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Re: Odd df reporting (On Apr 3 snapshot, data copied via 3.8snapshot)
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Whyzzi wrote: On 07/04/06, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Whyzzi wrote: Yeah! that is the thing I didn't do! Run fsck against the affected partition! Anyways, as per your questions: I copied the with cp, eg: # cd /mnt/wd1a # cp -R Anime /mnt/wd2d Here are the raw df output from the current snapshot kernel [brought to you by the wonders of OpenSSH]: # df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 18572172 1062820 16580744 6%/ /dev/wd0d123841300 4215514788 197101744 14535%/mnt/wd0d /dev/wd0e123841300 13434788 10421444811%/mnt/wd0e /dev/wd0f212356232 66929816 13480860833%/mnt/wd0f # I had torrent'd the Olive OpenBSD live cd awhile back that was a December? -stable 3.8 (I think), could I use that to run fsck against the affected partition? That would be easier to do than to hookup the 40gig that contained the Dec snapshot (I don't have a copy of either 3.8/3.9 -release available, but I will make one and install it if you want me to). The Olive CD will probably do, although booting a 3.8 kernel from the boot prompt should work as well; just copy the 3.8 kernel to your root as bsd38 and type boot bsd38 at the boot prompt. Cool. Done. I used ftp to grab the 3.8 release kernel from a local mirror. I booted single user mode cause I didn't want my services spewing at me due to kernel differences. Below are the results: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- boot boot /bsd.38 -s /** SNIP -- cause I copied everything by hand **/ Enter pathname or RETURN for shell: Terminal type? vt220 # dh -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on root_device 8.9G 524M 7.9G 6% / # mount /dev/wd0d /mnt/wd0d # df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on root_device 185721271073632 16569932 6%/ /dev/wd0d 123841300 4215514788 197101744 14535%/dev/wd0d =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Interesting. No difference whatsoever. And because I am a (l)user, I am not going to even try to theorize what happened and why. The only thing I will say is that each directory I copied - there were five, all contained literally more than 10Gigabytes (usually more) of useless data each (ok the mp3 collection isn't so useless). This might be reproduce-able by creating 20 or so 500MB files and stuffing them into various subdirectories, totalling 10Gb in one directory. copy that 5 times by giving the same directory a different name. Then take a look at the drive stats via df. Just remember that in my case the destination partition was mounted sync. Is there anything you would like to have done - or can I use the 3.9 snapshot and run the fsck? Cheers, thanks! To be on the safe side, run a 3.8 fsck. Easiest way to do that is copy a 3.8 bsd.rd and boot that. Go to the shell and run fsck -f. -Otto
Re: Odd df reporting (On Apr 3 snapshot, data copied via 3.8snapshot)
On 08/04/06, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Whyzzi wrote: On 07/04/06, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Whyzzi wrote: Yeah! that is the thing I didn't do! Run fsck against the affected partition! Anyways, as per your questions: I copied the with cp, eg: # cd /mnt/wd1a # cp -R Anime /mnt/wd2d Here are the raw df output from the current snapshot kernel [brought to you by the wonders of OpenSSH]: # df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 18572172 1062820 16580744 6%/ /dev/wd0d123841300 4215514788 197101744 14535%/mnt/wd0d /dev/wd0e123841300 13434788 10421444811%/mnt/wd0e /dev/wd0f212356232 66929816 13480860833%/mnt/wd0f # I had torrent'd the Olive OpenBSD live cd awhile back that was a December? -stable 3.8 (I think), could I use that to run fsck against the affected partition? That would be easier to do than to hookup the 40gig that contained the Dec snapshot (I don't have a copy of either 3.8/3.9 -release available, but I will make one and install it if you want me to). The Olive CD will probably do, although booting a 3.8 kernel from the boot prompt should work as well; just copy the 3.8 kernel to your root as bsd38 and type boot bsd38 at the boot prompt. Cool. Done. I used ftp to grab the 3.8 release kernel from a local mirror. I booted single user mode cause I didn't want my services spewing at me due to kernel differences. Below are the results: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- boot boot /bsd.38 -s /** SNIP -- cause I copied everything by hand **/ Enter pathname or RETURN for shell: Terminal type? vt220 # dh -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on root_device 8.9G 524M 7.9G 6% / # mount /dev/wd0d /mnt/wd0d # df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on root_device 185721271073632 16569932 6%/ /dev/wd0d 123841300 4215514788 197101744 14535%/dev/wd0d =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Interesting. No difference whatsoever. And because I am a (l)user, I am not going to even try to theorize what happened and why. The only thing I will say is that each directory I copied - there were five, all contained literally more than 10Gigabytes (usually more) of useless data each (ok the mp3 collection isn't so useless). This might be reproduce-able by creating 20 or so 500MB files and stuffing them into various subdirectories, totalling 10Gb in one directory. copy that 5 times by giving the same directory a different name. Then take a look at the drive stats via df. Just remember that in my case the destination partition was mounted sync. Is there anything you would like to have done - or can I use the 3.9 snapshot and run the fsck? Cheers, thanks! To be on the safe side, run a 3.8 fsck. Easiest way to do that is copy a 3.8 bsd.rd and boot that. Go to the shell and run fsck -f. -Otto Done. Followed http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#bsd.rd part of the FAQ, and ripped the 3.8 bsd.rd from the usa.openbsd.org server. Just for info, the bsd.38.rd reports the same df as the others... Ok, this is strange: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- # fsck /dev/rwd0d ** /dev/rwd0d ** File system is clean; not checking # fsck -f /dev/rwd0d ** /dev/rwd0d ** File system is already clean cannot alloc 4294966928 bytes for inphead # fsck -f /dev/wd0d ** /dev/wd0d ** File system is already clean cannot alloc 4294966928 bytes for inphead # =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I hope that helps some.. If there is anything else you'd like from this box just let me know!
Re: Odd df reporting (On Apr 3 snapshot, data copied via 3.8snapshot)
Oh - and admittedly, one of the directories in the problem partition has over smaller 5000+ files in it: =-=-=-=-=-=-=- # ls -al | wc -l 5131 # # ls -al total 468 drwxrwxr-x 7 name name 512 Apr 4 21:27 . drwxrwxr-x 3 name name 512 Apr 4 21:11 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 name name 88064 Apr 4 21:27 Folder drwxr-xr-x 2 name name 512 Apr 4 21:27 conversations drwxrwxr-x 2 name name 140288 Apr 4 21:25 graphics drwxr-xr-x 4 name name 512 Apr 4 21:27 shorts drwxrwxr-x 8 name name 512 Apr 4 21:23 lists # =-=-=-=-=-=-=- Cheers! On 08/04/06, Whyzzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/04/06, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 7 Apr 2006, Whyzzi wrote: On 07/04/06, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Whyzzi wrote: Yeah! that is the thing I didn't do! Run fsck against the affected partition! Anyways, as per your questions: I copied the with cp, eg: # cd /mnt/wd1a # cp -R Anime /mnt/wd2d Here are the raw df output from the current snapshot kernel [brought to you by the wonders of OpenSSH]: # df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 18572172 1062820 16580744 6%/ /dev/wd0d123841300 4215514788 197101744 14535%/mnt/wd0d /dev/wd0e123841300 13434788 10421444811%/mnt/wd0e /dev/wd0f212356232 66929816 13480860833%/mnt/wd0f # I had torrent'd the Olive OpenBSD live cd awhile back that was a December? -stable 3.8 (I think), could I use that to run fsck against the affected partition? That would be easier to do than to hookup the 40gig that contained the Dec snapshot (I don't have a copy of either 3.8/3.9 -release available, but I will make one and install it if you want me to). The Olive CD will probably do, although booting a 3.8 kernel from the boot prompt should work as well; just copy the 3.8 kernel to your root as bsd38 and type boot bsd38 at the boot prompt. Cool. Done. I used ftp to grab the 3.8 release kernel from a local mirror. I booted single user mode cause I didn't want my services spewing at me due to kernel differences. Below are the results: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- boot boot /bsd.38 -s /** SNIP -- cause I copied everything by hand **/ Enter pathname or RETURN for shell: Terminal type? vt220 # dh -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on root_device 8.9G 524M 7.9G 6% / # mount /dev/wd0d /mnt/wd0d # df Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on root_device 185721271073632 16569932 6%/ /dev/wd0d 123841300 4215514788 197101744 14535%/dev/wd0d =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Interesting. No difference whatsoever. And because I am a (l)user, I am not going to even try to theorize what happened and why. The only thing I will say is that each directory I copied - there were five, all contained literally more than 10Gigabytes (usually more) of useless data each (ok the mp3 collection isn't so useless). This might be reproduce-able by creating 20 or so 500MB files and stuffing them into various subdirectories, totalling 10Gb in one directory. copy that 5 times by giving the same directory a different name. Then take a look at the drive stats via df. Just remember that in my case the destination partition was mounted sync. Is there anything you would like to have done - or can I use the 3.9 snapshot and run the fsck? Cheers, thanks! To be on the safe side, run a 3.8 fsck. Easiest way to do that is copy a 3.8 bsd.rd and boot that. Go to the shell and run fsck -f. -Otto Done. Followed http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#bsd.rd part of the FAQ, and ripped the 3.8 bsd.rd from the usa.openbsd.org server. Just for info, the bsd.38.rd reports the same df as the others... Ok, this is strange: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- # fsck /dev/rwd0d ** /dev/rwd0d ** File system is clean; not checking # fsck -f /dev/rwd0d ** /dev/rwd0d ** File system is already clean cannot alloc 4294966928 bytes for inphead # fsck -f /dev/wd0d ** /dev/wd0d ** File system is already clean cannot alloc 4294966928 bytes for inphead # =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I hope that helps some.. If there is anything else you'd like from this box just let me know! -- I know too much and yet not enough
Re: (OT: PostgreSQL vs MySQL)
On Saturday 08 April 2006 01:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you made a field too short for some of the data which comes along there are two different approaches as to how to handle the situation. First is to identify the problem and roll back so that nothing even got started. This is what real RDMSs apparently do. Say what? A real RDBMS does not roll back transacations when you failed to design your fields properly or when you modify a table. Second is to keep going and minimize the damage as best you can. I dont really understand what youre trying to say. Keep going and minimize damage? How would you do that when your fields are too small? And what has this got to do with PostgreSQl v.s mySql anyway? This is what systems that face the real world are forced to do. Are you saying that real RDBMS' arent used in the real world? There was a crack in this about MySQL being an SQL-looking front end to a file system. Actually very perceptive. You can use the filesytem to move stuff around and get away with it very nicesly. Perhaps that is becuase mySql seems to be very often used as a glorified replacement for flatfiles, especially by webdesigners. As to losing data, I suspect you'd lose a lot more from PostgreSQL than MySQL on a failing hard drive. I seriously doubt that. Larts Hansson
Re: (OT: PostgreSQL vs MySQL)
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 05:16:56PM +0800, Lars Hansson wrote: On Saturday 08 April 2006 01:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you made a field too short for some of the data which comes along there are two different approaches as to how to handle the situation. First is to identify the problem and roll back so that nothing even got started. This is what real RDMSs apparently do. Say what? A real RDBMS does not roll back transacations when you failed to design your fields properly or when you modify a table. A real RDBMS keeps your well designed data consistent and safe, that's the point. Second is to keep going and minimize the damage as best you can. I dont really understand what youre trying to say. Keep going and minimize damage? How would you do that when your fields are too small? And what has this got to do with PostgreSQl v.s mySql anyway? PostgreSQL HAS methods to help your data to be more safe... without using other table types, replication or such workarounds. No flames, just facts. This is what systems that face the real world are forced to do. Are you saying that real RDBMS' arent used in the real world? Superficality vs. thoroughness is what i see in the real world as well as in this case. As already read in other posts to this thread there are reasons for superficality... even if i'm estimating it more as redundant work, but that's really up to the people with the actual problem/solution. I like to have a lot of work ONCE in a while without the need to care about it for the next few decades. There was a crack in this about MySQL being an SQL-looking front end to a file system. Actually very perceptive. You can use the filesytem to move stuff around and get away with it very nicesly. Perhaps that is becuase mySql seems to be very often used as a glorified replacement for flatfiles, especially by webdesigners. Doh... do we now talk about those who don't even known what they need a SQL frontend for? Thanks... out of (my) context ;-) As to losing data, I suspect you'd lose a lot more from PostgreSQL than MySQL on a failing hard drive. I seriously doubt that. But i second that. Assuming one's using referetial integrity, definitely! More constistent data is more valuable data! With kind regards Simon
OpenBSD use lists instead of DB functions in BGPd for example.
Just for my person education and understanding, BGPd for example use the lists functions from the system instead of any of the various DB functions. Obviously the lists functions are kept in RAM, so this is definitely much faster, a lots, but when is it that one would switch to DB functions instead of lists. What kind of rules of thumb would one use to select one over the other? I guess is the routing table were 10 millions routers, it may simply doesn't make any sense as the memory might well not be there to support it? What is the situation where it makes sense to use the built in DB functions and witch one to elect using instead of the lists? I am trying to understand when it makes sense to select what in the design time. My situation now is about 350K records and might grow to may be 500K. But technically, in the maximum limits, I can't see a case where the operation would be so big as to use that much, but it's always possible to reach 500 millions records, but I can't imagine that possible really. I was and am thinking to use SQL instead as it make sense, but in practice, 300K records should really covers it all. So, what's logical to use here you think? If BGPd had to carry let say, 10 millions routers, would the design have been the same for the selection of lists as it is now? What would have make it different and if so, the use of the native DB function would have been selected, or would SQL database be preferred then? The response time needs to be less the .75 second. Thanks for advise and logic selection process. Daniel
OT: FAX to Email via SIP in VoIP standard documentations request.
May be someone may have some URL that they could share with me. I am looking and researching good documentations for building daemons to actually process G711 VoIP calls from FAX group 3 or others to a device to be built to convert and extract the FAX data and convert it to TIFF format, or other to finally be sent via emails. I got some data for building CNAM server for caller ID and it's working very well so far and now in production, but I also need to built one for FAX to Email processing and I am hitting the walls in getting proper documentations on the standard and process, etc. Anyone actually have good docs they could share would be very appreciated. The process is very simple in principal anyway. PSTN - Cisco 5350 SIP Gateway - SIP network server for call processing - FAX recipient. The FAX recipient is an OpenBSD server listening on SIP port like any standard SIP phones that is seen as a standard SIP device and after the communications establish will process and extract the data part from the G711 connection to get the FAX part out of it and then convert it to a standard format like TIFF of something else to then be email via standard mail server to the final users that can get their email that way using standard tools. May be the TIFF could also be converted to PDF or anything really after the data is extracted, it's easy to convert it to something else. Sorry for the off topic question, I am having problem finding good documentations on the subject to build this efficiently and properly. There is data available, but may be not as good as I would need it to be. Thanks for your time is you have anything available or came across something interesting to read by chance. Regards, Daniel
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Re: (OT: PostgreSQL vs MySQL)
Josh Tolley wrote: On 4/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to losing data, I suspect you'd lose a lot more from PostgreSQL than MySQL on a failing hard drive. Any particular reason for that suspicion? I ask out of genuine interest, and I promise I don't want to start a flame war. -Josh It has to do with how much information other than that essential to the data itself, and how sensitive a system would be to corruption of that data. Any provision so that readers do not interfere with writers requires a vastly more complicated structure which must be much more sensitive to errors than something that does not exist. However, if there is redundancy, and you can take advantage of that redundancy, the odds shift enormously. Taking advantage is non-trivial maybe the best term.
[OT] This happens if you're using BLOBs
Hi, yet another example for what happens when people use BLOBs (it's *so* convenient): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/UPDATING?rev=1.307content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup Ciao, Kili
Re: strange lockup problem with firefox + dual head display
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 05:02:42PM -0400, Blair Sadewitz wrote: Also, I should add that I have been using firefox in a single-head setup for a while now and it has yet to crash. Thus, I think it's safe to say that the freezing does correlate with my using a dual-headed configuration. Since nobody else responded, here goes nothing... ISTR there being some problems with certain graphics libraries and dual-headed configuration - Firefox uses GTK+, IIRC, and the ports dependencies support this. You could try to narrow down the problem by using other GTK+-based applications, especially some that use a lot of graphics; if those show the same problem, but stuff that doesn't use GTK+ doesn't (for instance, plain xterm but also Qt-based apps; most of KDE, that is), it's likely to be a GTK+ problem. If this is the case, you could try upgrading GTK+ (from -current, for instance) to see if the problem goes away (though that is not supported), and/or file a bug report. It might also be Firefox-specific, in which case upgrading to -current might help as well. In either case, do report back! This is something that could bear a little debugging. Joachim
Nokia PCMCIA Data Card 2.0 support? (RPM-1Q)
Hello,I buy a nokia pcmcia data card(rpm-1q).but I have not its drivers. Can you help me?Send the drivers to me.Thanks a lot. my e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- awjzd 2006-04-09
Re: dmesg - MacBook Pro
Philip S. Schulz wrote: on 07.04.2006 23:25 Uhr steven n fettig said the following: [...] docs, donations, etc...) Anyway, when I boot from either the 3.8 i386 CD or the 3.9-current boot ISO/CD, it hangs at one of the USB probes (I can't give the dmesg, though, cause I'm in a hurry). So, I guess the Are you booting w/ the new Firmware release (the one that allows Windows XP to boot) or are you still using the old one? New firmware release (using http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookproearly2006firmwareupdate10.html). I have WinXP installed and running (as well as Windows can run...) on the separate partition you are able to create via the Boot Camp util. steve fettig
Re: IO fencing question
-Original Message- From: Jon Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:25 PM To: Barry, Christopher Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: IO fencing question On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:26:45PM -0400, Barry, Christopher wrote: Thanks much for your answers. By 'soft', I mean a controlled reboot/shutdown where the power remains on even though the OS has obviously stopped running. I have not experienced any actual failures of anything, so I do not the outcome of that. Induced 'Hard' failure (e.g. pulling the plug) works perfectly. The more I look at it, and think about it, I'm guessing the problem is more related to the redundant fibre ports on the 350-24T switch, actually holding onto information about the directly connect interface, and stubbornly sticking to it if it detects any kind of signal whatsoever. I experienced this same sort of weirdness when setting up a pair of redundant routers. The two upstreams, which I had no control over, ran OSPF. If I powered off the machine, all was well. If I simply halted the machine, or there was power to it at all, their OSPF daemon would detect a link and continue to route in the direction of our downed router. The problem, in the end, was that the Dell 1850s primary onboard ethernet controller will exhibit link when there is power to the board. The secondary, and any PCI/PCI-X cards that we added on afterward, did not exhibit this behavior. -jon Thanks everyone for your ideas on this. As it turns out, the issue is indeed the switch's redundant fiber port not releasing. As soon as power hits the server's motherboard, a link is present on the switch - even though all of my fiber NICs are in PCI slots. The only way I can reliably failover the switch port is to remove power completely from the router. To do this, I'm thinking a combination of: http://freshmeat.net/projects/powerswitch/ and: http://www.servertech.com/products/product.aspx?GroupID=1ProductID=12# Of course the powerswitch script will need a bit of hacking, and I'll need to wrap the whole deal in a looping testing script, looking for when stge0 on the backup becomes master. Then I'm thinking of attempting a 'ssh master -c halt -p', waiting a certain amount of seconds, and then switching off the power to the plug. Does that sound like a reasonable approach? Anyone already done this and have some lessons for me? Thanks, -C
problem building xine-lib on 3.8
I am now trying to build xine to be able to display mjpeg files on OpenBSD. I get the following error attempting to build xine-lib on OpenBSD 3.8: gmake[3]: Entering directory `/home/daf/Xine/xine-lib-1.1.1/src/xine-utils' if /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../i nclude -I../../include -I../../src -I../../src/xine-engine -I../../src/xine-engine -I../../src/xine-ut ils -I../../intl -I../../intl -I../../src/input -I../../src/input -I../../lib -I/usr/X11R6/include-mcpu=i386 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -falign-functions=4 -falign-loops=4 -falign-jumps=4 -mprefe rred-stack-boundary=2 -fexpensive-optimizations -fschedule-insns2 -fno-strict-aliasing -ffast-math -fn o-inline-functions -Wall -Wnested-externs -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wmiss ing-prototypes -DNDEBUG -D_REENTRANT -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DXINE_COMPILE -MT cpu_accel.lo -MD -MP-MF .deps/cpu_accel.Tpo -c -o cpu_accel.lo cpu_accel.c; \ then mv -f .deps/cpu_accel.Tpo .deps/cpu_accel.Plo; else rm -f .deps/cpu_accel.Tpo; exit 1; fi gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../include -I../../include -I../../src -I../../src/x ine-engine -I../../src/xine-engine -I../../src/xine-utils -I../../intl -I../../intl -I../../src/input -I../../src/input -I../../lib -I/usr/X11R6/include -mcpu=i386 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -falign-f unctions=4 -falign-loops=4 -falign-jumps=4 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fexpensive-optimizations -fsc hedule-insns2 -fno-strict-aliasing -ffast-math -fno-inline-functions -Wall -Wnested-externs -Wcast-ali gn -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -DNDEBUG -D_REENTRANT -D_FILE_OFFSET_ BITS=64 -DXINE_COMPILE -MT cpu_accel.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/cpu_accel.Tpo -c cpu_accel.c -fPIC -DPIC -o.libs/cpu_accel.o In file included from xineutils.h:64, from cpu_accel.c:41: /usr/include/malloc.h:4:2: warning: #warning malloc.h is obsolete, use stdlib.h cpu_accel.c: In function `arch_accel': cpu_accel.c:109: error: can't find a register in class `BREG' while reloading `asm' cpu_accel.c:117: error: can't find a register in class `BREG' while reloading `asm' cpu_accel.c:133: error: can't find a register in class `BREG' while reloading `asm' cpu_accel.c:135: error: can't find a register in class `BREG' while reloading `asm' gmake[3]: *** [cpu_accel.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/home/daf/Xine/xine-lib-1.1.1/src/xine-utils' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/daf/Xine/xine-lib-1.1.1/src' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daf/Xine/xine-lib-1.1.1' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 === I don't see any reference to 'BREG' in the source code. google 'xibe-lib breg openbsd' returns indications of a problem with fPIC, but the messages are from 2003. Can this be made to work with 3.8 or 3.9? Thanks, Dave Feustel -- Lose, v., experience a loss, get rid of, lose the weight Loose, adj., not tight, let go, free, loose clothing
Re: (OT: PostgreSQL vs MySQL)
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 05:53:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 05:16:56PM +0800, Lars Hansson wrote: On Saturday 08 April 2006 01:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you made a field too short for some of the data which comes along there are two different approaches as to how to handle the situation. First is to identify the problem and roll back so that nothing even got started. This is what real RDMSs apparently do. Say what? A real RDBMS does not roll back transacations when you failed to design your fields properly or when you modify a table. A real RDBMS keeps your well designed data consistent and safe, that's the point. That looks like a completely accurate statement. (But what about all your data BEFORE it has been well designed etc?) The question then should be ``Do i need the data in the state from before and shouldn't be the tape backups enough?'' ;-) Second is to keep going and minimize the damage as best you can. I dont really understand what youre trying to say. Keep going and minimize damage? How would you do that when your fields are too small? And what has this got to do with PostgreSQl v.s mySql anyway? PostgreSQL HAS methods to help your data to be more safe... without using other table types, replication or such workarounds. No flames, just facts. This is what systems that face the real world are forced to do. Are you saying that real RDBMS' arent used in the real world? Superficality vs. thoroughness is what i see in the real world as well as in this case. As already read in other posts to this thread there are reasons for superficality... even if i'm estimating it more as redundant work, but that's really up to the people with the actual problem/solution. I like to have a lot of work ONCE in a while without the need to care about it for the next few decades. There was a crack in this about MySQL being an SQL-looking front end to a file system. Actually very perceptive. You can use the filesytem to move stuff around and get away with it very nicesly. Perhaps that is becuase mySql seems to be very often used as a glorified replacement for flatfiles, especially by webdesigners. Doh... do we now talk about those who don't even known what they need a SQL frontend for? Thanks... out of (my) context ;-) As to losing data, I suspect you'd lose a lot more from PostgreSQL than MySQL on a failing hard drive. I seriously doubt that. But i second that. Assuming one's using referetial integrity, definitely! More constistent data is more valuable data! Out of curiousity, how does referential integrity guard against damaged disks? What does the system do when you lose the things that the system guarantees have to be there? I meant the actual lose of value... trying to imply that worked off data is worth a backup ;-) Just conclusions from a few years experience with both database systems. Regards Simon
Re: Motion Jpeg Video on OpenBSD
followup: Jacob Meuser suggested using ffplay from the ffmjpeg package. I installed ffmjpeg-20050413.tgz from the 3.8 package collection and ffplay does in fact play video from my ethernet-connected video camera. Dave Feustel
Re: Belkin wireless adapter
On 08/04/06, tony sarendal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/04/06, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 02:07:54AM +0100, pedro la peu wrote: The 0x705c has a ZyDAS ZD1211 chipset in it, the 0x7050 is Ralink. A Ralink based F5D7050 can be unambiguously identified via it's FCC ID. It will be printed on the device (and IIRC the box). FCC ID K7SF5D7050A is an RT25xx based device. ural0: Belkin Belkin 54g USB Network Adapter, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2 ural0: MAC/BBP RT2571 (rev 0x03), RF RT2526, address 00:11:50:nn:nn:nn https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode= ExhibitsRequestTimeout=500calledFromFrame=Napplication_id=228345fcc_id='K 7SF5D7050A ' Right, RT2571 is the second generation USB Ralink wireless. It is mostly a total redesign like the rt2600 was for PCI/CardBus. It is quite similiar to the rt2600 in terms of register layout, efforts are underway to support them but are not yet complete. I seem to have gotten a FCC ID K7SF5D7050B. According to the pictures it has RT2571F and RT2526L in it. (Good link, Pedro) ugen0 at uhub3 port 1 ugen0: Belkin Belkin 54g USB Network Adapter, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2 port 1 addr 2: high speed, power 300 mA, config 1, Belkin 54g USB Network Adapter(0x705a), Belkin(0x050d), rev 0.01 Lets see if it works by just updating usbdevs and usb/if_ral.c No such luck. ural0 at uhub3 port 1 ural0: Belkin Belkin 54g USB Network Adapter, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2 ural0: MAC/BBP RT2573 (rev 0x00), RF unknown, address 00:11:50:nn:nn:nn Time for a beer. -- Tony Sarendal - [EMAIL PROTECTED] IP/Unix -= The scorpion replied, I couldn't help it, it's my nature =-
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Re: [OT] This happens if you're using BLOBs
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 02:52:01PM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote: Hi, yet another example for what happens when people use BLOBs (it's *so* convenient): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/UPDATING?rev=1.307content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup either i'm missing something, or it's unfortunate they hadn't noticed sooner: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-portsm=107500817503869w=2 -- jared [ openbsd 3.9-current GENERIC ( mar 15 ) // i386 ]
