Re: [Micronet] Discounts on computers for Faculty and Staff

[Albert Chi]

The Microsoft Store offers educational discounts

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/edu






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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 3:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Micronet] Discounts on computers for Faculty and Staff



On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Greg MERRITT 
mailto:gmerr...@berkeley.edu>> wrote:

> You can use the "Education" link at the bottom of the Apple Store page:

>

> http://store.apple.com/us-hed

>

> Also, you can just show your staff i.d. at a brick & mortar apple store.



Apple also has a refurb store where you can get good deals on one- or

two-generation-old products; they have current models too, but they're

usually only discounted about the same as the education discount.



For PCs, there are lots of places that sell new-old-stock and refurb.

I got a very nice Windows 7 Dell Latitude from thinkgreenpc.com about

six months ago (actually via NewEgg) which I put Ubuntu and Linux Mint

onto. Amazon, NewEgg, B&H, lots of places have good cheap computers,

and some manufacturers have outlets (e.g., Lenovo).



John

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Re: [Micronet] WebEx vs ReadyTalk

[Michelle Bautista]

Hi Christopher,

We're currently working on updating the website and sending announcements
on the change in BlueJeans to various lists.

We were concerned in the early launch that customers wouldn't utilize the
video conferencing and only dial-in. Now that we have over 1000
meetings/month, we're fairly confident the campus is adopting video
conferencing well and will monitor usage.

BlueJeans certainly is optimized for video conferencing, but I've used it
extensively in conference calls that look more like voice over computer.
Audio over internet is not considered dial-in. When I connect to meetings
from my office it's easier for me to connect audio through my computer
rather than phone in.

Also, in mid-sized conference rooms we encourage the use of polycom phones
as the microphone for the meeting room rather than using a web cam mic.

I continue to have regular meetings with the vendor to report any issues or
concerns that the campus may be experiencing in utilizing BlueJeans.

If you have any questions about the service or experience problems
connecting, please feel free to email Campus Shared Services
itcssh...@berkeley.edu.

Regards,
Michelle Bautista
Campus Shared Services IT
BlueJeans Service Manager


On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Christopher Brooks 
wrote:

>  Cool, good to know that dial in is now available with Blue Jeans.  It
> was not previously available.
>
> Maybe http://ist.berkeley.edu/videoconferencing/bluejeans could be
> updated.
>
> That page says:
>
>  * Blue Jeans is geared toward video conferencing and not intended for
> audio only use.
>
>
> From your email, it looks like dial-in only is supported.
>
> At this point, the PIs have had enough experimenting with
> teleconferencing, so I'll need to stick with with ReadyTalk for a bit.
>
> _Christopher
>
>
>  On 11/17/14 4:01 PM, Zane Cooper wrote:
>
>  Hi Christopher,
>
>  The Blue Jeans services at Berkeley have lately changed.  Blue Jeans
> increased the maximum number of endpoints in a meeting session to 100 - not
> 25 as published on the Berkeley web site.  You also now have the capability
> to record meetings.  Also, dial-up is available -- when I set up a Blue
> Jeans meeting, my participants are offered dialup as an option, as you can
> see in the following example:
>
>  [image: Inline image 1]
>
>  If you want to test this out in Blue Jeans, I'd be happy to help.
>
>  Best Regards,
> Zane
>
>
>
>   *Zane Cooper*
>  Chief Technology Officer
> U. C. Berkeley - Haas School Of Business
> t: (510) 642-7280 m: (510) 333 9146 [image: Twitter]
> 
>  e: zcoo...@haas.berkeley.edu|
>  w: http://staff.haas.berkeley.edu/zcooper
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Christopher Brooks  > wrote:
>
>> As some of you may remember, I was not that happy with ReadyTalk. We
>> tried WebEx and are now going back to ReadyTalk.
>>
>> We tried WebEx because WebEx has an easy way for phone in callers to be
>> identified in the app and all participants can see who else is on the
>> call and who is speaking
>>
>> ReadyTalk calls from a cell phone into the system had lower audio
>> quality than WebEx and AT&T.
>>
>> Our usage model is that we have 2-3 calls per week for two different
>> centers.  We send out email to the center-wide mailing list.  The calls
>> have 8-28 participants on them.We do not require people to
>> register.  Typically we have as many as 5000 minutes per month, with
>> most people dialed in as opposed to using VoIP.
>>
>> The down sides of WebEx are below.
>>
>> WebEx has at least three different products that all have slightly
>> different interfaces.  We ended up using the Event Center, so my
>> feedback is mostly about that product.  I've also used the Training
>> Center.
>>
>> We went with EventCenter because we have more than 25 callers.  With
>> Meeting Center, there was an additional charge for for more than 25
>> callers.
>>
>> My understanding is that none of the WebEx products have a way to send
>> out reminder email to the invitees.  Instead, they expect people to
>> register and then get reminded.  Our model is that we don't ask center
>> participants to register for these regular meetings.  Readytalk has a
>> way to remind invitees with an email message, (BTW - ReadyTalk wants me
>> to upload each email address and send invitations individually.  I
>> consider the list of participants to be somewhat restricted and am not
>> comfortable passing this list to ReadyTalk.  ReadyTalk's invitation does
>> allow people to opt out, but when people reply, they opt out the entire
>> list.  So, ReadyTalk is not perfect here, but better than WebEx).
>>
>> The lack of invitation reminders is the primary thing that is driving me
>> back to ReadyTalk.
>>
>> WebEx's Event Center does not have an easy way to preview the invitation
>> emails, or at least I have not found it.
>>
>> Event Center is really for a 1:N styl

Re: [Micronet] WebEx vs ReadyTalk

[Christopher Brooks]

Cool, good to know that dial in is now available with Blue Jeans.  It 
was not previously available.


Maybe http://ist.berkeley.edu/videoconferencing/bluejeans could be updated.

That page says:
 * Blue Jeans is geared toward video conferencing and not intended for 
audio only use. 


From your email, it looks like dial-in only is supported.

At this point, the PIs have had enough experimenting with 
teleconferencing, so I'll need to stick with with ReadyTalk for a bit.


_Christopher

On 11/17/14 4:01 PM, Zane Cooper wrote:

Hi Christopher,

The Blue Jeans services at Berkeley have lately changed.  Blue Jeans 
increased the maximum number of endpoints in a meeting session to 100 
- not 25 as published on the Berkeley web site.  You also now have the 
capability to record meetings. Also, dial-up is available -- when I 
set up a Blue Jeans meeting, my participants are offered dialup as an 
option, as you can see in the following example:


Inline image 1

If you want to test this out in Blue Jeans, I'd be happy to help.

Best Regards,
Zane



**
*Zane Cooper*
Chief Technology Officer
U. C. Berkeley - Haas School Of Business
t: (510) 642-7280 m: (510) 333 9146 Twitter 


e: zcoo...@haas.berkeley.edu |
w:http://staff.haas.berkeley.edu/zcooper


On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Christopher Brooks 
mailto:c...@eecs.berkeley.edu>> wrote:


As some of you may remember, I was not that happy with ReadyTalk. We
tried WebEx and are now going back to ReadyTalk.

We tried WebEx because WebEx has an easy way for phone in callers
to be
identified in the app and all participants can see who else is on the
call and who is speaking

ReadyTalk calls from a cell phone into the system had lower audio
quality than WebEx and AT&T.

Our usage model is that we have 2-3 calls per week for two different
centers.  We send out email to the center-wide mailing list.  The
calls
have 8-28 participants on them.We do not require people to
register.  Typically we have as many as 5000 minutes per month, with
most people dialed in as opposed to using VoIP.

The down sides of WebEx are below.

WebEx has at least three different products that all have slightly
different interfaces.  We ended up using the Event Center, so my
feedback is mostly about that product.  I've also used the
Training Center.

We went with EventCenter because we have more than 25 callers.  With
Meeting Center, there was an additional charge for for more than
25 callers.

My understanding is that none of the WebEx products have a way to send
out reminder email to the invitees.  Instead, they expect people to
register and then get reminded.  Our model is that we don't ask center
participants to register for these regular meetings. Readytalk has a
way to remind invitees with an email message, (BTW - ReadyTalk
wants me
to upload each email address and send invitations individually.  I
consider the list of participants to be somewhat restricted and am not
comfortable passing this list to ReadyTalk.  ReadyTalk's
invitation does
allow people to opt out, but when people reply, they opt out the
entire
list.  So, ReadyTalk is not perfect here, but better than WebEx).

The lack of invitation reminders is the primary thing that is
driving me
back to ReadyTalk.

WebEx's Event Center does not have an easy way to preview the
invitation
emails, or at least I have not found it.

Event Center is really for a 1:N style meeting where you don't
want the
participants to be able to speak.  It is possible to enable all the
participants to speak, but the person running the meeting needs to
enable this for each participant.  One needs to keep an eye on a
window
that does not resize and select a check box and then select
enable.  As
people call in this is trick.

If I select all and then unmute, all the participants are unmuted,
including people that have selected mute.  This is bad because all
of a
sudden what ever people are saying is heard by everyone.

We wanted to set up a recurring meeting so that the URL did not
change.
My understanding is that with WebEx's Event Center, there is no way to
set up a recurring meeting.  We would need to upgrade to Training
Center.

WebEx changes $0.075/minute/person for toll free calling.  I believe
ReadyTalk is $0.023/minute/person.

I've also used WebEx's Training Center.  It works a bit better, but we
were quoted $225/month + long distance charges.I believe that for
3000 minutes, we were quotes $225/month, so going with TrainingCenter
for 5000 min would be $225/3000min. * 5000min. + $225 = $600.  By
comparison, I had 5032 minutes of ReadyTalk in Sept

Re: [Micronet] WebEx vs ReadyTalk

[Zane Cooper]

Hi Christopher,

The Blue Jeans services at Berkeley have lately changed.  Blue Jeans
increased the maximum number of endpoints in a meeting session to 100 - not
25 as published on the Berkeley web site.  You also now have the capability
to record meetings.  Also, dial-up is available -- when I set up a Blue
Jeans meeting, my participants are offered dialup as an option, as you can
see in the following example:

[image: Inline image 1]

If you want to test this out in Blue Jeans, I'd be happy to help.

Best Regards,
Zane



*Zane Cooper*
Chief Technology Officer
U. C. Berkeley - Haas School Of Business
t: (510) 642-7280 m: (510) 333 9146 [image: Twitter]

e: zcoo...@haas.berkeley.edu|
w: http://staff.haas.berkeley.edu/zcooper


On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Christopher Brooks 
wrote:

> As some of you may remember, I was not that happy with ReadyTalk. We
> tried WebEx and are now going back to ReadyTalk.
>
> We tried WebEx because WebEx has an easy way for phone in callers to be
> identified in the app and all participants can see who else is on the
> call and who is speaking
>
> ReadyTalk calls from a cell phone into the system had lower audio
> quality than WebEx and AT&T.
>
> Our usage model is that we have 2-3 calls per week for two different
> centers.  We send out email to the center-wide mailing list.  The calls
> have 8-28 participants on them.We do not require people to
> register.  Typically we have as many as 5000 minutes per month, with
> most people dialed in as opposed to using VoIP.
>
> The down sides of WebEx are below.
>
> WebEx has at least three different products that all have slightly
> different interfaces.  We ended up using the Event Center, so my
> feedback is mostly about that product.  I've also used the Training Center.
>
> We went with EventCenter because we have more than 25 callers.  With
> Meeting Center, there was an additional charge for for more than 25
> callers.
>
> My understanding is that none of the WebEx products have a way to send
> out reminder email to the invitees.  Instead, they expect people to
> register and then get reminded.  Our model is that we don't ask center
> participants to register for these regular meetings.  Readytalk has a
> way to remind invitees with an email message, (BTW - ReadyTalk wants me
> to upload each email address and send invitations individually.  I
> consider the list of participants to be somewhat restricted and am not
> comfortable passing this list to ReadyTalk.  ReadyTalk's invitation does
> allow people to opt out, but when people reply, they opt out the entire
> list.  So, ReadyTalk is not perfect here, but better than WebEx).
>
> The lack of invitation reminders is the primary thing that is driving me
> back to ReadyTalk.
>
> WebEx's Event Center does not have an easy way to preview the invitation
> emails, or at least I have not found it.
>
> Event Center is really for a 1:N style meeting where you don't want the
> participants to be able to speak.  It is possible to enable all the
> participants to speak, but the person running the meeting needs to
> enable this for each participant.  One needs to keep an eye on a window
> that does not resize and select a check box and then select enable.  As
> people call in this is trick.
>
> If I select all and then unmute, all the participants are unmuted,
> including people that have selected mute.  This is bad because all of a
> sudden what ever people are saying is heard by everyone.
>
> We wanted to set up a recurring meeting so that the URL did not change.
> My understanding is that with WebEx's Event Center, there is no way to
> set up a recurring meeting.  We would need to upgrade to Training Center.
>
> WebEx changes $0.075/minute/person for toll free calling.  I believe
> ReadyTalk is $0.023/minute/person.
>
> I've also used WebEx's Training Center.  It works a bit better, but we
> were quoted $225/month + long distance charges.I believe that for
> 3000 minutes, we were quotes $225/month, so going with TrainingCenter
> for 5000 min would be $225/3000min. * 5000min. + $225 = $600.  By
> comparison, I had 5032 minutes of ReadyTalk in September for $146.  I
> don't see WebEx as 4x better than ReadyTalk.
>
> TrainingCenter does not have the 1:N problem in EventCenter. Training
> Center does have a Call Me button that is helpful.
>
> One place where ReadyTalk really shines over WebEx is that ReadyTalk's
> support is excellent.  When I've had issues with ReadyTalk, their
> support has contacted me promptly.  I did not speak directly with WebEx
> support, but my staff stated that WebEx support was not that familiar
> with product.I feel that ReadyTalk support really try to address
> problems and get feature requests into the system.
>
> Also, ReadyTalk's email includes calendar entries that easily work with
> Bcal, I just click on the link and it gets ad

Re: [Micronet] WebEx vs ReadyTalk

[Gladys Oddoye]

Chris,

Thank you very much for your observation and sharing your thoughts on 
the different conference call services.  We've made a note of the areas 
where you indicated ReadyTalk could improve.  We will be sure to share 
that with them.   This is a very insightful read.

Gladys



On 11/17/2014 3:35 PM, Christopher Brooks wrote:
> As some of you may remember, I was not that happy with ReadyTalk. We
> tried WebEx and are now going back to ReadyTalk.
>
> We tried WebEx because WebEx has an easy way for phone in callers to be
> identified in the app and all participants can see who else is on the
> call and who is speaking
>
> ReadyTalk calls from a cell phone into the system had lower audio
> quality than WebEx and AT&T.
>
> Our usage model is that we have 2-3 calls per week for two different
> centers.  We send out email to the center-wide mailing list.  The calls
> have 8-28 participants on them.We do not require people to
> register.  Typically we have as many as 5000 minutes per month, with
> most people dialed in as opposed to using VoIP.
>
> The down sides of WebEx are below.
>
> WebEx has at least three different products that all have slightly
> different interfaces.  We ended up using the Event Center, so my
> feedback is mostly about that product.  I've also used the Training Center.
>
> We went with EventCenter because we have more than 25 callers.  With
> Meeting Center, there was an additional charge for for more than 25 callers.
>
> My understanding is that none of the WebEx products have a way to send
> out reminder email to the invitees.  Instead, they expect people to
> register and then get reminded.  Our model is that we don't ask center
> participants to register for these regular meetings.  Readytalk has a
> way to remind invitees with an email message, (BTW - ReadyTalk wants me
> to upload each email address and send invitations individually.  I
> consider the list of participants to be somewhat restricted and am not
> comfortable passing this list to ReadyTalk.  ReadyTalk's invitation does
> allow people to opt out, but when people reply, they opt out the entire
> list.  So, ReadyTalk is not perfect here, but better than WebEx).
>
> The lack of invitation reminders is the primary thing that is driving me
> back to ReadyTalk.
>
> WebEx's Event Center does not have an easy way to preview the invitation
> emails, or at least I have not found it.
>
> Event Center is really for a 1:N style meeting where you don't want the
> participants to be able to speak.  It is possible to enable all the
> participants to speak, but the person running the meeting needs to
> enable this for each participant.  One needs to keep an eye on a window
> that does not resize and select a check box and then select enable.  As
> people call in this is trick.
>
> If I select all and then unmute, all the participants are unmuted,
> including people that have selected mute.  This is bad because all of a
> sudden what ever people are saying is heard by everyone.
>
> We wanted to set up a recurring meeting so that the URL did not change.
> My understanding is that with WebEx's Event Center, there is no way to
> set up a recurring meeting.  We would need to upgrade to Training Center.
>
> WebEx changes $0.075/minute/person for toll free calling.  I believe
> ReadyTalk is $0.023/minute/person.
>
> I've also used WebEx's Training Center.  It works a bit better, but we
> were quoted $225/month + long distance charges.I believe that for
> 3000 minutes, we were quotes $225/month, so going with TrainingCenter
> for 5000 min would be $225/3000min. * 5000min. + $225 = $600.  By
> comparison, I had 5032 minutes of ReadyTalk in September for $146.  I
> don't see WebEx as 4x better than ReadyTalk.
>
> TrainingCenter does not have the 1:N problem in EventCenter. Training
> Center does have a Call Me button that is helpful.
>
> One place where ReadyTalk really shines over WebEx is that ReadyTalk's
> support is excellent.  When I've had issues with ReadyTalk, their
> support has contacted me promptly.  I did not speak directly with WebEx
> support, but my staff stated that WebEx support was not that familiar
> with product.I feel that ReadyTalk support really try to address
> problems and get feature requests into the system.
>
> Also, ReadyTalk's email includes calendar entries that easily work with
> Bcal, I just click on the link and it gets added to the calendar.
> WebEx's email has an iCal attachment that I need to save and then import
> separately.
>
> It would be really great if ReadyTalk made it easier for people to be
> identified in the call.  Also, the participants should be able to see
> the names of the other speakers and who is speaking.  ReadyTalk has
> other issues, such as the invitation opt out issue.
>
> ReadyTalk has international dial in numbers that are easily included in
> the invitation email.
>
> I think WebEx is geared towards a different use case than my use case.
> It expects people to regis

[Micronet] WebEx vs ReadyTalk

[Christopher Brooks]

As some of you may remember, I was not that happy with ReadyTalk. We 
tried WebEx and are now going back to ReadyTalk.

We tried WebEx because WebEx has an easy way for phone in callers to be 
identified in the app and all participants can see who else is on the 
call and who is speaking

ReadyTalk calls from a cell phone into the system had lower audio 
quality than WebEx and AT&T.

Our usage model is that we have 2-3 calls per week for two different 
centers.  We send out email to the center-wide mailing list.  The calls 
have 8-28 participants on them.We do not require people to 
register.  Typically we have as many as 5000 minutes per month, with 
most people dialed in as opposed to using VoIP.

The down sides of WebEx are below.

WebEx has at least three different products that all have slightly 
different interfaces.  We ended up using the Event Center, so my 
feedback is mostly about that product.  I've also used the Training Center.

We went with EventCenter because we have more than 25 callers.  With 
Meeting Center, there was an additional charge for for more than 25 callers.

My understanding is that none of the WebEx products have a way to send 
out reminder email to the invitees.  Instead, they expect people to 
register and then get reminded.  Our model is that we don't ask center 
participants to register for these regular meetings.  Readytalk has a 
way to remind invitees with an email message, (BTW - ReadyTalk wants me 
to upload each email address and send invitations individually.  I 
consider the list of participants to be somewhat restricted and am not 
comfortable passing this list to ReadyTalk.  ReadyTalk's invitation does 
allow people to opt out, but when people reply, they opt out the entire 
list.  So, ReadyTalk is not perfect here, but better than WebEx).

The lack of invitation reminders is the primary thing that is driving me 
back to ReadyTalk.

WebEx's Event Center does not have an easy way to preview the invitation 
emails, or at least I have not found it.

Event Center is really for a 1:N style meeting where you don't want the 
participants to be able to speak.  It is possible to enable all the 
participants to speak, but the person running the meeting needs to 
enable this for each participant.  One needs to keep an eye on a window 
that does not resize and select a check box and then select enable.  As 
people call in this is trick.

If I select all and then unmute, all the participants are unmuted, 
including people that have selected mute.  This is bad because all of a 
sudden what ever people are saying is heard by everyone.

We wanted to set up a recurring meeting so that the URL did not change. 
My understanding is that with WebEx's Event Center, there is no way to 
set up a recurring meeting.  We would need to upgrade to Training Center.

WebEx changes $0.075/minute/person for toll free calling.  I believe 
ReadyTalk is $0.023/minute/person.

I've also used WebEx's Training Center.  It works a bit better, but we 
were quoted $225/month + long distance charges.I believe that for 
3000 minutes, we were quotes $225/month, so going with TrainingCenter 
for 5000 min would be $225/3000min. * 5000min. + $225 = $600.  By 
comparison, I had 5032 minutes of ReadyTalk in September for $146.  I 
don't see WebEx as 4x better than ReadyTalk.

TrainingCenter does not have the 1:N problem in EventCenter. Training 
Center does have a Call Me button that is helpful.

One place where ReadyTalk really shines over WebEx is that ReadyTalk's 
support is excellent.  When I've had issues with ReadyTalk, their 
support has contacted me promptly.  I did not speak directly with WebEx 
support, but my staff stated that WebEx support was not that familiar 
with product.I feel that ReadyTalk support really try to address 
problems and get feature requests into the system.

Also, ReadyTalk's email includes calendar entries that easily work with 
Bcal, I just click on the link and it gets added to the calendar. 
WebEx's email has an iCal attachment that I need to save and then import 
separately.

It would be really great if ReadyTalk made it easier for people to be 
identified in the call.  Also, the participants should be able to see 
the names of the other speakers and who is speaking.  ReadyTalk has 
other issues, such as the invitation opt out issue.

ReadyTalk has international dial in numbers that are easily included in 
the invitation email.

I think WebEx is geared towards a different use case than my use case.  
It expects people to register.  It is not geared towards collaborative 
meetings of more than 25 people.  WebEx is over 4x the cost of 
ReadyTalk.  WebEx support is not as good as ReadyTalk support.

BTW - Blue Jeans is out of scope because there is no dial in option and 
it is limited to 25 people.  For a comparison between ReadyTalk and 
BlueJeans, see http://ist.berkeley.edu/videoconferencing/comparison

Also, AT&T's teleconferencing solution on the Mac is abysmal.

Re: [Micronet] Discounts on computers for Faculty and Staff

[John McChesney-Young]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Greg MERRITT  wrote:
> You can use the "Education" link at the bottom of the Apple Store page:
>
> http://store.apple.com/us-hed
>
> Also, you can just show your staff i.d. at a brick & mortar apple store.

Apple also has a refurb store where you can get good deals on one- or
two-generation-old products; they have current models too, but they're
usually only discounted about the same as the education discount.

For PCs, there are lots of places that sell new-old-stock and refurb.
I got a very nice Windows 7 Dell Latitude from thinkgreenpc.com about
six months ago (actually via NewEgg) which I put Ubuntu and Linux Mint
onto. Amazon, NewEgg, B&H, lots of places have good cheap computers,
and some manufacturers have outlets (e.g., Lenovo).

John
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Re: [Micronet] Discounts on computers for Faculty and Staff

[Greg MERRITT]

You can use the "Education" link at the bottom of the Apple Store page:

http://store.apple.com/us-hed

Also, you can just show your staff i.d. at a brick & mortar apple store.

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Re: [Micronet] Discounts on computers for Faculty and Staff

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On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Jon Forrest  wrote:

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> On 11/17/2014 2:49 PM, Beth Muramoto wrote:
> > I expect to hear laughter and snorts of disbelief with this question,
> > but back in the day, faculty and staff got discounts (piddly to
> > non-existent as they were, especially for Apple products) on buying
> > their own computers through Scholar's Workstation.
>
> And sometimes, except for the Apple products, we
> were even given prices higher than what we could get
> elsewhere.
>
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Re: [Micronet] Discounts on computers for Faculty and Staff

[Jon Forrest]

On 11/17/2014 2:49 PM, Beth Muramoto wrote:
> I expect to hear laughter and snorts of disbelief with this question,
> but back in the day, faculty and staff got discounts (piddly to
> non-existent as they were, especially for Apple products) on buying
> their own computers through Scholar's Workstation.

And sometimes, except for the Apple products, we
were even given prices higher than what we could get
elsewhere.

Jon Forrest
UCB (ret.)

 
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Re: [Micronet] Discounts on computers for Faculty and Staff

[Ian Crew]

Yes, for Apple at least: http://store.apple.com/us-hed 


I’m sure others will chime in with the equivalents for Dell, etc.

Ian

> On Nov 17, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Beth Muramoto  wrote:
> 
> I expect to hear laughter and snorts of disbelief with this question, but 
> back in the day, faculty and staff got discounts (piddly to non-existent as 
> they were, especially for Apple products) on buying their own computers 
> through Scholar's Workstation. Does that even exist anymore?
> 
> You can commence laughing now.
> 
> Beth
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> Beth Muramoto
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> 1650 Tolman Hall
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> Email:  mailto:bmura...@berkeley.edu 
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> Fax:  (510) 643-6239
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> “Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some 
> blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can. 
> Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit 
> to be encumbered with your old nonsense.” 
> -Emerson
> 
> This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you 
> can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy 
> tomorrow.
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Re: [Micronet] Filemaker Books available

[Richard DESHONG]

Thanks List Members.  Two people replied right away.  They should have a
home.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Richard DESHONG 
wrote:

> I have 3 books related to FileMaker that I no longer need:
>
> Special Edition Using FileMaker 7
>   Lane Bowers, Love, Moyer
>
> FileMaker Pro 7 Bible
>   Schwartz and Cohen
>
> The Book of FileMaker 6
>   Kubica
>
> Checking if anyone wants them before I recycle.
>
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> 164 Chavez Student Center, Berkeley, CA, 94720-4220
> 510-642-5123 asc.berkeley.edu
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[Micronet] Discounts on computers for Faculty and Staff

[Beth Muramoto]

I expect to hear laughter and snorts of disbelief with this question, but
back in the day, faculty and staff got discounts (piddly to non-existent as
they were, especially for Apple products) on buying their own computers
through Scholar's Workstation. Does that even exist anymore?

You can commence laughing now.

Beth

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Computer Resource Specialist
Graduate School of Education
University of California, Berkeley
1650 Tolman Hall
Berkeley, CA 94720
Email:  mailto:bmura...@berkeley.edu
Phone:  (510) 643-0203
Fax:  (510) 643-6239

“Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some
blunders and absurdities have crept in – forget them as soon as you can.
Tomorrow is a new day. You shall begin it serenely and with too high a
spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense.”
-Emerson

This is the essence of forgiveness. You can't change what happened but you
can make sure it doesn't have the power to prevent you from being happy
tomorrow.

 -Paul Boese

“Kind words do not cost much yet they accomplish much.”

-Blaise Pascal


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[Micronet] Free TN530 toner cartridge for Brother printers

[David Spiegelman]

First person to email me gets it. 

http://www.staples.com/Brother-TN-530-Black-Toner-Cartridge/product_503858



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[Micronet] Filemaker Books available

[Richard DESHONG]

I have 3 books related to FileMaker that I no longer need:

Special Edition Using FileMaker 7
  Lane Bowers, Love, Moyer

FileMaker Pro 7 Bible
  Schwartz and Cohen

The Book of FileMaker 6
  Kubica

Checking if anyone wants them before I recycle.

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164 Chavez Student Center, Berkeley, CA, 94720-4220
510-642-5123 asc.berkeley.edu
 
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Re: [Micronet] tomlab /cplex

[Jeffrey J. ANDERSON-LEE]

Tomlab/cplex?

Anyone? Anyone? Beuller?

Jeff Anderson-Lee
EECS

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Jeffrey J. ANDERSON-LEE <
jo...@eecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> One of my researchers is interested in using tomlab /cplex. Does anyone
> know if there is a campus/departmental license for this or who we might
> contact for licensing?
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> EECS
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