Re: [uf-discuss] Google Rich Snippets - testing tool

2009-08-27 Thread Chris Ruppel
First, another echo for the great work that went into this tool!

I noticed another issue with the results of Kevin's test: the
dtreviewed value isn't getting parsed into a human-readable date in
the sample result.

Here's a sample with a human-friendly date for comparison (it may be
due to the dashes in my dtreviewed value)
http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwhichtwitterapp.com%2Freviews%2Fadobe-air%2Ftweetdeck-desktop

Chris

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Kevin Marks wrote:
> Great tool guys.
>
> I tried it on my original hReviews, - looks like your rating
> extraction is not honouring the abbr title pattern - it shows you
> seeing my unicode stars, not the title='4'
>
>
> http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?url=http%3A%2F%2Fepeus.blogspot.com%2F2005%2F04%2Frevisiting-waugh-and-armstrong.html
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Edward O'Connor wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> We have created an early version of a testing tool to allow webmasters
>>> to check that their markup is being correctly parsed by Google for use
>>> in Rich Snippets.
>>
>> Wow, very nice. Thanks for making this available!
>>
>>> We would love to have you try the tool out and send us suggestions,
>>> points of confusion, bugs, or any other general feedback.
>>
>> Does the tool support hCard's additional-name? I don't see any of the
>> middle names from  in the results. I'm
>> also surprised by some results for .
>>
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Edward O'Connor
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Re: [uf-discuss] Google Rich Snippets - testing tool

2009-08-27 Thread Kevin Marks
Great tool guys.

I tried it on my original hReviews, - looks like your rating
extraction is not honouring the abbr title pattern - it shows you
seeing my unicode stars, not the title='4'


http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?url=http%3A%2F%2Fepeus.blogspot.com%2F2005%2F04%2Frevisiting-waugh-and-armstrong.html

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Edward O'Connor wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> We have created an early version of a testing tool to allow webmasters
>> to check that their markup is being correctly parsed by Google for use
>> in Rich Snippets.
>
> Wow, very nice. Thanks for making this available!
>
>> We would love to have you try the tool out and send us suggestions,
>> points of confusion, bugs, or any other general feedback.
>
> Does the tool support hCard's additional-name? I don't see any of the
> middle names from  in the results. I'm
> also surprised by some results for .
>
>
> Thanks again,
> Edward O'Connor
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Re: [uf-discuss] Google Rich Snippets - testing tool

2009-08-27 Thread Edward O'Connor
Hi,

> We have created an early version of a testing tool to allow webmasters
> to check that their markup is being correctly parsed by Google for use
> in Rich Snippets.

Wow, very nice. Thanks for making this available!

> We would love to have you try the tool out and send us suggestions,
> points of confusion, bugs, or any other general feedback.

Does the tool support hCard's additional-name? I don't see any of the
middle names from  in the results. I'm
also surprised by some results for .


Thanks again,
Edward O'Connor
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Re: [uf-discuss] outstanding hCard and hCalendar issues resolved (except dtend which needs your opinion!)

2009-08-27 Thread David Janes
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Tantek Çelik  wrote:
>
> All outstanding hCard and hCalendar issues have been resolved (except
> for dtend).
>
> If over the past several years you raised an issue on the wiki
> regarding hCard and/or hCalendar, or if you work on an hCard/hCalendar
> implementation, please take a look at:
>
> * http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-issues-resolved
> * http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-issues-resolved
>
> And review resolutions to see if you find anything you disagree with
> or anything left unresolved.  Please make comments inline on issues
> and issue resolutions on the wiki.
>
> One issue in particular I want to draw your attention to:
>
> I have chosen to keep the "dtend" inconsistency issue *open* because I
> have changed my mind about what I think is the best resolution for it
> (based on additional evidence collected this year), and very much want
> authors and developers to review this issue, and add both their own
> research/evidence and opinions towards the goal of making the best
> decision for the community:
>
> http://microformats.org/wiki/dtend-issue
>
>
>
> I am incorporating the resolutions as follows:
>
> * Minor, informative, and clarifying brainstorming and resolutions
> will be applied to the existing hCard and hCalendar pages (often
> informative examples and FAQs)
>
> * Minor, normative changes and brainstorming that likely affect
> implementations will be made to 1.0.1 versions of hCard and hCalendar
> ** e.g. requiring implementation of the value-class-pattern.
>
> * Major changes and additions e.g. in brainstorming will be added to
> version 1.1 *drafts* for hCard and hCalendar
> ** e.g. beginning incorporation of stable draft vCard 4.0 properties
> into hCard 1.1
> ** I'll likely track and collect 1.1 additions first on respective
> *-brainstorming pages before actually writing up v1.1 drafts.
>
>
> Note that since hCard and hCalendar are or contain building blocks
> used by nearly every other compound microformat, it is highly likely
> that many of these resolutions and fixes will make their way into
> iterations of most other microformats (such as hReview, hAtom,
> hResume, etc.) thus if you're an editor of a microformat, you should
> review the resolutions as well.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tantek
>
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And I'll just throw it out there that a hypothetical hAtom 0.2 is
waiting for everyone's opinion [1], quite frankly even if it's voting
"0 I don't have an opinion".

In particular:
- we want to know _what_ should be included in hAtom 0.2
- we want to know _how_ to do those things
- some issues that people raised need expansion

My opinion is that I'd love to at least get the non-contentious stuff
(if such a thing exists in the uf world) out of the way and consider
doing a hAtom 0.2, then immediately start working for 0.3 with the
more tetchy problems.

Regards, etc...
David

[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom-issues

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[uf-discuss] outstanding hCard and hCalendar issues resolved (except dtend which needs your opinion!)

2009-08-27 Thread Tantek Çelik
All outstanding hCard and hCalendar issues have been resolved (except
for dtend).

If over the past several years you raised an issue on the wiki
regarding hCard and/or hCalendar, or if you work on an hCard/hCalendar
implementation, please take a look at:

* http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-issues-resolved
* http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-issues-resolved

And review resolutions to see if you find anything you disagree with
or anything left unresolved.  Please make comments inline on issues
and issue resolutions on the wiki.

One issue in particular I want to draw your attention to:

I have chosen to keep the "dtend" inconsistency issue *open* because I
have changed my mind about what I think is the best resolution for it
(based on additional evidence collected this year), and very much want
authors and developers to review this issue, and add both their own
research/evidence and opinions towards the goal of making the best
decision for the community:

http://microformats.org/wiki/dtend-issue



I am incorporating the resolutions as follows:

* Minor, informative, and clarifying brainstorming and resolutions
will be applied to the existing hCard and hCalendar pages (often
informative examples and FAQs)

* Minor, normative changes and brainstorming that likely affect
implementations will be made to 1.0.1 versions of hCard and hCalendar
** e.g. requiring implementation of the value-class-pattern.

* Major changes and additions e.g. in brainstorming will be added to
version 1.1 *drafts* for hCard and hCalendar
** e.g. beginning incorporation of stable draft vCard 4.0 properties
into hCard 1.1
** I'll likely track and collect 1.1 additions first on respective
*-brainstorming pages before actually writing up v1.1 drafts.


Note that since hCard and hCalendar are or contain building blocks
used by nearly every other compound microformat, it is highly likely
that many of these resolutions and fixes will make their way into
iterations of most other microformats (such as hReview, hAtom,
hResume, etc.) thus if you're an editor of a microformat, you should
review the resolutions as well.


Thanks,

Tantek


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