Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Blitz
Ben and Erik, Hola from New Mexico! You two are the kings of Holbrook! You always manage to tear it up when you are hunting Holbrook. Save some for Zaya the Z-man and I. Congrats on super finds! Good on ya! Dean and Z-man To: erikfw...@msn.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:28:59 -0400 From: wahlpe...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Blitz Hi Erik,Ben Way to go! Keep up the good work. Sonny -Original Message- From: Erik Fisler To: meteorite-list Sent: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 4:15 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Blitz Recently pops and I drove up to Holbrook for a quick one day hunt. Considering that we didn't even spend 8 hours looking we made out like bandits. I have insitu pictures, cleaned up pictures, and total pictures which is quite a few so Ill here are our two totals first for people who don't have time to sift through a lot of pictures: Erik's Total (14.7g's)- http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=IMG_4197.jpg Dad's Total (18g's)- http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=IMG_4198.jpg Here is my dad with his 8.7 gram stone: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=IMG_4015copy.jpg Here are the isitu pictures: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3887copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3894copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3907copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3920copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3928copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3932copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3955copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3965copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3970copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3973copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3979copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3982copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3984copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3985copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3989copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3991copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3993copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3999copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4001copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4004copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4005copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4006copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4008copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4020copy.jpg Here are the cleaned up shots. There are two shots, a front and back, for each stone. The cube shows T for Top and B for bottom. Dad's: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4128.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4130copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4131.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4132.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4133.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4135.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4136.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4138.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4139.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4140.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4141.jpg Erik's: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4152.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4154.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4155.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4158.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4159.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4160.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4161.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4162.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4163.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4164.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4165.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4166.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4168.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4169.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4170.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4171.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4172.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4174.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4176.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4177.jpg
Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Blitz
Erik and Ben, Hola Que lindo son los estrellitas! You two are the kings of HOlbrook! Very nice finds! Congrats to you both and good on ya! Save a few for Zaya the Z-man and I! Say hello to the familia. Dean From: erikfw...@msn.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:15:37 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Blitz Recently pops and I drove up to Holbrook for a quick one day hunt. Considering that we didn't even spend 8 hours looking we made out like bandits. I have insitu pictures, cleaned up pictures, and total pictures which is quite a few so Ill here are our two totals first for people who don't have time to sift through a lot of pictures: Erik's Total (14.7g's)- http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=view¤t=IMG_4197.jpg Dad's Total (18g's)- http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=view¤t=IMG_4198.jpg Here is my dad with his 8.7 gram stone: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=view¤t=IMG_4015copy.jpg Here are the isitu pictures: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3887copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3894copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3907copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3920copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3928copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3932copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3955copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3965copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3970copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3973copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3979copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3982copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3984copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3985copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3989copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3991copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3993copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_3999copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4001copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4004copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4005copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4006copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4008copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4020copy.jpg Here are the cleaned up shots. There are two shots, a front and back, for each stone. The cube shows T for Top and B for bottom. Dad's: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4128.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4130copy.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4131.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4132.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4133.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4135.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4136.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4138.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4139.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4140.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4141.jpg Erik's: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4152.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4154.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4155.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4158.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4159.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4160.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4161.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4162.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4163.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4164.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4165.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4166.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4168.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4169.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4170.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4171.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4172.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4174.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4176.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4177.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4178.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4179.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4180.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/IMG_4181.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Group Hunt
Hello all, Ruben,it was a sweet hunt for sure! Ben and Erik are eagle eyed to say the least! They tore it up. Zaya and I found four, three were complete stones. They are smallbut we are very happy with them. They are our first Holbrook's! We had a blast, not to mention the great memories and new friendships formed. Our photos can be seen on the Nugget Shooter Forum under the Forum Topic Holbrook Victory. Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:26:08 -0700 From: meteoritem...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; erikfw...@msn.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Group Hunt Thats Cool! Holbrook is always fun, Ben and Erik must have eagle eyes... But where are Dean's finds? Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona Website: http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfrightp=v --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Erik Fisler wrote: From: Erik Fisler Subject: [meteorite-list] Holbrook Group Hunt To: meteorite-list Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 7:10 PM This weekend a group of hunters including Nate, Dean, Zaya, Bedrock Bob, my father, and I hunted Holbrook. Even our friend Travis stopped by on Sunday. Nate rode with us, so I had a chance to weigh his finds along with ours. Nate's: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=N1.jpg 3.4g 2.2g 2.1g 1.3g 0.9g 0.7g 0.6g 0.5g 0.5g 0.4g 0.4g 0.4g Total = 13.4g Ben's: http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=B1.jpg 5.3g 2.4g 2.1g 1.1g 1.1g 0.6g Total = 12.6g Erik's http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=E1.jpg 9.4g (Fragmented idividual) 5.2g 4.7g 2.6g 1.5g 1.1g 0.9g 0.7g 0.6g 0.6g 0.4g Total = 28.6g __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Windows Live™: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Habitual Line Crossing....
Erik, Well said!!! Although I do not actively post, I do follow the list. From: erikfw...@msn.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:45:35 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Habitual Line Crossing It's been a year or two since I have followed the list. Only a few months ago have I returned to following the list again. It's a great source of information to share with my science teacher at my high school, past and present. I also enjoy reading about the latest falls, price updating, and networking. However, it is not enjoyable to read the conquests, arguments, fights, personal attacks, skirmishes. Debating a topic is one of the best parts of being involved in the scientific community. Forgetting some important things can lead to crossing the line from making your point to making yourself look like a jerk! Here are some to keep in mind when posting: Integrity Honor Valor Excellency We all slip. Some more than others. Regardless, we all shouldn't forget the most important things: Forgiveness understanding. For those of us who need more refining (like me) a great guide of manners is the list of manners George Washington wrote when he was only 16: http://www.history.org/Almanack/life/manners/rules2.cfm [Erik] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Ocate, NM Iron Classification Specimens - AD
Hello Greg, Congrats On your awesome N.M. iron meteorite! Shes a beaut! I actually know the guy who found your N.M. Iron meteorite. The stories he has told me behind this find are very interesting to say the least. In fact we spoke again of this fall the last time we hunted together. There have been quite a few falls here in N.M. worthy of spending some serious adventure time on for sure!! Again congrats to you! Dean From: gmh...@htn.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:18:06 -0400 Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW Ocate, NM Iron Classification Specimens - AD Dear List Members, I would like to announce a newly-approved iron meteorite found in New Mexico in 1986 and has just been approved. It is a IAB-MG (Main Group), coarse ochtahedrite and is named Ocate after the nearest town to where it was found. It will be in the online database soon and will be published in MB96 (Sept, issue MaPS). It wasn't until 2008 that they finder approached me with the single 6.4kg stone that the classification process began. I went to the find site last fall with the person who found it to take GPS coordinates, photograph the area and to hunt for more if there were any to be found. We didn't have much time to hunt at that time so we did not find any others. Here are a couple of links to give you an idea of how nice Ocate is (see all available specimens below classification below). This was cut and prepared by one of the best meteorite craftsman in the business! Polished and etched face of a 314g complete slice: http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc2.jpg Ocate, New Mexico sign: http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/OcateSign.jpg The find site of the 6.4kg Ocate iron: http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/findsite.jpg Getting to the find site is treacherous and a 4-wheel drive vehicle with high clearance is required! It took us about three hours after leaving the paved road to get to the site up the mountain on a road that was more like a crater-ridden trail with large boulders in most places and swampy mud in others. To successfully hunt the site would require camping for a week, there is no way to drive up and down the mountain each day and get enough hunting hours in to make it worthwhile. There are also lots of elk hunters during hunting season so anyone who wants to give it a go, be careful! Submitted and approved classification for Ocate: Ocate 36° 17.72' N, 105° 2.90' W Mora County, New Mexico Find: 1986 Iron (IAB-MG), coarse octahedrite History: This single 6.4kg mass was found by a local New Mexico hunter in 1986. Knowing it was different from the surrounding rocks and had an odd appearance (the face of a bear), the hunter took it home and set it aside with an odd assortment of 'collectibles' while hunting and mountaineering over decades in the New Mexico area. The owner contacted G. Hupe in May 2008 for verification of the find, which was confirmed by study of the type sample at the University of Alberta. Physical characteristics: A single stone weighing 6402 grams with virtually no apparent fusion crust, yet also lacking progressed terrestrial alteration, which contributes towards its dark brown metallic appearance with well defined regmaglypts. Petrography: (C. Herd, N. Bruemmer, UAb) A 5 x 7 cm polished and etched slab reveals Widmanstätten pattern with an average bandwidth of 1.4 ± 0.2 mm, few areas of plessite, and numerous inclusions. A 1 cm ellipsoidal graphite nodule and several smaller inclusions of graphite, troilite and schreibersite are associated with polygonal kamacite on one portion of the slab. Smaller, mm-scale elongate inclusions of troilite are oriented parallel to kamacite lamellae where the Widmanstätten is better developed. Terrestrial oxides decorate fractures within a few mm of the exterior surface. Geochemistry: Bulk Composition: INAA data (J. Duke, UAb): Ni = 6.99 ± 0.05 wt%, Co = 0.466 ± 0.004 wt%, Ga = 71.9 ± 0.3 μg/g, Ge = 271 ± 6 μg/g, Ir = 2.25 ± 0.04 μg/g, Au = 1.60 ± 0.03 μg/g, As = 15.2 ± 0.3 μg/g, Cu = 119 ± 11 μg/g, W = 0.87 ± 0.08 μg/g, Re = 0.22 ± 0.02 μg/g (uncertainties 1s, 68% confidence level). Classification: Iron meteorite, IAB main group, coarse octahedrite, minimal shock, minimal weathering. Type specimens: 97.58 g slab and a 3.2 g interior piece, UAb, main mass, G. Hupe. I have only 12 specimens out of 15 that are available, here is the list which also shows the thickness of each piece: Ocate, New Mexico IAB-MG iron meteorite 910g end cut http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910a.jpg http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910b.jpg 322.6g cs 4mm thick http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc1.jpg 314g cs 4mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc2.jpg 211.6g cs 3.5mm http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc3.jpg 208.2g cs
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - June 13, 2009
Wow! that is an awesome meteorite! I am sure glad I live fairly close to Portales. Can't wait till fall comes around. From: spacerocks...@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:15:57 -0400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - June 13, 2009 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/June_13_2009.html __ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nate's Franconia L Chondrite
Erik, give Nate my congrats on a nice 100+ grammer. A very nice piece indeed!! I'm sure yours will be just as nice. Good hunting!! Congrats to both of you!! Dean From: erikfw...@msn.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:07:21 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Nate's Franconia L Chondrite I hunted this Thursday through Sunday at Franconia. I met up with Nate who had been there since Monday and he had already had plenty of luck on both the North and South sides of the highway. He showed me a pretty big L chondrite he found while looking for big H's on the Southside. The exact weight of Nate's find is pending but it is probably over 100 grams. Who really knows which strewn field it pairs to without classifying it, but it would be a shame to cut it. Here are some pics of it for any non believers: http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/a.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/a1.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/a2.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/a3.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/a4.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/a5.jpg http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/a6.jpg I'll post more pictures of the hunt in the following days. [Erik] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
