Re: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-10 Thread Martin McEvoy
Thanks all for your response to this question some of it was quite 
surprising particularly Tobys, H is for Horatio from CSI , I have 
never heard of that great stuff.


A quick recap h in microformats means:

1 the HTML version of or just HTML
2 The Greek letter micro μ (Mu) inverted
3 In hAtom, it the Irish pronunciation of h next to a vowel which is 
softly spoken with a strong spoken A as in hay (is this correct David?)

4 The H from Horatio Cain

Thanks again

Martin


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Re: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-10 Thread David Janes
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Martin McEvoymar...@weborganics.co.uk wrote:
 1 the HTML version of or just HTML
 2 The Greek letter micro μ (Mu) inverted
 3 In hAtom, it the Irish pronunciation of h next to a vowel which is
 softly spoken with a strong spoken A as in hay (is this correct David?)
 4 The H from Horatio Cain
discuss


It'd depend on which bay you call home, but I'd use the a sound from dad [1]

Regards, etc...

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_English

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Re: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-09 Thread Thomas Loertsch



On 09.07.09 10:15, Martin McEvoy mar...@weborganics.co.uk wrote:

 Hello all
 
 I wander if anyone can tell me what the 'h' in microformats means?
 I have always thought 'h' was for 'hypertext' but could it mean
 'hypermedia' or even 'html'
 
 perhaps it means nothing?


my guess: it stands for that certain greek letter that's hard to describe
because it's not on the average keyboard, pronounced mü or miu, common
shortcut for micro. that letter, vertically reflected, looks like an h.


just a guess, but convincing enough that i stopped bothering :-)
thomas

.
Thomas Lörtsch
Gruner+Jahr, Hamburg, Germany
...
eMail: loertsch.tho...@guj.de - 07/2009
 08/2009 - tho...@stray.net



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Re: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-09 Thread Frances Berriman
2009/7/9 Thomas Loertsch loertsch.tho...@guj.de:



 On 09.07.09 10:15, Martin McEvoy mar...@weborganics.co.uk wrote:

 Hello all

 I wander if anyone can tell me what the 'h' in microformats means?
 I have always thought 'h' was for 'hypertext' but could it mean
 'hypermedia' or even 'html'

 perhaps it means nothing?


 my guess: it stands for that certain greek letter that's hard to describe
 because it's not on the average keyboard, pronounced mü or miu, common
 shortcut for micro. that letter, vertically reflected, looks like an h.


 just a guess, but convincing enough that i stopped bothering :-)
 thomas


h stands for whatever you want it to be! *airy fairy disney movie*.




It's html.  Think, this is this thing, represented in html.

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http://fberriman.com

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Re: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-09 Thread André Luís
Martin,

it really doesn't matter that much but from hcard wiki page:


hCard is a simple, open, distributed format for representing people,
companies, organizations, and places, using a 1:1 representation of
vCard (RFC2426) properties and values in semantic HTML or XHTML. hCard
is one of several open microformat standards suitable for embedding in
HTML, XHTML, Atom, RSS, and arbitrary XML.


The h is used both in html and xhtml and it means the same thing,
obviously. So I'd always thought it meant hypertext... but really,
'tis only a tiny detail. :)

Still, I get asked this frequently in training sessions. That and wtf
does FN stand for? Formatted name is not the first that springs to
their mind... :)

Cheers,
--
André Luís

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Thomas Loertschloertsch.tho...@guj.de wrote:



 On 09.07.09 10:15, Martin McEvoy mar...@weborganics.co.uk wrote:

 Hello all

 I wander if anyone can tell me what the 'h' in microformats means?
 I have always thought 'h' was for 'hypertext' but could it mean
 'hypermedia' or even 'html'

 perhaps it means nothing?


 my guess: it stands for that certain greek letter that's hard to describe
 because it's not on the average keyboard, pronounced mü or miu, common
 shortcut for micro. that letter, vertically reflected, looks like an h.


 just a guess, but convincing enough that i stopped bothering :-)
 thomas

 .
 Thomas Lörtsch
 Gruner+Jahr, Hamburg, Germany
 ...
 eMail: loertsch.tho...@guj.de - 07/2009
                                 08/2009 - tho...@stray.net



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Re: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-09 Thread Tantek Çelik
 On 09.07.09 10:15, Martin McEvoy mar...@weborganics.co.uk wrote:

 Hello all

 I wander if anyone can tell me what the 'h' in microformats means?
 I have always thought 'h' was for 'hypertext' but could it mean
 'hypermedia' or even 'html'

It's in the microformats FAQ :)

http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q._What_is_the_.27h.27_for.2C_in_front_of_Calendar_and_Card.3F

As the inventor+namer of hCalendar and hCard[1] (the first use of the
lowercase 'h' prefix convention), I can tell you that the 'h' stands
for the HTML version of, in those cases, of iCalendar and vCard
respectively.

Sometime after the fact (at least a few years ago, before it came up
again in this thread), someone else posited (maybe Rohit?) that the
h looked like an upside down greek letter mu µ which is used in
scientific notation to mean micro - but that was purely a
coincidence.

Tantek

[1] http://tantek.com/log/2004/09.html#d30t1725

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Re: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-09 Thread Toby Inkster
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 09:15 +0100, Martin McEvoy wrote:
 I wander if anyone can tell me what the 'h' in microformats means?

hAtom, hCard, hCalendar, hReview etc are all named after the character
Horatio H Caine from the popular police procedural television series
CSI: Miami.

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Re: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-09 Thread David Janes
Actually, the h in hAtom comes from the preferred way we
Irish-descended Newfoundlanders prefer to pronounce words beginning
with a vowel sound -- i.e. you should be saying it as two syllables,
not three ;-)

Regards, etc...

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Toby Inkster m...@tobyinkster.co.uk wrote:

 On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 09:15 +0100, Martin McEvoy wrote:
  I wander if anyone can tell me what the 'h' in microformats means?

 hAtom, hCard, hCalendar, hReview etc are all named after the character
 Horatio H Caine from the popular police procedural television series
 CSI: Miami.

 --
 Toby A Inkster
 mailto:m...@tobyinkster.co.uk
 http://tobyinkster.co.uk
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RE: [uf-discuss] What does the 'h' in microformats mean?

2009-07-09 Thread Ted Drake
I thought that was the case. 
You know, there is a remarkable similarity between Horatio and Tantek. They
are probably mistaken for each other all the time.
Ted
 

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On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 09:15 +0100, Martin McEvoy wrote:
 I wander if anyone can tell me what the 'h' in microformats means?

hAtom, hCard, hCalendar, hReview etc are all named after the character
Horatio H Caine from the popular police procedural television series
CSI: Miami.

-- 
Toby A Inkster
mailto:m...@tobyinkster.co.uk
http://tobyinkster.co.uk
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