Re: [uf-discuss] Pingerati

2006-08-31 Thread Paul Kinlan

Hi,

I know I keep going on about pingerati.  But has anyone noticed that
it hasn't updated the list of recently updated pings in a couple of
days.  I know I have updated my blog, so at least they should have
come through.

This might also indicate why I have not recorded any pings.

Paul

On 31/08/06, Benjamin West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As far as services/crawling go, I would suggest AWSP (Alexa Web Search
Platform).  Alexa opens their crawl data for other to sift through so
you don't have to do the crawling.  If you are concerned about your
resources' preparedness, consider using Amazon's S3 (simple storage
service) for storage.


(Disclaimer: I work for Alexa, but AWSP really is a useful service for
mining data out of the web.)


-Ben

On 8/29/06, Paul Kinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of the reasons why I would like to get hCard pings is because I
 would like to see and monitor the take up of hCards.

 I would also like to improve www.topicala.com, which at the moment
 isn't a very good meta-search engine. :)

 Paul

 On 29/08/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Aug 29, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
 
   Scott, Paul, feel free to cc both me and Kevin Marks on Pingerati
   requests
   so we can make sure they don't fall through the cracks.  Sometimes
   we get
   overwhelmed a bit with all the stuff going on.
 
  Yeah, that's what I figured.  I don't suppose you could provide a
  rough estimate of how many of each microformat you're being pinged
  with daily?  Part of the reason i didn't follow up sooner is that I
  started to second-guess whether what I have done is really ready for
  all those pings.  But after I do some more work, I'll definitely send
  another request and Cc: both you and Kevin.  Thanks.
 
   hAtom results make a lot of sense Scott, perhaps you could document
   what
   you've come up with specifically (for hAtom search results) on an
   hatom-examples page on the wiki so others could do the same?
 
  Will do.
 
  Peace,
  Scott
 
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Re: [uf-discuss] vcard fn for name in A. B. Smith format

2006-08-31 Thread Ciaran McNulty

On 8/31/06, Jeremy Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was working an intranet site for a posh estate agent recently, and
they had all sorts of ludicrous edge cases in their database of upper-
class landed gentry.


I work for a site that deals in the Construction industry, and for
whatever reason, surveyors seem to get really upset if they can't have
a string of qualifications after their name, so insist on trying to
cram them into the 'last-name'* field.

-Ciaran

* I know, very western-biased
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Re: [uf-discuss] vcard fn for name in A. B. Smith format

2006-08-31 Thread Jeremy Keith

Dave wrote:
I'm still very new to this however I'm not sure that using an  
abbreviation:


abbr class=fn title=Charles WindsorHis Royal Highness, The
Prince of Wales/abbr

would be the most appropriate, especially considering that the  
abbrevited

text is longer than it's title.


I agree. I wasn't suggesting it would be appropriate.

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RE: [uf-discuss] vcard fn for name in A. B. Smith format

2006-08-31 Thread David Randall
Oh I realise that : )

I appreciate it's hypothetical but you could argue that in this kind of
situation Charles Windsor could be the family name while His Royal
Highness etc could be marked as the given name. 

Dave 



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Dave wrote:
 I'm still very new to this however I'm not sure that using an
 abbreviation:

 abbr class=fn title=Charles WindsorHis Royal Highness, The 
 Prince of Wales/abbr

 would be the most appropriate, especially considering that the 
 abbrevited text is longer than it's title.

I agree. I wasn't suggesting it would be appropriate.

--
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Re: [uf-discuss] vcard fn for name in A. B. Smith format

2006-08-31 Thread Gazza

David Randall mumbled the following on 31/08/2006 11:01:

I suppose the abbreviation pattern could theoretically be butchered  
for this purpose:


abbr class=fn title=Charles WindsorHis Royal Highness, The  
Prince of Wales/abbr


Royalty is a tricky one - how would you add other titles like Duke of 
Cornwall, Lieutenant General etc to the above?


How about for his son?

Prince Harry
2nd Lieutenant Wales
Henry Charles Albert David Mountbatten-Windsor

Even is family-name isn't consistent!

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Re: [uf-discuss] hCard vs. vcf

2006-08-31 Thread Dimitri Glazkov

Why did you end up not using standard address output?

I think that's probably at the core of the issue. If you have a
separate page with an hCard that's only used to convert to .vcf, the
why not just use vcf is a valid question.

:DG
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[uf-discuss] Microformat Scripts

2006-08-31 Thread Jeremy Flint

Are there any scripts out there that can do the hCard/hCal conversion
the same way the technorati URL does?

The obvious question from clients and others is why are we pointing
to this technorati site and what if they change their URL or take
their site down.

--jeremy flint
www.jeremyflint.com
www.kineticcom.com
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Re: [uf-discuss] Microformat Scripts

2006-08-31 Thread Chris Messina

Typical FUD. But for mission critical, enh, whatev.

Take a look at hKit for PHP5:

http://allinthehead.com/hkit
http://tools.microformatic.com/help/xhtml/hkit/

Then check out Assaf's Ruby helper:

http://blog.labnotes.org/2006/08/25/microformats-helper-for-ruby-on-rails/

More at implementations:

http://microformats.org/wiki/implementations

Chris

On 8/31/06, Jeremy Flint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are there any scripts out there that can do the hCard/hCal conversion
the same way the technorati URL does?

The obvious question from clients and others is why are we pointing
to this technorati site and what if they change their URL or take
their site down.

--jeremy flint
www.jeremyflint.com
www.kineticcom.com
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Re: [uf-discuss] Pingerati

2006-08-31 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 8/31/06 12:34 AM, Paul Kinlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I know I keep going on about pingerati.

No problem at all Paul.


 But has anyone noticed that
 it hasn't updated the list of recently updated pings in a couple of
 days.

Noticed.  That operates on a different system from the one that sends out
the pings BTW so sometimes it lags, or just because it doesn't show an
update doesn't mean the pings didn't get through.


 I know I have updated my blog, so at least they should have
 come through.

Pingerati.net had some DNS problems the last day or so but those should now
be fixed and pings should be going through. We're working on fixing the
Recently updated pages section.


 This might also indicate why I have not recorded any pings.

If you are still not seeing pings, definitely follow up with Kevin Marks and
myself.

Thanks,

Tantek

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Re: [uf-discuss] vcard fn for name in A. B. Smith format

2006-08-31 Thread Bruce D'Arcus

On 8/31/06, Jeremy Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


For example, the name might be Charles Windsor, but the form of
address is His Royal Highness, The Prince of Wales.


What about honorific-prefix?

Bruce
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