Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
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I wrote f parser


Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet 
compliant.


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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet
 compliant.

Is this list available on Usenet?

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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Greek letter mu, if I'm not mistaken :)

Jim

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 Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet compliant.

i'd imagine it was a micro symbol :)
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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread Philip Tellis
On 20/09/2007, Ciaran McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet
  compliant.

 Is this list available on Usenet?

well, what you do is, you blast all possible 8 bit sequences through
usenet, and the ones that come out alive... that's your list.
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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On 9/20/07, Philip Tellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well, what you do is, you blast all possible 8 bit sequences through
 usenet, and the ones that come out alive... that's your list.

Is this mailing list available on Usenet?

-Ciaran McNulty
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Re: Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
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McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes



On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet
compliant.


Is this list available on Usenet?


Ack, of course not - I have it configured as a pseudo-newsgroup in my 
combined news  mail client. Sorry.


Nonetheless, the character is not rendering properly, here, at least - 
though it does render properly at:


  
http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-September/010710.html

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RE: [uf-discuss] Optimus - microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is that a bug? The parsing rules at
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-parsing
seem pretty unambiguous:

For all properties, when the element for a property is:

* abbr title: use the value of the 'title' attribute. If there is no
'title' attribute then use the contents of the element.

So am I right in understanding that a parser should always ignore the
contents of abbr? In which case, do the parsing rules need revisiting?

Jim

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I've found a bug :-(

For:

http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/birmingham/indoor.htm

Optimus is rendering the postal code in:

span class=postal-code
  abbr class=geo title=52.4703;-1.9239
B15 3AF
  /abbr
/span

as:

postal-code52.4703;-1.9239/postal-code

and likewise where that postal code is part of an hCalendar's
location.

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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus - microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread Philip Tellis
On 20/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So am I right in understanding that a parser should always ignore the
 contents of abbr? In which case, do the parsing rules need revisiting?

except that in this case, the postal-code element is not abbr, but
span, and it has no title.
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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus ‹ microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 9/20/07 4:47 AM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ack, of course not - I have it configured as a pseudo-newsgroup in my
 combined news  mail client. Sorry.
 
 Nonetheless, the character is not rendering properly, here, at least -
 though it does render properly at:
 
  
 http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-September/0107
 10.html
 

Consider checking the UTF-8 compliance of your combined news  mail client,
as Dmitry Baranovskiy's message headers properly stated:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

And then simply included the UTF-8 mu (or micro symbol) character inline
in the message.

Thanks,

Tantek

P.S. Well done Dmitry Baranovskiy! I'm still playing with Optimus a bunch
more before following up with specific feedback.

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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-19 Thread gareth rushgrove
Hi Dmitry

On 9/19/07, Dmitry Baranovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 Inspired by Brian's X2V[1] and Drew's presentation Can Your Website
 be Your API?[2] I wrote µf parser that transforms any microformatted
 web page to XML or JSON. It could be used as an API to any web site
 with microformats. I hope now we could see some µf based mashups.


Brilliant. I started along a similar road [1] but didn't cover nearly
as much ground, more just a proof of concept.

I'll definately be having a play soon. I note you've made all the
XML/XSL files available for download. Under what licence are these
available? I'd love to be able to use them in commercial projects if
it comes to that.

Gareth

[1] http://morethanseven.net/posts/working-example-of-microformats-as-an-api/

 Characteristics at glance:
 Supported formats:  hCalendar, hCard, hAtom, hResume, hReview,
 xFolkentry, adr, geo, xfn, votelinks, rel-nofollow, rel-tag,
 rel-license
 Output formats: XML, JSON, JSON-P
 URL:http://microformatique.com/optimus/
 Query parameters:   uri — URI of the resource
 format — output format (xml or json, 
 default is xml) [optional]
 function — name of call back function for 
 JSON [optional]
 filter — space separated names of microformats
 (default is vevent vcard 
 hfeed hresume hreview
 xfolkentry adr geo xfn 
 votelinks rel-nofollow rel-tag
 rel-license) [optional]
 Examples:
 http://microformatique.com/optimus/?uri=http://ma.gnolia.com/people/drewm/tags/microformats
 http://microformatique.com/optimus/?uri=http://corkd.com/wine/view/1122format=json
 http://microformatique.com/optimus/?uri=http://johnfallsopp.comformat=jsonfunction=Back


 I happy to hear any feedback, good (on-list) or bad (off-list) :)

 1. http://suda.co.uk/projects/X2V/
 2. http://allinthehead.com/retro/301/can-your-website-be-your-api

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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-19 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On 9/18/07, Dmitry Baranovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 Inspired by Brian's X2V[1] and Drew's presentation Can Your Website
 be Your API?[2] I wrote µf parser that transforms any microformatted
 web page to XML or JSON. It could be used as an API to any web site
 with microformats. I hope now we could see some µf based mashups.

 Characteristics at glance:
 Supported formats:  hCalendar, hCard, hAtom, hResume, hReview,
 xFolkentry, adr, geo, xfn, votelinks, rel-nofollow, rel-tag,
 rel-license
 Output formats: XML, JSON, JSON-P
 URL:http://microformatique.com/optimus/
 Query parameters:   uri — URI of the resource
 format — output format (xml or json, 
 default is xml) [optional]
 function — name of call back function for 
 JSON [optional]
 filter — space separated names of microformats
 (default is vevent vcard 
 hfeed hresume hreview
 xfolkentry adr geo xfn 
 votelinks rel-nofollow rel-tag
 rel-license) [optional]
 Examples:

Wow, this looks great. Now I now what I'll be doing on lunch break :)

:DG

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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-19 Thread André Luís
I think I speak for all when I say: friggin' awesome work!! Thanks for
showing off the xml and xsl as well.

Great things will come out of this, I'm sure.

One thing though.. while testing this url:
http://andr3.net/blog/post/102 the rel-tag's didn't show up under
/microformats/rel-tag. Only under /microformats/xfolkentry/tag. Is
this the expected behavior? I don't even know if I'm using xfolk
correctly, because it's not literally a list of my bookmarks, but a
list of bookmarkable entries... but it raised a doubt that has been
discussed in the past. Shouldn't the tags show up BOTH under the
xfolkentry and also as rel-tag? If someone has reached a final
decision on this, I'd be thankful if someone could point me to it and
sorry.


Cheers,
André Luís
On 9/19/07, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/18/07, Dmitry Baranovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello everyone,
  Inspired by Brian's X2V[1] and Drew's presentation Can Your Website
  be Your API?[2] I wrote µf parser that transforms any microformatted
  web page to XML or JSON. It could be used as an API to any web site
  with microformats. I hope now we could see some µf based mashups.
 
  Characteristics at glance:
  Supported formats:  hCalendar, hCard, hAtom, hResume, hReview,
  xFolkentry, adr, geo, xfn, votelinks, rel-nofollow, rel-tag,
  rel-license
  Output formats: XML, JSON, JSON-P
  URL:http://microformatique.com/optimus/
  Query parameters:   uri — URI of the resource
  format — output format (xml or json, 
  default is xml) [optional]
  function — name of call back function for 
  JSON [optional]
  filter — space separated names of 
  microformats
  (default is vevent vcard 
  hfeed hresume hreview
  xfolkentry adr geo xfn 
  votelinks rel-nofollow rel-tag
  rel-license) [optional]
  Examples:

 Wow, this looks great. Now I now what I'll be doing on lunch break :)

 :DG

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Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-19 Thread Dmitry Baranovskiy
Thanks everyone for warm words. Your positive feedback is the best
donation you could make to the developer. :)

André: It was a bug with elemental µfs. I fixed it.
Gareth: There is rel-licence µf on the page :) Just at the bottom. But
beware: it is only gamma version. :)

I am still waiting for feedback of elders.

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