Re: [uf-discuss] split full names

2007-10-04 Thread Nick Fitzsimons

On 4 Oct 2007, at 10:31, Thom Shannon wrote:

This isn't strictly microformats related but I thought a few people  
on here might have some advice. Is there an accepted reliable way  
of dividing a full name into given name and family name?


Actually I'm sure the short answer is no, but is there a least evil  
way?


Depends on which cultures you're expecting to encounter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_name

FWIW the majority of people in the world are named with their family  
name *before* their given name, assuming that their culture's naming  
convention includes those components in the first place...


Regards,

Nick.
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Re: [uf-discuss] split full names

2007-10-04 Thread Frances Berriman
On 04/10/2007, Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 4 Oct 2007, at 10:31, Thom Shannon wrote:

  This isn't strictly microformats related but I thought a few people
  on here might have some advice. Is there an accepted reliable way
  of dividing a full name into given name and family name?
 
  Actually I'm sure the short answer is no, but is there a least evil
  way?

 Depends on which cultures you're expecting to encounter:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_name

 FWIW the majority of people in the world are named with their family
 name *before* their given name, assuming that their culture's naming
 convention includes those components in the first place...



The biggest problem, IIRC, is non-hyphenated double first names, like
Mary Jane Smith or something, where Mary Jane is the full first
name.




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Re: [uf-discuss] split full names

2007-10-04 Thread Bob Jonkman
How microformats handle this in hCards is documented on the Wiki at 
http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#Implied_.22n.22_Optimization

It explicitly restricts this fn optimization to two-part names.  

--Bob.


This is what Frances Berriman microformats-discuss@microformats.org said
about Re: [uf-discuss] split full names on 4 Oct 2007 at 11:09

 On 04/10/2007, Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 4 Oct 2007, at 10:31, Thom Shannon wrote:
 
   This isn't strictly microformats related but I thought a few people
   on here might have some advice. Is there an accepted reliable way
   of dividing a full name into given name and family name?
  
   Actually I'm sure the short answer is no, but is there a least evil
   way?
 
  Depends on which cultures you're expecting to encounter:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_name
 
  FWIW the majority of people in the world are named with their family
  name *before* their given name, assuming that their culture's naming
  convention includes those components in the first place...
 
 
 
 The biggest problem, IIRC, is non-hyphenated double first names, like
 Mary Jane Smith or something, where Mary Jane is the full first
 name.
 
 
 
 
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