Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
From: Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] l span class=l line and span class=line would be better. They may be better, but you'll have to take that up with the XHTML 2.0 working group. Here is the working draft for the XHTML 2.0 L element. http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-text.html#edef_text_l -- Paul Wilkins ___ microformats-new mailing list microformats-new@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes l span class=l line and span class=line would be better. -- Andy Mabbett ___ microformats-new mailing list microformats-new@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
On 10/3/07, Michael Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't seem to find a microformat for poetry. I often write poems and post them to my blog (http://blog.yarrt.com), and I sometimes wonder about the best way to code them. Below is the method I have thought of (with one of my poems as an example): -- Michael Walker, Webmaster There are other groups interested in this. It was recently brought up in a thread on the public-html list in the context of HTML5. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Oct/0058.html http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/PoeticSemantics Hope this helps. -Ben ___ microformats-new mailing list microformats-new@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
From: Michael Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
div class=poem
p class=verse
Standing by the roadside,br /
A tall dark man,br /
Wore a long brown coat,br /
Stood in the rain.
/p
I've never been keen with using breaks.
A
more semantically correct answer is provided with XHTML 2.0 where a
line element is defined so that awful breaks aren't required in things
like poems.
If they were used, then the poem would look like this:
p class=verse
lStanding by the roadside,/l
lA tall dark man,/l
lWore a long brown coat,/l
lStood in the rain./l
/p
Until such code is supported though, a modified form can be used
p class=verse
span class=lStanding by the roadside,/span
span class=lA tall dark man,/span
span class=lWore a long brown coat,/span
span class=lStood in the rain./span
/p
with a style of
.l { display: block; }
It's bulkier than just having breaks, but it gives warm fuzzies to the the
semantic leprechaun within me.
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[uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
Well, this is my first post to this mailing list and I thought i'd start
by addressing a problem thats been annoying me for a while.
I can't seem to find a microformat for poetry. I often write poems and
post them to my blog (http://blog.yarrt.com), and I sometimes wonder about
the best way to code them. Below is the method I have thought of (with one
of my poems as an example):
[Heading Text Here, possibly a h1, h2, etc, depending on the context]
div class=poem
p class=verse
Standing by the roadside,br /
A tall dark man,br /
Wore a long brown coat,br /
Stood in the rain.
/p
p class=verse
Explained he had no home,br /
Just travelled the country,br /
Sleeping on the streets,br /
Begging for his food.
/p
p class=verse
Why is he helping me?,br /
Where am I going?,br /
He must have wondered,br /
While stepping into the car.
/p
p class=verse
He seemed uneasy,br /
Not sure to trust me,br /
He had seem too much,br /
To trust people blindly.
/p
/div
I would suggest marking it up with the following CSS rule:
div.poem p.verse{
margin:10px;
}
Possibly with a border around the whole poem, but that is, of course,
completely up to you.
What do you all think?
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Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
Hello Michael, On 10/3/07, Michael Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this is my first post to this mailing list and I thought i'd start by addressing a problem thats been annoying me for a while. I can't seem to find a microformat for poetry. I often write poems and post them to my blog (http://blog.yarrt.com), and I sometimes wonder about the best way to code them. Below is the method I have thought of (with one of my poems as an example): [...] What do you all think? This is an excellent example of POSH. So... you this may be a case for POSH (Plain Old Semantic HTML), instead of a Microformat. Here's more info on POSH... http://microformats.org/wiki/posh Having said that... if there are others putting poems on the web too... then there may be a case to come up with a common POSH format -- a Microformat. If that's the case then you may want to look at the Microformat process... http://microformats.org/wiki/process See ya -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/ Vlog Razor... Vlogging News http://vlograzor.com/ ___ microformats-new mailing list microformats-new@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I can't seem to find a microformat for poetry. What would be the use-case? In other words, what would parsers (browsers or browser plug-ins; other websites) do with poems marked up that way? You should also look at the work which has been done on a proposed citation microformat: http://microformats.org/wiki/citation since a poem on a website is, effectively, cited. Then you should compile examples of poems published on the web: what data is commonly included? You might find, for example, that most poems published are dated, or cre4dit the author. But what else? -- Andy Mabbett ___ microformats-new mailing list microformats-new@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
Re: [uf-new] I propose a new microformat for poems.
you mean a microformat for sonnets, or for haikus or Odes or Sestinas, because Poetry is a broad term that defies an objective structure needed by microformatting. And I agree with previous commenters that this requires a problem. On 10/3/07, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Michael Walker wrote: I can't seem to find a microformat for poetry. I often write poems and post them to my blog (http://blog.yarrt.com), and I sometimes wonder about the best way to code them. Below is the method I have thought of (with one of my poems as an example): Before we get into brainstorming, do you have some specific use cases in mind for such a microformat? What problem are we tying to solve here? If you haven't already, please read about the microformats process: http://microformats.org/wiki/process -- Scott Reynen MakeDataMakeSense.com ___ microformats-new mailing list microformats-new@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new -- Alexandre Van de Sande www.wanderingabout.com rio de janeiro ҉ ___ microformats-new mailing list microformats-new@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new
