[uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client?
I tend to prefer the combination of IRC+wiki, Slightly off topic, but can anyone recommend a good free IRC client for WinXP? -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tantek Ç elik Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:49 PM To: microformats-discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - Marking up experience and presentdate On 10/19/06 3:27 PM, Jeremy Boggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, for now, this is an excellent point to start: http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-issues Thanks for setting this up, Tantek. So, if we want to discuss further issues with this problem, should we post them there, on that wiki page, or continue making comments through email? A while ago I responded to Ciaran's last message in this thread, but if that response (or at least some form of it) should go on the wiki, I'll be glad to do that. Excellent questions Jeremy. There is no simple hard and fast rule, but I have found that the following guidelines seem to help. 1. Discussions work better on the email list (or IRC channel - which is often faster than email). 2. Conclusions/opinions are better recorded on the wiki. In general, I tend to prefer the combination of IRC+wiki, but that is largely my personal preference - YMMV. Clearly email works better for discussing more in depth issues. I've simply found that I am often unable to keep up with all the different threads, and thus end up not replying to some for many days (weeks, months), and then important concluding points get lost because they are never persisted in any form in a place where people can easily find them. That is, the wiki is more reader friendly than email because you can go to the wiki and understand the current state of things, whereas email archives are both hard to search and you have to typically read through a whole thread to understand what points were resolved and how. Thus even for issues - if you believe you have a solid understanding of what an issue is, and that it is an issue, you could add it directly to the appropriate *-issues page. You could then use email as a notification mechanism that you have raised the issue and provide a URL to it on the wiki. OTOH if you're not certain about an issue, then posting to the list can help to clarify/refine it at which point it should probably be captured on the wiki - in the hopes that it will be resolved and respective changes incorporated, and serve as documentation for those who would raise the same issue in the future. Thanks, Tantek ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client?
mIRC is practically free. I don't think it will shut down or anything if you don't register it. It's not that great, but it is used by a lot of people. Xchat is okay, and totally free. I don't know if it's still around but there used to be an IRC client called pIRCh. Of course, there's also always the option of sshing to a linux box and using irssi. -Colin On Oct 20, 2006, at 12:51 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: I tend to prefer the combination of IRC+wiki, Slightly off topic, but can anyone recommend a good free IRC client for WinXP? -Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tantek Ç elik Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:49 PM To: microformats-discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - Marking up experience and presentdate On 10/19/06 3:27 PM, Jeremy Boggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, for now, this is an excellent point to start: http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-issues Thanks for setting this up, Tantek. So, if we want to discuss further issues with this problem, should we post them there, on that wiki page, or continue making comments through email? A while ago I responded to Ciaran's last message in this thread, but if that response (or at least some form of it) should go on the wiki, I'll be glad to do that. Excellent questions Jeremy. There is no simple hard and fast rule, but I have found that the following guidelines seem to help. 1. Discussions work better on the email list (or IRC channel - which is often faster than email). 2. Conclusions/opinions are better recorded on the wiki. In general, I tend to prefer the combination of IRC+wiki, but that is largely my personal preference - YMMV. Clearly email works better for discussing more in depth issues. I've simply found that I am often unable to keep up with all the different threads, and thus end up not replying to some for many days (weeks, months), and then important concluding points get lost because they are never persisted in any form in a place where people can easily find them. That is, the wiki is more reader friendly than email because you can go to the wiki and understand the current state of things, whereas email archives are both hard to search and you have to typically read through a whole thread to understand what points were resolved and how. Thus even for issues - if you believe you have a solid understanding of what an issue is, and that it is an issue, you could add it directly to the appropriate *-issues page. You could then use email as a notification mechanism that you have raised the issue and provide a URL to it on the wiki. OTOH if you're not certain about an issue, then posting to the list can help to clarify/refine it at which point it should probably be captured on the wiki - in the hopes that it will be resolved and respective changes incorporated, and serve as documentation for those who would raise the same issue in the future. Thanks, Tantek ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client?
Mike Schinkel wrote: I tend to prefer the combination of IRC+wiki, Slightly off topic, but can anyone recommend a good free IRC client for WinXP? I use Miranda (which is an all-round IM client and includes IRC) at home and AdiIRC at work. Both are free and nice 'n simple. http://www.miranda-im.org/ http://www.adiirc.com/ Charles -- Charles Roper www.charlesroper.co.uk ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
RE: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client?
Thanks for the all input on chat programs! I'll check'em out and get on the IRC after I come back from this long weekend. -Mike ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client?
On 10/20/06 1:52 AM, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the all input on chat programs! I'll check'em out and get on the IRC after I come back from this long weekend. Mike, perhaps you could add a page to the wiki irc-clients listing the recommendations so far and adding your experiences? http://microformats.org/wiki/irc-clients Then we could even add an FAQ regarding IRC clients. Even if it is not specific to microformats, IRC is very frequently used by the community to rapidly discuss and make progress on various topics/issues and thus having such a resource is a nice convenience. Thanks, Tantek ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
RE: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client?
Sure then, next week. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tantek Ç elik Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:01 AM To: microformats-discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client? On 10/20/06 1:52 AM, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the all input on chat programs! I'll check'em out and get on the IRC after I come back from this long weekend. Mike, perhaps you could add a page to the wiki irc-clients listing the recommendations so far and adding your experiences? http://microformats.org/wiki/irc-clients Then we could even add an FAQ regarding IRC clients. Even if it is not specific to microformats, IRC is very frequently used by the community to rapidly discuss and make progress on various topics/issues and thus having such a resource is a nice convenience. Thanks, Tantek ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
Re: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client?
I use gaim. Nice unified interface for all my chatting needs. On 10/20/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure then, next week. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tantek Ç elik Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:01 AM To: microformats-discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client? On 10/20/06 1:52 AM, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the all input on chat programs! I'll check'em out and get on the IRC after I come back from this long weekend. Mike, perhaps you could add a page to the wiki irc-clients listing the recommendations so far and adding your experiences? http://microformats.org/wiki/irc-clients Then we could even add an FAQ regarding IRC clients. Even if it is not specific to microformats, IRC is very frequently used by the community to rapidly discuss and make progress on various topics/issues and thus having such a resource is a nice convenience. Thanks, Tantek ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
