously somewhere in the asteroidal belt sometime during the last two billion years [sic.] ... 1960 - Dr. Edward Anders Univ. of Chicago ... unless Nininger said something similar earlier! Best wishes Doug -Original Message- From: karmaka karm...@email.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 4:37 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Who invented the phrase 'the poor man's space probe'? Dear list members, Does anyone know who was the first who called a meteorite 'the poor man's space probe? Best regards Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] Edward Anders on going to the Moon: meteorites, asteroids politics bonus (was ... 'the poor man's space probe')
Good luck Martin, I hope he is still active. If you want to get the History of the World (Meteorites), from his point of view as the foundations of the modern classification of meteorites was in progress ... and to see what was on his mind when he invented the phrase ... you could check out Ursula Marvin's MAPS 2001 article, an oral history she did wih him (interview), too: (link) http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2001M%26PSA..36..255M ref: Meteoritics Planetary Science, 36, Supplement, p. A255-A267 Kindest wishes Doug PS Joke from the new publication, inspired by that special metal found in special places, ref: Zentralblatt Meteoritical Nickel Vol. V, No. V. page 5: What's a square a nickel in Germany? Ans: Ni Ni in Ger ;-) Nein, Nein, just joking -Original Message- From: karmaka karm...@email.de To: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 6:47 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Edward Anders on going to the Moon: meteorites, asteroids politics bonus (was ... 'the poor man's space probe') Thank you for the information, Doug. I wrote an email to Edward Anders asking him about the phrase. I hope he will reply. Best wishes Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Gesendet: 29.07.2011 00:30:45 An: karm...@email.de, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Edward Anders on going to the Moon: meteorites, asteroids politics bonus (was ... 'the poor man's space probe') Hi List -- While the chemists are having a moment in the Sun- More on Edward Anders, a colorful personality with incredible foresight, who swam with the greats at Chicago during their unprecedeted heyday (His colleague Harold Urey 'invented' the term cosmochemistry and you all know about amino acids and their possible relationship to carbonaceous chondrites). Taken in context in 1972, very impressive, it could be our discussion today (and he better have a good pair of boxing gloves) ;-) Ref: Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist (December, 1972) pp. 32-38. The first thing we saw on in the Apollo 11 samples was that the soil was enriched in about a dozen meteoritic elements relative to the rocks. The amount corresponded to an admixture of about 1.5 to 2.0 per cent meteoritic material. Because the elements ocurred in essentially solar proportions we could tell that this material was very primitive, similar to carbonaceous chondrites. And this is still true four missions later... I have always been rather critical of the manned space program, at first because I considered it an extravaganza and later because it undercut and weakened our unmanned lunar and planetary programs...But now that the money has been spent...Let us face it, manned Lunar exploration is probably a one-time adventure for mankind. After the Apollo program ends, I think it will take many decades or centuries before mankind attempts another manned lunar program. There is a lot of fundamental information hidden in the lunar rocks, and as with the meteorites, it will take a sustained effort over centuries to extract all this information. So we are really gathering samples for future generations and the cost of the lunar missions has to be judged from this point of view. Therefore it is an opportunity to carry out these missions while we still have trained astronauts, technicians, and engineers, why not? The ost is something like 50 cents for every man, woman and child in the country... I opposed asteroid missions because asteroids are probably the only celestial bodies [sic.] from which samples are delivered free of charge to our door step. It would be quite embarrassing if an expensive mission were launched to an asteroid and brought back samples a few years later esentially identical to meteorites that have been sitting on museum shelves for many years. We would have spent all this money to get material that is already on hand. I would concede one point, namely, that we probably get meteorites only from a small fraction of the asteroid population, maybe 10 percent, maybe less. More than 90 per cent of the asteroids do not communicarte with us. Among those are some oddballs which are quite different from the rest. If future work shows that some of these asteroids are keys to the mysteries of the solar system, then one can make a case for a mission to such an asteroid. Kindest wishes Doug PS Next time we go - and we will - it will be with less brawn but at least as much brains! Got to love the last quote in light of the DAWN mission at Vesta today. -Original Message- From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: karm...@email.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 5:39 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Who invented the phrase 'the poor man's space probe'? ... nothing but a 'poor man's space probe' launched unceremoniously somewhere in the asteroidal belt sometime during the last two billion years [sic.] ...
[meteorite-list] Bad Buyer on Ebay
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[meteorite-list] AD : Some more meteorites for sale
See all info here: http://s1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa332/MMMeteorites/Meteorite%20Sale%20Summer%202011/NWA%20123%20grams/ I would suggest bookmarking the link to keep track of it if interested... again, no trades. If you consider purchasing, please send payment via PayPal to my connected email (message me off list for it please). --- -Melanie MetMel - avid meteorite collector/enthusiast from Canada! IMCA#: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD (Link correction) : Some more meteorites for sale
http://s1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa332/MMMeteorites/Meteorite%20Sale%20Summer%202011/ --- -Melanie MetMel - avid meteorite collector/enthusiast from Canada! IMCA#: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Melanie Matthews miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 7:20:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD : Some more meteorites for sale See all info here: http://s1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa332/MMMeteorites/Meteorite%20Sale%20Summer%202011/NWA%20123%20grams/ I would suggest bookmarking the link to keep track of it if interested... again, no trades. If you consider purchasing, please send payment via PayPal to my connected email (message me off list for it please). --- -Melanie MetMel - avid meteorite collector/enthusiast from Canada! IMCA#: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA's Dawn's Spacecraft Views Dark Side of Vesta
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-232 NASA's Dawn's Spacecraft Views Dark Side of Vesta Jet Propulsion Laboratory July 28, 2011 [Image} Dawn took this image over Vesta's northern hemisphere after the spacecraft completed its first passage over the dark side of the giant asteroid. It is northern hemisphere winter on Vesta now, so its north pole is in deep shadow. The Dawn science team is working to determine the significance of the distinct features in this image, which include large grooves or ridges extending for great distances around Vesta. This image was taken by Dawn's framing camera on July 23, from a distance of 3,200 miles (5,200 kilometers). The Dawn mission to Vesta and Ceres is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, for NASA. The University of California, Los Angeles, is responsible for overall Dawn mission science. The Dawn framing cameras have been developed and built under the leadership of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research, Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany, with significant contributions by DLR German Aerospace Center, Institute of Planetary Research, Berlin, and in coordination with the Institute of Computer and Communication Network Engineering, Braunschweig. The Framing Camera project is funded by the Max Planck Society, DLR, and NASA/JPL. Priscilla Vega (818) 354-1357 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. priscilla.r.v...@jpl.nasa.gov 2011-232 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
