Re: [uf-discuss] hCard multiple locations

2007-08-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

 I would too, but someone else may know of a good reason for limiting
 it to one geo per hCard.

In short: they mean different things.  As Kevin Marks pointed out, GEO
is for physical location.

I don't know of many addresses which do not have a physical location.

If GW Bush has an hCard, with one adr for the White House and another
for Camp David, both have physical locations and both have coordinates.
Or are publishers expected to equip him with a homing device, and
dynamically update the coordinates of /his/ (as opposed to his
addresses') as he moves around?

What about companies, with physical locations in two or more cities?


Similar questions have come up before thus I have gone ahead and added
a new QA to the FAQ:

http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq#How_do_I_mark_up_each_ADR_with_a
_GEO

I don't recall community consensus being reached on this issue (please
feel free to provide a URL if I'm wrong); and I don't think the matter
is as clear-cut as your edit implies.


The problem is that the geo currently relates to the subject of the
hCard and not to each adr within it.


Note also that publishers are *already* using coordinates (both in Geo,
and elsewhere) for entities other than points, such as buildings, hills,
lakes, cities, counties, etc.


I think this issue might need to go on:

http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-issues

if not:

http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-suggestions

or:

http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-errata



-- 
Andy Mabbett

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Re: [uf-discuss] hCard multiple locations

2007-08-27 Thread Ben Ward

On 27 Aug 2007, at 14:54, Jason Karns wrote:

Although not relevant to the discussion, I believe I will continue to
mark up each physical address with its own GEO and let the parsers
extract what they will.  Unless, of course, a more appealing solution
or convincing argument is proposed.


This is possibly an application of the VCARD AGENT property?

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2426.txt (§3.5.4 AGENT Type Definition),  
and the VCARD-RDF implementation at: http://www.w3.org/TR/vcard-rdf  
(§3.6 Agent property).


This describes vcards within vcards, such as for employees of an  
organisation. However, it has never been put into practice in hCard,  
usually dismissed because popular desktop address book applications  
apparently do not handle AGENT.


It sounds reasonable that multiple entities for a business would be  
agents.


Ben
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