Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dmitry Baranovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I wrote f parser Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet compliant. -- Andy Mabbett ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats p arser
Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet compliant. i'd imagine it was a micro symbol :) ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser
On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet compliant. Is this list available on Usenet? -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus microformats parser
The Greek letter mu, if I'm not mistaken :) Jim Original Message: - From: Thom Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:25:38 +0100 To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus microformats parser Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet compliant. i'd imagine it was a micro symbol :) ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss mail2web.com Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser
On 20/09/2007, Ciaran McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet compliant. Is this list available on Usenet? well, what you do is, you blast all possible 8 bit sequences through usenet, and the ones that come out alive... that's your list. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser
On 9/20/07, Philip Tellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, what you do is, you blast all possible 8 bit sequences through usenet, and the ones that come out alive... that's your list. Is this mailing list available on Usenet? -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ciaran McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet compliant. Is this list available on Usenet? Ack, of course not - I have it configured as a pseudo-newsgroup in my combined news mail client. Sorry. Nonetheless, the character is not rendering properly, here, at least - though it does render properly at: http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-September/010710.html -- Andy Mabbett ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
[uf-discuss] Optimus - microformats parser
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dmitry Baranovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes URL: http://microformatique.com/optimus/ I've found a bug :-( For: http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/birmingham/indoor.htm Optimus is rendering the postal code in: span class=postal-code abbr class=geo title=52.4703;-1.9239 B15 3AF /abbr /span as: postal-code52.4703;-1.9239/postal-code and likewise where that postal code is part of an hCalendar's location. -- Andy Mabbett ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
RE: [uf-discuss] Optimus - microformats parser
Is that a bug? The parsing rules at http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-parsing seem pretty unambiguous: For all properties, when the element for a property is: * abbr title: use the value of the 'title' attribute. If there is no 'title' attribute then use the contents of the element. So am I right in understanding that a parser should always ignore the contents of abbr? In which case, do the parsing rules need revisiting? Jim Original Message: - From: Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:16:26 +0100 To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org Subject: [uf-discuss] Optimus - microformats parser I've found a bug :-( For: http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/birmingham/indoor.htm Optimus is rendering the postal code in: span class=postal-code abbr class=geo title=52.4703;-1.9239 B15 3AF /abbr /span as: postal-code52.4703;-1.9239/postal-code and likewise where that postal code is part of an hCalendar's location. -- Andy Mabbett ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus - microformats parser
On 20/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So am I right in understanding that a parser should always ignore the contents of abbr? In which case, do the parsing rules need revisiting? except that in this case, the postal-code element is not abbr, but span, and it has no title. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
[uf-discuss] Re: Optimus — microformats parser
Is this list available on Usenet? You can use an nntp-capable Usenet newsreader to read this list (and the other microformats mailing lists) via the most excellent Gmane: http://dir.gmane.org/index.php?prefix=gmane.comp.web.microformats N.B. Gmane's groups aren't propagated to other NNTP servers, so no, this group isn't available via Usenet. -- Edward O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus microformats parser
On 9/20/07 4:47 AM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ack, of course not - I have it configured as a pseudo-newsgroup in my combined news mail client. Sorry. Nonetheless, the character is not rendering properly, here, at least - though it does render properly at: http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-September/0107 10.html Consider checking the UTF-8 compliance of your combined news mail client, as Dmitry Baranovskiy's message headers properly stated: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 And then simply included the UTF-8 mu (or micro symbol) character inline in the message. Thanks, Tantek P.S. Well done Dmitry Baranovskiy! I'm still playing with Optimus a bunch more before following up with specific feedback. ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] hCard: title or role
On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In hCard, should a job title like Head of Marketing be classed as title or role, or both? What's the difference? Off the top of my head: role = executive title = Head of Marketing No? :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] hCard: title or role
from vcard: 3.5.1 TITLE Type Definition Type name: TITLE Type purpose: To specify the job title, functional position or function of the object the vCard represents. Type example: TITLE:Director\, Research and Development 3.5.2 ROLE Type Definition Type name: ROLE Type purpose: To specify information concerning the role, occupation, or business category of the object the vCard represents. Type special notes: This type is based on the X.520 Business Category explanatory attribute. This property is included as an organizational type to avoid confusion with the semantics of the TITLE type and incorrect usage of that type when the semantics of this type is intended. Type example: ROLE:Programmer So Head of Marketing is a Title, Marketing is a Role, I'd say. On Sep 20, 2007 12:22 PM, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In hCard, should a job title like Head of Marketing be classed as title or role, or both? What's the difference? Off the top of my head: role = executive title = Head of Marketing No? :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] hCard: title or role
On Sep 20, 2007 12:22 PM, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In hCard, should a job title like Head of Marketing be classed as title or role, or both? What's the difference? Off the top of my head: role = executive title = Head of Marketing No? (resorting, please bottom-post! thanks! :) On 9/20/07 12:55 PM, Kevin Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from vcard: 3.5.1 TITLE Type Definition Type name: TITLE Type purpose: To specify the job title, functional position or function of the object the vCard represents. Type example: TITLE:Director\, Research and Development 3.5.2 ROLE Type Definition Type name: ROLE Type purpose: To specify information concerning the role, occupation, or business category of the object the vCard represents. Type special notes: This type is based on the X.520 Business Category explanatory attribute. This property is included as an organizational type to avoid confusion with the semantics of the TITLE type and incorrect usage of that type when the semantics of this type is intended. Type example: ROLE:Programmer So Head of Marketing is a Title, Marketing is a Role, I'd say. Agreed with one minor change. Marketing is an area. From the example in RFC2426, it appears that the role is a noun that describes the person with respect to that area. E.g. TITLE:Head of Marketing ROLE:Marketer or perhaps TITLE:Head of Marketing ROLE:Manager Tantek ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
