Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang fails to start upon reboot
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, jef moskot wrote: The problem leaves this evidence in /var/log/maillog Nov 7 23:45:30 phantom mimedefang-multiplexor[936]: Starting slave 1 (pid 1238) (1 running): Bringing slaves up to minSlaves (2) Nov 7 23:45:30 phantom mimedefang-multiplexor[936]: Slave 1 stderr: Out of memory during request for 4088 bytes, total sbrk() is 9553920 bytes! Nov 7 23:45:30 phantom mimedefang-multiplexor[936]: Slave 1 stderr: Out of memory during request for 48 bytes, total sbrk() is 9553920 bytes! Nov 7 23:45:30 phantom mimedefang-multiplexor[936]: Reap: slave 1 (pid 1238) exited due to signal 11 (SLAVE DIED UNEXPECTEDLY) Nov 7 23:45:30 phantom mimedefang-multiplexor[936]: Slave 1 resource usage: req=0, scans=0, user=0.092, sys=0.056, nswap=0, majflt=0, minflt=3101, maxrss=13432, bi=5, bo=18 OK, this is might be blindingly obvious to you all (or a curiosity of FreeBSD, I dunno), but I've just discovered the world of rcorder with its mysterious PROVIDE/REQUIRE/BEFORE/KEYWORD magic. The default setup for mimedefang.sh in /usr/local/etc/rc.d is # PROVIDE: mimedefang # REQUIRE: LOGIN # BEFORE: mail # KEYWORD: shutdown PROVIDE and KEYWORD seem to be no-brainers, but what would the error above indicate mimedefang wants that it doesn't yet have? Maybe not all the CPUs are fired up yet? Or it doesn't have swap space? Is mimedefang unhappy if the sendmail daemon is not yet running when it tries to start? To recap, upon reboot, mimedefang continually pukes out error messages like the ones listed above until the process is manually stopped and restarted. After that, it works just fine. Sorry if I'm dipping into the realm of port creation, but the maintainer for the FreeBSD port takes ages to respond, and if this is potentially something simple, I thought I'd ask you guys first (and then pass on whatever we learn to the maintainer). Thanks. Jeffrey Moskot System Administrator j...@math.miami.edu ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang fails to start upon reboot
Jef, Nov 7 23:45:30 phantom mimedefang-multiplexor[936]: Starting slave 1 (pid 1238) (1 running): Bringing slaves up to minSlaves (2) Nov 7 23:45:30 phantom mimedefang-multiplexor[936]: Slave 1 stderr: Out of memory during request for 4088 bytes, total sbrk() is 9553920 bytes! Nov 7 23:45:30 phantom mimedefang-multiplexor[936]: Slave 1 stderr: Out of memory during request for 48 bytes, total sbrk() is 9553920 bytes! Nov 7 23:45:30 phantom mimedefang-multiplexor[936]: Reap: slave 1 (pid 1238) exited due to signal 11 (SLAVE DIED UNEXPECTEDLY) To recap, upon reboot, mimedefang continually pukes out error messages like the ones listed above until the process is manually stopped and restarted. After that, it works just fine. So the system runs OK under your environment, but not under the startup environment. From the error messages, I'd suspect that you have somehow limited the memory use of processes on the system by default, and then in your interactive environment you specifically remove any limits, so when you start it manually all is OK. To test this, include some code in the system startup script to dump the current shell limits to a temp file, and see what happens when you next restart the system. MIMEDefang processes are fairly memory hungry because they load the full SpamAssassin rule set, so if you have limited the memory use they may hit that limit either as they start, or once messages start to come in. On the start order, MIMEDefang does indeed start before Sendmail, as it creates a socket which Sendmail expects to find on startup. Best Wishes, Paul. --- Paul Murphy Head of I.T. Argenta Discovery 2009 Ltd Tel. 01279 645 554 Fax. 01279 645 646 ___ Argenta Discovery 2009 Ltd, 8-9 Spire Green Centre, Harlow, Essex, CM19 5TR Registered in England No. 06920289 ___ ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
[Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
hi, I have a silly question. As i try to install mimedefang and postfix on debian it seems debian want to install sendmail and remove postfix as soon as i say the 'mimedefang' word. Is there any way to make this work or are we doomed to sendmail on debian ? The following NEW packages will be installed: libconvert-binhex-perl{a} libdrm2{a} libfontenc1{a} libgl1-mesa-glx{a} libice6{a} libio-stringy-perl{a} libmilter1.0.1{a} libmime-tools-perl{a} libperl5.10{a} libsm6{a} libunix-syslog-perl{a} libxaw7{a} libxdamage1{a} libxfixes3{a} libxft2{a} libxi6{a} libxinerama1{a} libxmu6{a} libxrender1{a} libxt6{a} libxtst6{a} libxv1{a} libxxf86dga1{a} libxxf86vm1{a} m4{a} mimedefang sendmail{a} sendmail-base{a} sendmail-bin{a} sendmail-cf{a} sensible-mda{a} tcl8.3{a} tk8.3{a} x11-utils{a} xbitmaps{a} xterm{a} The following packages will be REMOVED: postfix{a} -- Cordialement, Ghislain smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
ok i think i got it working by: - installing mimedefang - stopping sendmail - purging sendmail - installing postfix again strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way -- Cordialement, Ghislain smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
[Mimedefang] new install
Ive installed mimedefang sucessfully. Its installed on a redhat dist. I copied the redhat init script to /etc/init.d and tried to get it to start. I get an error message that says: Starting mimedefang-multiplexor: ERROR: You must not run mimedefang-multiplexor as root. Use the -U option to set a non-root user. [FAILED] Starting mimedefang: ERROR: You must not run mimedefang as root. Use the -U option to set a non-root user. Can someone help me with the syntax of the init file so it will start mimedefang as a user named defang? Ive been reading throught the readme and man pages, but dont seem to be able to wrap my brain around the syntax. thanks, ddh -- Dwayne Hottinger Network Administrator Harrisonburg City Public Schools Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in times of moral crisis, preserved their neutrality. -- Dante ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] Email in Korean language becomes clutterd and unreadable when received.
Aniruddha Barua zm...@yahoo.com wrote: One Korean buyer was visiting a Garments factory in Chittagong, BANGLADESH. He sent an email in Korean Language to his office in Seoul using our SMTP server running MIMEDefang 2.67 + sendmail + clamav. The email successfully reaches the destination mailbox but when the recipient opens the message, he/she finds the entire message to be cluttered and unreadable. When the sender sends Korean messages using the same server running without the MIMEDefang, the message is readable. Need help to configure MIMEDefang for Korean and foreign language support or to solve the problem otherwise. Could you post headers of both messages? Suspect number one: Lack of declaration of charset used by sending client. The recipients most likely can guess right *missing* declaration but if any smtp sender between fills missing charset the guessing fails. -- [plen: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu The only problem with seeing too much is that it makes you insane. -- Phaedrus ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. According to Debian site mimedefang package for stable (lenny) sendmail at recommends list: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/mimedefang -- [plen: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu They spell it da Vinci and pronounce it da Vinchy. Foreigners always spell better than they pronounce. -- Mark Twain ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
Andrzej Adam Filip wrote: According to Debian site mimedefang package for stable (lenny) sendmail at recommends list: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/mimedefang I think that's a bug. It should be suggests, because AFAIK apt-get now pulls in recommends packages unless you tell it otherwise. There are at least two good reasons to want to run MIMEDefang on a machine that isn't also running Sendmail, so the Debian policy should change. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 13:00 -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. (I'm not the package maintainer, nor affiliated with him.) The mimedefang package [1] in Debian, regardless of which version of Debian you're running, doesn't depend on sendmail, it only recommends it. Thus, you should be able to have it installed without sendmail. Is MIMEDefang useful in any way without either sendmail or postfix installed? It seems to me that the package should say: Depends: sendmail | postfix. Richard [1] http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mimedefang signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
Richard Laager wrote: The mimedefang package [1] in Debian, regardless of which version of Debian you're running, doesn't depend on sendmail, it only recommends it. Thus, you should be able to have it installed without sendmail. Except, AFAIK, Debian is moving towards automatically installing recommended packages, or at least some of its package-management tools do this. Is MIMEDefang useful in any way without either sendmail or postfix installed? Sure. You could have a dedicated scanner that doesn't run an MTA. It could communicate via TCP/IP with the machines that run the MTA. Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 13:35 -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: I think that's a bug. It should be suggests, because AFAIK apt-get now pulls in recommends packages unless you tell it otherwise. As an aside, I was never a fan of this change, as it seems to lead to exactly this. There are at least two good reasons to want to run MIMEDefang on a machine that isn't also running Sendmail, so the Debian policy should change. One of those is that you'd want to use Postfix, Recommends: sendmail | postfix (or even Depends, from my last email) should address that one. What's the other use? Is it to run watch-mimedefang? If that's the case, maybe that should just be split out into a separate package. I see there's already an open bug suggesting that. Richard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, David F. Skoll wrote: Richard Laager wrote: What's the other use? I mentioned it in another post: You might want a standalone scanner that communicates with your MTAs via TCP. I don't really like that arrangement, but I'm pretty sure there are real-life MIMEDefang deployments that work that way. Yes, there are :-) Particularly when the number of MTA and mdf servers is large but not equal and the mdf servers run older-style memory file systems. Len ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
David F. Skoll a écrit : ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. i will try to contact him. I run also in another issue. Postfix runs as the user posfix and i do not found any way to configure mimedefang to have a socket that let the postfix user to communicate with it. Is there any parameters i missed for this ? adding some sleep 10; chmod 770 and chgrp postfix to the socket seems...weird to me :) -- Cordialement, Ghislain smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
ADNET Ghislain gad...@aqueos.com wrote: David F. Skoll a écrit : ADNET Ghislain wrote: strange, resintalling postfix does not remove sendmail completly.. anyway it seems to work that way Please file a bug with the Debian mimedefang maintainer. Installing MIMEDefang should never force the removal of Postfix. i will try to contact him. I run also in another issue. Postfix runs as the user posfix and i do not found any way to configure mimedefang to have a socket that let the postfix user to communicate with it. Is there any parameters i missed for this ? adding some sleep 10; chmod 770 and chgrp postfix to the socket seems...weird to me :) Add postfix user to defang group. -- [plen: Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : a...@onet.eu It is better to never have tried anything than to have tried something and failed. -- motto of jerks, weenies and losers everywhere ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] mimedefang+postfix on debian lenny
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 22:30 +0100, ADNET Ghislain wrote: i will try to contact him. I run also in another issue. Postfix runs as the user posfix and i do not found any way to configure mimedefang to have a socket that let the postfix user to communicate with it. Is there any parameters i missed for this ? adding some sleep 10; chmod 770 and chgrp postfix to the socket seems...weird to me :) Does this solve the problem: sudo adduser postfix defang Richard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] new install
You also need to copy the file redhat/mimedefang-sysconfig from mimedefang source directory to /etc/sysconfig/mimedefang file. Then restart mimedefang service. --Aniruddha Barua. - Original Message From: dhottin...@harrisonburg.k12.va.us dhottin...@harrisonburg.k12.va.us To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:07:09 AM Subject: [Mimedefang] new install Ive installed mimedefang sucessfully. Its installed on a redhat dist. I copied the redhat init script to /etc/init.d and tried to get it to start. I get an error message that says: Starting mimedefang-multiplexor: ERROR: You must not run mimedefang-multiplexor as root. Use the -U option to set a non-root user. [FAILED] Starting mimedefang: ERROR: You must not run mimedefang as root. Use the -U option to set a non-root user. Can someone help me with the syntax of the init file so it will start mimedefang as a user named defang? Ive been reading throught the readme and man pages, but dont seem to be able to wrap my brain around the syntax. thanks, ddh --Dwayne Hottinger Network Administrator Harrisonburg City Public Schools Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in times of moral crisis, preserved their neutrality. -- Dante ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
[Mimedefang] quota alert
Hello, I programmed mimedefang to send a reject to the sender if user's mailbox is full. I'd also like to send a one-line email to the receiver notifying him/her that messages are being rejected due to full box. That way the user knows why they are suddenly not receiving email and can fix the issue without calling support. Since I'm not using the Linux quota system, so the mailbox isn't really full, it's just over the limit that I set. What is the best way to send a message to a user from within mimedefang? I'm planning to use the standard perl sendmail -t from filter_end in mimedefang-filter unless there is something built into mimedefang. Thanks, Cliff ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
[Mimedefang] FW: quota alert
ok, I tried that ... bad idea. Then I tried this in filter_end ... and it ignored the replace_entire_message and simply delivered the message as-is: action_notify_sender(The mailbox for $userName is full. Subject: $afoMsgSubject \n); $entity = From: Support\nSubject: Your mailbox is full!\nYour mailbox is full and rejecting messages\n; replace_entire_message($entity); -Original Message- From: mimedefang-boun...@lists.roaringpenguin.com [mailto:mimedefang-boun...@lists.roaringpenguin.com]on Behalf Of Cliff Hayes Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:33 PM To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Subject: [Mimedefang] quota alert Hello, I programmed mimedefang to send a reject to the sender if user's mailbox is full. I'd also like to send a one-line email to the receiver notifying him/her that messages are being rejected due to full box. That way the user knows why they are suddenly not receiving email and can fix the issue without calling support. Since I'm not using the Linux quota system, so the mailbox isn't really full, it's just over the limit that I set. What is the best way to send a message to a user from within mimedefang? I'm planning to use the standard perl sendmail -t from filter_end in mimedefang-filter unless there is something built into mimedefang. Thanks, Cliff ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
[Mimedefang] FW: quota alert
Got it! Works like a charm! I missed the bit about using Mime::Tools to build the entity. For anyone who wants to build a quota system and notify both the sender and receiver, it's easy... just get a size from the entity and compare it against a hard-coded limit. Then you reject if it's too big using replace_entire_message and action_notify_sender. -Original Message- From: Cliff Hayes [mailto:cha...@afo.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:50 PM To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Subject: FW: [Mimedefang] quota alert ok, I tried that ... bad idea. Then I tried this in filter_end ... and it ignored the replace_entire_message and simply delivered the message as-is: action_notify_sender(The mailbox for $userName is full. Subject: $afoMsgSubject \n); $entity = From: Support\nSubject: Your mailbox is full!\nYour mailbox is full and rejecting messages\n; replace_entire_message($entity); -Original Message- From: mimedefang-boun...@lists.roaringpenguin.com [mailto:mimedefang-boun...@lists.roaringpenguin.com]on Behalf Of Cliff Hayes Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:33 PM To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Subject: [Mimedefang] quota alert Hello, I programmed mimedefang to send a reject to the sender if user's mailbox is full. I'd also like to send a one-line email to the receiver notifying him/her that messages are being rejected due to full box. That way the user knows why they are suddenly not receiving email and can fix the issue without calling support. Since I'm not using the Linux quota system, so the mailbox isn't really full, it's just over the limit that I set. What is the best way to send a message to a user from within mimedefang? I'm planning to use the standard perl sendmail -t from filter_end in mimedefang-filter unless there is something built into mimedefang. Thanks, Cliff ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang