Re: Linksys support... hmm

2006-05-01 Thread Kian Mohageri
Sorry - never mind.  I cracked open my case after I got home to verify, 
and I'm using a v4.  v5 must be really new then, because I bought this 
just a few weeks ago.


Kian

Kian Mohageri wrote:

Maybe someone on the mailing list can provide me with an answer to:
1. Can v5 af the card be used with the ral driver?



Yes, I used it to create an access point on 3.8-stable.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dmesg|grep ral0
ral0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 Ralink RT2560 rev 0x01: irq 11, address
00:16:b6:57:1e:59
ral0: MAC/BBP RT2560 (rev 0x04), RF RT2525

Hope that helps.



--
Kian Mohageri
ResTek, Western Washington University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



OpenBSD 3.9 Installation onto a Nokia IP330

2006-05-01 Thread NetNeanderthal

For those of you who are waiting on me to finish testing for OpenBSD
3.9 on the Nokia IP330 firewalls, it appears that the dirty hack that
worked on 3.8 works on 3.9 as well.  The main deterrent is that
OpenBSD can't locate a serial port to use as its console, thus giving
the dreaded 'entry point at 0x100120' message.  This actually isn't an
error, as it does see the keyboard, it's just not something that's
physically connected on the IP330.  These devices aren't generally
powerful.  I've personally run across two variants in the wild.  The
first has a 266MHz AMD K6-2 CPU with 64MB of RAM and an 8GB Western
Digital hard drive.  The second has a 400MHz AMD K6-2 CPU with 256MB
of RAM and a 20GB Western Digital hard drive.  There are a few cPCI
cards for them and I've even gotten some others that didn't come with
the devices to work, including a 4-port Znyx ZX414 (for a grand total
of 7 interfaces).  I'm not sure if you can replace the CPU or not, but
there is a silkscreened multiplier/clock setting on the mainboard and
it does look to be a Socket7 interface with a standard HSF/clip.  It
takes standard PC100, CL2, ECC SDRAM (I'm unsure of the maximum) and
has a standard IDE interface with a single molex connector.  There are
3 fxp(4) interfaces by default, mine have an additional 2 dc(4)
interfaces on a single modular cPCI card.  (Please note that the
OpenBSD fxp(4) driver will not recognize the original MAC addresses of
the controllers as they are not stored in a standard location -- you
may wish to save these prior to wiping CheckPoint IPSO from the drive!
This might be fixable by making some adjustments to
/usr/src/sys/dev/ic/fxp.c or fxpreg.h, but then again, it's late and I
could be way off my rocker.)  There are 2 DB9 male serial ports
(ns16550a) on the front.  It uses an Award BIOS and has quite a few
settings you can manipulate -- for most practical purposes, it seems
to be simply a customized x86 machine.  The power supply does not have
a cover, so be careful if you get to the point where you're poking
around -- use some common sense when working with 120/240 VAC, don't
do anything stupid.

Here is a brief synopsis of what needs to be done to get it running.

- Order your OpenBSD 3.9 CD (http://www.openbsd.org/items.html#39)
- Unseat the chassis cover by removing 24 phillips-head screws and
pulling forward slightly, then upwards
- Pull the hard drive by removing 4 phillips-head screws from
underneath the chassis, the molex connector and an IDE connector
- Install the hard drive into a surrogate PC
- Install OpenBSD as you normally would to the drive, be sure to set
your console to com0 when asked, 8N1 9600bps (or hack /etc/boot.conf
and /etc/ttys later)
- When the install finishes, do not reboot yet!
- Chroot to the OpenBSD installation (/mnt/usr/sbin/chroot /mnt)
- Mount the OpenBSD CD-ROM (mount /dev/cd0a /mnt)
- Untar/gzip the kernel sources (tar -zxvf /mnt/sys.tar.gz -C /usr/src/)
- Edit /sys/arch/i386/stand/libsa/bioscons.c (export term=vt100; vi
/sys/arch/i386/stand/libsa/bioscons.c)
 Go to line 105 and apply the following patch (manually or using the
following diff)

---8---
105,106c105
   n = 9;
   n = 7;
---

  n = 2; /* We know there are two com ports -- force it */

---8---

- Recompile/reinstall the bootblocks
(http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#InstBoot)
 # cd /sys/arch/i386/stand/
 # make  make install
 # cd /usr/mdec; cp ./boot /boot
 # ./installboot /boot biosboot wd0 (or whatever device your hard disk is)

- Ensure that your console is set for com0
(http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SerCon)
 # /etc/ttys:tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600   vt100   on  secure
 # /etc/boot.conf:set tty com0
- Halt the surrogate PC
- Replace the drive into the IP330 and reconnect the molex and IDE
connectors, don't forget to fasten it from below using the screws as
well
- Replace the chassis and tighten the screws
- Connect your console cable at 9600bps, 8N1 and power up

I've attached a dmesg and a quick openssl speed -evp test on
aes-256-cbc for the curious.

OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar  2 02:26:48 MST 2006
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (AuthenticAMD 586-class) 399 MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,PGE,MMX
real mem  = 268017664 (261736K)
avail mem = 237568000 (232000K)
using 3297 buffers containing 13504512 bytes (13188K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(6e) BIOS, date 10/27/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfaa20
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xae9c
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfd3c0/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11 12
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (Intel 82371SB ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82439TX System rev 0x01
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA rev 0x02
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 Intel 

Re: 3.9 Release Available

2006-05-01 Thread Bryan Allen

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On May 1, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Bob Beck wrote:

We are pleased to announce the official release of OpenBSD 3.9.


Got my CDs last week, upgraded a few systems by disc; no problems  
(expected behavior).


And

# pkg_add -ui -F update -F updatedepends

is pure beauty. Much thanks to everyone.
- --
Bryan Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://bda.mirrorshades.net/

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Re: 3.9 Release Available

2006-05-01 Thread Nigel J. Taylor
Some minor things I noticed, the following is still at 3.8

http://www.openbsd.org/pkg-stable.html

http://www.openbsd.org/errata38.html
should link to a http://www.openbsd.org/pkg-stable38.html, rather than
the above.

As an example in pkg-stable.html the package clamav-0.88.1.tgz only
exists for 3.7, 3.8 and current. 3.9 only has clamav-0.88.tgz available.

There appears to be an issue here also with the CVS ports tree, as
clamav has been updated to 0.88.1 for 3.7, 3.8 stable and current is now
at 0.88.2, while 3.9 stable has been left at version 0.88.

gnupg also appears to have been left behind at version 1.4.2.1 for 3.9
in CVS while 3.8 moved on to 1.4.2.2 and current is at 1.4.3.

Both these are in the ports/security CVS tree.


Regards

Nigel

Bob Beck wrote:
 
 May 1, 2006.
 
 We are pleased to announce the official release of OpenBSD 3.9.
 This is our 19th release on CD-ROM (and 18th via FTP).  We remain
 proud of OpenBSD's record of eight years with only a single remote
 hole in the default install.  As in our previous releases, 3.9
 provides significant improvements, including new features, in nearly
 all areas of the system:
 
 - Improved hardware support, including:
 o Some G5-based Apple Macintosh machines, including W^X support (currently
   restricted to 32-bit mode).
 o Many more audio drivers in the OpenBSD/macppc port.
 o Support for many system sensors (temperature, voltage, fan speed) via
   the following subsystems:
   o Dell's Embedded Server Management (esm)
   o Intelligent Platform Management Interface (ipmi)
   o I2C/SMBus sensor subsystems found on most motherboards (iic) 
 o Touchpad on recent Apple laptops (tpms).
 o nfe, a binary blob free driver for the NVIDIA nForce Ethernet interface.
 o Opteron systems now have all their PCI buses detected.
 o CardBus and PCMCIA support on OpenBSD/amd64.
 o ixgb, Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet.
 o Support for new Intel i82571, i82572 and i82573 PCI Express based 
 devices
   in the em(4) driver.
 o Support for new Broadcom BCM5714, BCM5715 and BCM5903M based devices in
   the bge(4) driver.
 o Support for new Ralink RT2501 and RT2600 based devices in ral.
 o Support for ASIX AX88178 Gigabit and AX88772 10/100 based devices
 in axe(4).
 o Support for devices incorporating GCT RF transceivers in rtw.
 o Zaurus remote control (zrc) support.
 o Initial Sound Blaster Audigy support in the emu(4) driver.
 o The Level 1 LXT1001 Gigabit driver has been fixed and now works 
 (lge(4)).
 o More HP Smart ARRAY controllers recognized by the ciss(4) driver.
 o Support the Intel i915 AGP.
 o Support for both older and newer IDE and SATA controllers in the
   pciide(4) driver, including:
   o ATI's IXP 200/300/400 IDE controllers
   o Broadcom's ServerWorks HT-1000 IDE controller
   o a few older Intel PIIX IDE controllers
   o Broadcom's ServerWorks K2 and HT-1000 SATA controllers
   o VIA's VT6410 and VT8251 SATA controllers
   o some newer NVIDIA SATA controllers 
 o Added IBSS support to the iwi(4) driver.
 o Added bus_dma support to the de(4) and san(4) drivers.
 o A lot of fixes and improvements to the uaudio(4) audio driver.
 o Support for the SMC SMC91C1xx Ethernet chips in the sm(4) driver as well
   as MII support.
 o New adb(4) and framebuffer (macfb(4)) drivers on OpenBSD/mac68k, plus
   switch to wscons(4). 
 
 - New tools:
 o ftp-proxy(8) has been rewritten, and a tftp version, tftp-proxy,
   has been added.
 o sdiff(1), a side-by-side file comparison tool, rewritten by us.
 o getent(1), a tool to get entries from the administrative databases.
 
 - New functionality:
 o ancontrol functionality has been completely merged into ifconfig.
 o apmd(8) can be used to increase or decrease CPU speed automatically,
   depending on CPU usage and, if supported, battery status.
 o nc(1) now supports HTTP Proxy authentication, making it very useful as
   a ssh ProxyCommand.
 o Userland ppp(8) has IPv6 support.
 o A number of fixes and new functionality for trunk(4):
 o New active/passive failover mode
 o Fixed multicast support, for carp(4) and pfsync(4) over trunk
   interfaces.
 o Interface capabilities depending on the trunk ports, for
   full-size vlan(4) MTUs. 
 o Improved functionality for ipsecctl(8).
 o Added multicast routing to GENERIC. It is now possible to enable
   multicast routing in the kernel with the
   sysctl(8) option net.inet.ip.mforwarding=1.
 o It is now possible to set a default vlan(4) priority via ifconfig(8).
 
 - Assorted improvements and code cleanup:
 o libpcap has been updated with most of tcpdump.org's libpcap-0.9.4 API,
   without the clutter.
   

Re: PCMCIA on a laptop with a Insyde Software MobilePRO BIOS not working

2006-05-01 Thread Henrik Borgh

On 5/1/06, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Try 3.9, the Intel specific interrupt quirks now match on your
chipset unlike 3.8.


I have tried varoius snapshot-versions of 3.9 (latest OpenBSD
3.9-current (GENERIC) #720: Thu Apr 27 21:45:15 MDT 2006) and are
downloading the official 3.9 release as we speak.

The dmesg on http://bsdbandit.dk/TM2400-dmesg.boot.txt from this
laptop, is based on the OpenBSD 3.9-current (GENERIC) #700: Wed Apr
19 19:35:53 MDT 2006  snapshot.

--
Regards
Henrik



State timeouts

2006-05-01 Thread Dave Harrison
Hi all,

I'm looking at the set optimization policies for PF, and while it's clear that
there are varying levels of aggression towards expiring state entries, I can't
find exact numbers of what those levels represent.

I assume they're based on a time and/or traffic metric ??

My current policy is just the default (ie. normal), but I have one particular
system that wants to do an 60 second heartbeat, which I suspect is being killed
by the state expiry purges.

Is there somewhere that specifies the definition (or metric) on which the expiry
occurs ?? (I can't find it in either the FAQ or the man pages for pf / pf.conf /
pfctl)

Cheers
Dave



nfs mount in openvpn tunnel

2006-05-01 Thread OS rider
Hi , my name is takesima , a japanese .
i succeed in access avi file in remote PC with nfs mount in openvpn tunnel .

the chart is next .

gentoo(192.168.1.88)--intra net--(192.168.1.50)openbsd=internet===
==openbsd(192.168.72.50)--intra net--(192.168.72.66)gentoo

(192.168.72.66)gentoo is remote PC .
i see and here avi file in (192.168.72.66)gentoo on
gentoo(192.168.1.88) .

the following is my methods .

1)(192.168.72.66)gentoo is nfs server .
cat /etc/exports
/video/Tu/ 192.168.1.88/255.255.255.255(rw,sync,no_root_squash)
/video/Tu/ 10.4.0.2/255.255.255.255(rw,sync,no_root_squash)
and
no firewall


2)(192.168.1.50)openbsd is openvpn server and this has adress 10.4.0.1 of 
openvpn .
pf filter is next
pass in on $ext_if proto udp from okou-add/32 to any port { 1194 } keep
state
pass in quick on tun0 all
pass out quick on tun0 all
(in this place , okou-add is internet address of (192.168.1.50)openbsd )

3)openbsd(192.168.72.50) is openvpn client and this has adress 10.4.0.2 of 
openvpn .
pass in quick on tun0 all
pass out quick on tun0 all


4)gentoo(192.168.1.88) is nfs client .
mount -t nfs 192.168.72.66:/video/Tu /NFS
and
mplayer /NFS/abc.avi, then i see and here this movie .

i wonder what ports is need on (192.168.72.66)gentoo .
because the above is too fragile in the point of security .

The details is written in http://nakajin.dyndns.org/pikara.html .
i am sorry for my poor english .



Re: 3.9 Release Available

2006-05-01 Thread Dunceor
On 5/1/06, Mats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 03:36:27AM -0300, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote:
  Hrraaayyy!!
  Man, I've preordered my CDs about 2 weeks ago, and they haven't
  arrived yet... (bought from www.temporeal.com.br Brazil)
  Seems like I'll use ftp instead :P Can't wait anymore.

 You are lucky man. I live in Sweden (9 meg citizens and 500k
 dogs) and I only have _one_ place to buy from and they have no
 announce about them yet. Somewhere in the end of may maybe...:-(
 OK, I have installed over internet, but I want to read the
 thrilling story also and decorate the appartment with stickers.

 /Regs from Sweden



Why not just order from Wim on the official webpage? Just as easy and
couldn't be much difference in price/postage and then you would have gotten
them weeks ago.



Re: pf firewall question

2006-05-01 Thread Murali Raju

On 4/30/06, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2006/04/30 06:34, S t i n g r a y wrote:
 Now what i want to know , maybe is O T in this list
 but what is the diffrence , i mean pf in openBSD is
 refered to as a firewall for home or small offices ?
 why is that , i mean what is the criteria of an
 enterprise firewall what is the diffrence between pf 
 MS ISA / cisco pix or checkpoint ?
 performance ? stability or features ?

marketing and a manager-friendly gui.



To add more...I've used PF/CARP to deploy perimeter defense for
companies with users ranging from 1000+ to 4000+. Does that tell you
something?

Please don't fall into the trap of marketing crap like Application
Layer Checks,  Deep Packet Inspection, etc. Nothing more than
proxies with too many false positives. Again, you can check if the
protocol abides by RFCs with enormous expense, but what use is it when
the embedded exploit code is not fully checked within the payload?
(check the archives why PF does not do this).

PF is powerful, efficient, and keeps it simple...you are better off
handling Application Layer checks closer to the crappy application
that is full of bugs..

_Raju

--
May the packets be with you.



Re: (PC video card memory aperture !=0) =OS Rootability?

2006-05-01 Thread Dave Feustel
Below is a comment about X-Windows security sent to me 
by a person with a lot of experience in computer security:
===
Dave,

X-Windows has been known to be insecure for some time. That is to
say it can be hacked.

Now you could get the code and change the sockets that are used or
require authentication of every communication. But this would slow it down.
You might also have virtual x-windows where you use 127.0.0.x as the 
endpoint and refuse to allow non-local connections.

Would implementing virtual x-windows as this person describes above
solve the X-Windows security problem on OpenBSD?

Thanks
Dave Feustel



Re: 3.9 Release Available

2006-05-01 Thread sebastian . rother
As pointed out on Slashdot somebody also provides Torrents wich may reduce
the load of the Servers.

The files can be found here:

http://openbsd.somedomain.net/


Kind regards,
Sebastian



packages for 3.9 not published?

2006-05-01 Thread Dag Richards

And the whining continues 



Re: (PC video card memory aperture !=0) =OS Rootability?

2006-05-01 Thread Jason Dixon

On May 1, 2006, at 9:57 AM, Dave Feustel wrote:


Below is a comment about X-Windows security sent to me
by a person with a lot of experience in computer security:
===
Dave,

X-Windows has been known to be insecure for some time. That is to
say it can be hacked.

Now you could get the code and change the sockets that are used or
require authentication of every communication. But this would slow  
it down.

You might also have virtual x-windows where you use 127.0.0.x as the
endpoint and refuse to allow non-local connections.

Would implementing virtual x-windows as this person describes above
solve the X-Windows security problem on OpenBSD?


Why don't you try it and let us all know?  Quit waiting on someone  
else to test your weekly exploits.


--
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net



Disabling Antialias no more works in 3.9

2006-05-01 Thread Federico Giannici
I use KDE with AntiAlias enabled, but disabled for font size from 7 to 
17, and for specific application (e.g FireFox) preceding the application 
name with env GDK_USE_XFT=0.


After I upgraded my i386 from 3.8 to 3.9 (my CDs arrived just one day 
before the official date), none of the two methods work any more: if 
antialias is enabled then it is used in every single case!


Is there something wrong in my configuration, or somebody else have the 
same problem?


How can I make at least one of the two methods work again?


Thanks.

--
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__
   |-  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   |ederico Giannici  http://www.neomedia.it

   Presidente del CDA - Neomedia S.r.l.
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Re: PCMCIA on a laptop with a Insyde Software MobilePRO BIOS not working

2006-05-01 Thread Henrik Borgh

On 5/1/06, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]


The snapshots are quite a bit past 3.9 now.


Yes i would imagine so.


Are you running the latest BIOS provided by the vendor?


Of course.

--
Regards
Henrik



Re: Using OpenBSD article in 'The Jem Report'

2006-05-01 Thread Kurt Miller
On Sunday 30 April 2006 10:56 pm, Dave Feustel wrote:
 This is a very well written article for new users of OpenBSD: 
 
 http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/34/1/
 
 One question I have: Is the description in the article of what's 
 required to install Java on OpenBSD correct?

The only thing that looked incorrect to me was the lack
of a jre package. The port builds two packages; one for
the jdk and one for the jre. You can install the jre
using pkg_add or SUBPACKAGE=-jre make install.

-Kurt



Re: packages for 3.9 not published?

2006-05-01 Thread Dag Richards

David Terrell wrote:

On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 07:17:34AM -0700, Dag Richards wrote:

And the whining continues 


What are you talking about?  I see 'em on the mirrors.


Well  I guess I am talking abou the 404 I get by going here

http://www.openbsd.org/3.9_packages/

But oh yeah ya dope, _MIRRORS_ smart orgs use them to reduce the load on 
the important central servers.




Re: Using OpenBSD article in 'The Jem Report'

2006-05-01 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 01 May 2006 10:48, Kurt Miller wrote:
 On Sunday 30 April 2006 10:56 pm, Dave Feustel wrote:
  This is a very well written article for new users of OpenBSD: 
  
  http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/34/1/
  
  One question I have: Is the description in the article of what's 
  required to install Java on OpenBSD correct?
 
 The only thing that looked incorrect to me was the lack
 of a jre package. The port builds two packages; one for
 the jdk and one for the jre. You can install the jre
 using pkg_add or SUBPACKAGE=-jre make install.
 
 -Kurt

Thanks for the tip. 

Dave 

-- 
Lose, v., experience a loss, get rid of, lose the weight
Loose, adj., not tight, let go, free, loose clothing



using queues to limit bandwidth

2006-05-01 Thread Chris Bullock
Can queues be used to queue overall bandwidth?  We have a project where we
will be sharing an Internet connection with another company, we will have an
IP and they will have an IP each company providing their own firewall.  I
understand that queuing is able to queue based on protocol, etc on the same
box but lets say there is a T1 shared between the companies, The company
tells us, you can have one of our IP addresses but you can only use 100k of
our bandwidth, can pf do this?  I guess this is more bandwitdh throttling
more so than queuing.
TIA,
Chris



Re: using queues to limit bandwidth

2006-05-01 Thread Peter Blair

ALTQ Should do the trick:

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/queueing.html

On 5/1/06, Chris Bullock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can queues be used to queue overall bandwidth?  We have a project where we
will be sharing an Internet connection with another company, we will have an
IP and they will have an IP each company providing their own firewall.  I
understand that queuing is able to queue based on protocol, etc on the same
box but lets say there is a T1 shared between the companies, The company
tells us, you can have one of our IP addresses but you can only use 100k of
our bandwidth, can pf do this?  I guess this is more bandwitdh throttling
more so than queuing.
TIA,
Chris




Re: [UPDATE] php5 to version 5.1.2 (IMPORTANT)

2006-05-01 Thread Robert Nagy
Hi.

I haven't recieved a single test report, but I still get
letters about asking for an update. How's that?
This tarball also includes mysqli, fastcgi and hardened php support:
http://gi.unideb.hu/~robert/php.tar.gz

On (28/04/06 01:59), Robert Nagy wrote:
 Hi.
 
 Finally after fighting with pear I've managed to create a working update
 for the php5 port.
 The PHP guys have changed the installation method of pear to use some crappy
 PHP_Archive. With this move they broke the installation of pear on serveral
 linux distros (e.g. Frugalware), OpenDarwin and on OpenBSD of course.
 Any other crappy package managements where they install files directly to 
 ${LOCALBASE}
 this was not an issue. When others reported this issue they just closed the 
 bugreport
 and did nothing. When I told them that it is fucked, they did nothing. This 
 is sad.
 A PHP guy told me that they will totally remove PEAR from the PHP tarball and
 people must install it sperately. (With go-pear or something.) They are just
 making the installation method worse every time.
 
 How does it work now?
 Well I went back to the old installation method of pear. From now on pear 
 comes 
 with a separate distfile. This distfile contains the old install-pear.php, the
 needed tarballs (PEAR, Archive_Tar, Console_Getopt...) and a patch which is
 applied at pre-configure time. This patch is needed to use our special pear
 directories and stuff. (These patches were in the php port itself but I moved 
 them.)
 Everything seems backward compatible so you can upgarde safely.
 Please test this diff as much as you can (with different FLAVORS) because it 
 is important
 to get this php update in. Thank you.
 
 P.S.: mbalmer and i want to rework the pear infrastructure and i hope we can 
 create
 some ideas together at c2k6. But for now, just test the diff please. :)
 And be sure to CC me if you report something because I am going to miss mails 
 on
 lists like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Index: Makefile.inc
 ===
 RCS file: /cvs/ports/www/php5/Makefile.inc,v
 retrieving revision 1.7
 diff -u -r1.7 Makefile.inc
 --- Makefile.inc  29 Dec 2005 23:03:29 -  1.7
 +++ Makefile.inc  27 Apr 2006 23:54:31 -
 @@ -4,8 +4,8 @@
  # and has Apache that supports DSO's.
  NOT_FOR_ARCHS=   ${NO_SHARED_ARCHS}
  
 -V=   5.0.5
 -DISTNAME=php-${V}
 +V=   5.1.2
 +DISTNAME?=   php-${V}
  CATEGORIES=  www lang
  
  MAINTAINER=  Robert Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@
   http://se.php.net/distributions/ \
   http://no.php.net/distributions/ \
   http://uk.php.net/distributions/
 +MASTER_SITES0=   http://anoncvs.silihost.hu/
  
  # UPGRADERS: please read BOTH the PHP and Zend licenses
  # and make sure they are safe before an upgrade
 Index: distinfo
 ===
 RCS file: /cvs/ports/www/php5/distinfo,v
 retrieving revision 1.7
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 +SHA1 (pear-20060428.tar.gz) = 09713b3052904c1c45acba015dc067ddad0136cb
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  .endfor
  
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 -
 

Re: using queues to limit bandwidth

2006-05-01 Thread Jason Dixon

On May 1, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Chris Bullock wrote:

Can queues be used to queue overall bandwidth?  We have a project  
where we
will be sharing an Internet connection with another company, we  
will have an
IP and they will have an IP each company providing their own  
firewall.  I
understand that queuing is able to queue based on protocol, etc on  
the same
box but lets say there is a T1 shared between the companies, The  
company
tells us, you can have one of our IP addresses but you can only use  
100k of
our bandwidth, can pf do this?  I guess this is more bandwitdh  
throttling

more so than queuing.


Yes, CBQ works quite well.

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/queueing.html#cbq

--
Jason Dixon
DixonGroup Consulting
http://www.dixongroup.net



Re: using queues to limit bandwidth

2006-05-01 Thread Peter Blair

I forgot to mention in my previous e-mail, that if you were to
implement the scenerio outlined in your e-mail, then the other company
would have to 'trust' that you're setting up your firewall to not
exceed your 100k of bandwidth.

Just setup a single queue that caps at 100k.

On 5/1/06, Chris Bullock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can queues be used to queue overall bandwidth?  We have a project where we
will be sharing an Internet connection with another company, we will have an
IP and they will have an IP each company providing their own firewall.  I
understand that queuing is able to queue based on protocol, etc on the same
box but lets say there is a T1 shared between the companies, The company
tells us, you can have one of our IP addresses but you can only use 100k of
our bandwidth, can pf do this?  I guess this is more bandwitdh throttling
more so than queuing.
TIA,
Chris




using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread sebastian . rother
As I saw the website providing torrents for 3.9 I just thought about
somethign for packages.

Isn`t it be possible to switch to torrents to install packages?
In fact there many mirrors and if they all would maybe use torrent the
synergy-effect would be great.

With the trackerless-torrents the Servers don`t even need to set up an
additinal Daemon (tracker).
It may would make more sense for the install sets because there are far
more packages but the synergy-effect would remain.

I think http://openbsd.somedomain.net/ proofs this concept right.


What`s your oppinion about this?!
This would reduce the load of the (Mirror-)Servers and peoples who`ve a
limited connection (e.g. traffic limit or who`ve to pay for each MB) could
still use FTP/http.
This would be also true for peoples who`re behind a restrictive Firewall
(even this limits just the Upload)


Kind regards,
Sebastian



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Well I4m interested in YOUR ubersystem to reduce the load...

Are you a solution in search of a problem, right now?

DS



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Wade, Daniel
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:47 PM
 To: Marco Peereboom
 Cc: misc@openbsd.org
 Subject: Re: using torrents for packages?
 
 Well I4m interested in YOUR ubersystem to reduce the load...
 

Buy the CDs, no load on the ftp servers at all.



Re: What to do to compile POSIX threads enabled GCC?

2006-05-01 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello!

On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:49:46PM +0200, Karel Gardas wrote:
My question is: what's really needed to do to make GCC with threads 
enabled working? I think this will be needed anyway seeing recent SMP and 
Rthreads work appearing in OpenBSD releases.

I'm not sure. What does that mean? I.e. what's the difference from
what you achieve now using gcc -pthread -c foo.c ...
gcc -pthread -o program foo.o ...?

Kind regards,

Hannah.



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Some mirros simply miss some install-Sets and I don4t mean the x* stuff.
Some mirros didn`t updated yet (well I guess they`ll do it later).
Some mirrors have parts of the Source and some have the Source but not the
ports.tar.gz.

And mostly no mirror has packages.


May be I am missing something, but I thought the project have/had plenty 
of mirrors to go around. Yeap today and for the next few days may be to 
busy as everyone is getting to them to get their files instead of may be 
buying CD's, but other then that, I really thought that capacity, even 
for packages was plenty.


Is there really a need for more?

And I am not talking about Torrents, as I prefer getting my data from a 
trusted source thank you.




Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread David Terrell
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 03:58:57PM -0400, Wade, Daniel wrote:
 Buy the CDs, no load on the ftp servers at all.

As soon as you figure out how to get 3G of packages for i386 alone 
onto a CD...

-- 
David Terrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
((meatspace)) http://meat.net/



Re: using queues to limit bandwidth

2006-05-01 Thread Chris Cameron
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 13:02 -0400, Chris Bullock wrote:
 Can queues be used to queue overall bandwidth?  We have a project where we
 will be sharing an Internet connection with another company, we will have an
 IP and they will have an IP each company providing their own firewall.  I
 understand that queuing is able to queue based on protocol, etc on the same
 box but lets say there is a T1 shared between the companies, The company
 tells us, you can have one of our IP addresses but you can only use 100k of
 our bandwidth, can pf do this?  I guess this is more bandwitdh throttling
 more so than queuing.
 TIA,
 Chris
 


No one mentioned it, but this'll only work in one direction. It won't
stop you from saturating the pipe with incoming traffic.



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread sebastian . rother
May be I am missing something, but I thought the project have/had plenty
of mirrors to go around. Yeap today and for the next few days may be to
busy as everyone is getting to them to get their files instead of may be
buying CD's, but other then that, I really thought that capacity, even
for packages was plenty.

Is there really a need for more?

And I am not talking about Torrents, as I prefer getting my data from a
trusted source thank you.

You may wanna request some changes?
F.e. dropping gzsig

I wonder why this tool got into the base if it`s not being used

Well you`ve to download a signed *.tgz completly before you could check it
but you would download a currupt/modified tar.gz also completly before
you`ll notice it

Buy more CD-Sets - Show me a CD-Set containing all Packages...

gzsig + torrent = maybe a solution for the install sets and/or packages
maybe...



Kind regards,
Sebastian



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Adam
On Mon, 01 May 2006 16:08:11 -0400 Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And I am not talking about Torrents, as I prefer getting my data from a 
 trusted source thank you.

As irrelivant as this discussion is, why do people make comments like
this?  What makes downloading through http or ftp so magically secure?
Bittorrent checks the checksum provided by the tracker server.  So you
have to trust you are getting the right data from an http or ftp server,
or you have to trust that you are getting the right data from a tracker
server.  What's the difference?

Adam



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread sebastian . rother
 On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:46:51PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Well I4m interested in YOUR ubersystem to reduce the load...

 I selected a mirror that's local and up to date and set PKG_PATH to use
 it.
 If the packages aren't there I'll select another mirror -or- I'll roll my
 own.

 There I have revealed my uber process.

 This happens very infrequently because I am not as 1337 as most gentoo
 users.
 When I install a box I actually use instead of updating it all day long.

So where exactly did you explained why using the upload-capacity from e.g.
the community (using torrent) to reduce the load of the servers is a bad
idea? I must have missed it

I don4t say Lets kill ftp, http and co..
I just ask you why you why using torrents to reduce the load of the
Servers is such a bad idea in your oppinion. You simply have no synergy
effect with ftp or http. No matter how many proxies/mirrors you`ve.
You wanna download the ports? Well you can get them via FTP and the neat
FTP-Server has some MB traffic. Or you could use torrent and get it from
the same Server a) completly if there no other seeders or b) just a part
if there other seeders. That`s called synergy.. you may know this word.


It`s as trustfull as using binary packages/install-sets from a mirror.
And if you distrust P2P-Technologies start using gzsig...

Kind regards,
Sebastian



Re: pf firewall question

2006-05-01 Thread bofh
On 4/30/06, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2006/04/30 06:34, S t i n g r a y wrote:
  Now what i want to know , maybe is O T in this list
  but what is the diffrence , i mean pf in openBSD is
  refered to as a firewall for home or small offices ?
  why is that , i mean what is the criteria of an
  enterprise firewall what is the diffrence between pf 
  MS ISA / cisco pix or checkpoint ?
  performance ? stability or features ?

 marketing and a manager-friendly gui.



I must say though, a well designed gui can be a great help in managing a set
of firewalls, or a firewall with complex rules.  I like pf for the
cleanliness of syntax and simplicity of doing things, but the guy who ran
the checkpoint firewalls for 50+ sets of firewalls and 2000+ rules across
them all told me he would not have been able to manage it with pf, I did not
believe him.  Now that I'm managing a small bunch of checkpoint boxes with a
few hundred rules, and some vpns, it *does* make things easier.

I know about the traditional argument of making complex things too simple,
but simplifying things for an experienced admin is good thing.  Lusers
shooting themselves in the foot is not my problem.

And anyone thinking of implementing an ISA server is simply asking for it
:)  PIX is another bother.  Fantastic idea, copying checkpoint's gui.  But
when you use it, and it tells you, this feature is not available in the
gui, that rapidly becomes old.

As far as performance goes, anyone implementing any kind of firewalls for a
business should be using hardware that's relatively recent - unless you have
ungodly amounts of specialized rules, performance should not be an issue.



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:14:43PM -0700, Michael Scheliga wrote:
 The torrent idea has been beaten to death during previous 
 releases.

If people are so hot for torrents, then why hasn't someone made one? I
don't recall every hearing that a mirror would be delisted if they
offered torrents. So one of you out there wanting torrents set up a
mirror and get torrents going.

Or is this just a case of someone wanting someone *else* to do
something?

-- 
Darrin Chandler|  Phoenix BSD Users Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/
http://www.stilyagin.com/  |



3.9 on nForce4 based amd64 systems

2006-05-01 Thread Mark Kettenis
Hi All,

Over the last couple of months we have learned that many dual core AMD
Athlon64 X2 and AMD Opteron systems using nVidia's nForce4 chipset
come with a broken MP BIOS implementation.  As a result, they will not
work with the bsd.mp kernel.  For some of these systems, a BIOS update
is available that fixes this, but for many cheaper desktop such an
update doesn't seem to exist.  Over the last few weeks, workarounds
that fix up these broken MP BIOSes have been committed to -current.
As of today, these workarounds have also been committed to the i386
platform.  So if your machine doesn't work properly with a 3.9 bsd.mp,
you might want to try your luck with a -current snapshot a go.

If running a -current snapshot doesn't resolve the problems, please
submit a full bug report.

Cheers,

Mark



Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)

2006-05-01 Thread Vincent Immler

no sorry, not yet
I don't have any USB floppy drives!

Darrin Chandler wrote:

Have you tried booting any other way such as floppy? Just fishing...




Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)

2006-05-01 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:22:41AM +0200, Vincent Immler wrote:
 no sorry, not yet
 I don't have any USB floppy drives!
 
 Darrin Chandler wrote:
 Have you tried booting any other way such as floppy? Just fishing...

I have had some issues with CDROMs. Sometimes I get read errors, then
retries, and end up with a bad file after copy. If that happens to you
during the boot process then you're obviously hosed. But if CD booting
works for the various things you tried then that's probably not the
problem.

Still, I'd try to borrow a USB floppy just to see if you can get booted
up at all.

-- 
Darrin Chandler|  Phoenix BSD Users Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/
http://www.stilyagin.com/  |



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Ted Unangst

On 5/1/06, Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If people are so hot for torrents, then why hasn't someone made one? I
don't recall every hearing that a mirror would be delisted if they
offered torrents. So one of you out there wanting torrents set up a
mirror and get torrents going.


don't worry, they're coming.  i wasn't sure which packages people
would want, so i started one seed for each combination.  any minute
now and i'll be done uploading all
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files.  i'll start tomorrow on amd64.



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If people are so hot for torrents, then why hasn't someone made one?

But Andrew Fresh has.
http://openbsd.somedomain.net/

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 03:39:02PM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote:
 don't worry, they're coming.  i wasn't sure which packages people
 would want, so i started one seed for each combination.  any minute
 now and i'll be done uploading all
 2194807090497090655450114704370049678944665985797805950372769368159998172422787828535257591527477608716372442180425204526459346318686461
 4843428303132546009093554507687285921303311309734218027621519556914828837855975339158139519461319259258584743367981421875462767533212773
 28358615438202398254683140496398307692071016118211017521414400742447285556862317394789544566903565524780962246880881852045704392065095234597328925723779141443473551361399544717611898064714813006917636
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 7621319580998127008384329465263011416106985637932809835663837045585922497642742092049732285251927611662523766179845320518199621517260633
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 files.  i'll start tomorrow on amd64.

K I C K   A S S ! ! !

Er, would you mind doing i386, then sparc64, *then* amd64? Please?

Oh, wait... I have the CDs here. Nevermind.

-- 
Darrin Chandler|  Phoenix BSD Users Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/
http://www.stilyagin.com/  |



Re: OpenBGPd max-prefix

2006-05-01 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Sylvain Coutant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well, your 2 plus the 5 from your other customers plus the
  $max-prefix
 
 The 5 is the $max_prefix. We have just only one BGP customer. Total is 7. I 
 should never have announced more than 7 routes in any case.
 

Is there any reason why you don't filter the announcements you receive
from your customer?



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:42:32PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
 Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If people are so hot for torrents, then why hasn't someone made one?
 
 But Andrew Fresh has.
 http://openbsd.somedomain.net/

Oh, yeah. Right you are. Then why are we having this discussion? You
only need one tracker. Everyone remember to be good netizens and leave
your client active to keep it seeded!

-- 
Darrin Chandler|  Phoenix BSD Users Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/
http://www.stilyagin.com/  |



Re: quad de, flakiness with 3.9

2006-05-01 Thread Chris Cappuccio
David Terrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 02:54:06PM +0200, Martin Reindl wrote:
   Any ideas?  Simply bad hardware?  This was working fine with 3.8 and
   even a 3.9 snapshot from two months ago before the CDs arrived monday
   and I did the upgrade.
  
  Give the dc(4) driver a shot instead.
 
 The dc driver didn't work at all unless I put the device in promiscuous
 mode.
 

I've got some old Znyx ZX346 (quad 21140) cards that used to work great with
dc and somewhat with de.  Now they don't work with either driver.  With de
there is no media support, and with dc there is some kind of problem that
causes random packet loss and corruption.  I haven't had time to troubleshoot
what is going on, I just swapped them out for some dual fxp cards.  

The basic issue here is that de and dc both support a huge number of different
chips.  dc supports many completely different chips from different companies
that all support a similar register set and similar modes of operation

Unfortunately, one person makes a change to dc that fixes their chip, and
breaks two others without knowing it.  



Re: notebook: HP Compaq nc6220 - unable to boot from installation CD (crashes)

2006-05-01 Thread Vincent Immler

Thanks for your help, but I already tried that possibility.

I had to disable the following devices:
pciide*
uhub*
brgphy*
bge*
wdc*
isa0

then the last lines are:
isa at mainbus0 not configured
biomask  netmask  ttymask 
rd0: fixed, 3800blocks
root on rd0a
rootdev=0x1100 rrootdev=0x2f00 rawdev=0x2f02
Warning: RTC time at or beyond 2038
Warning: year set back to 2037
Warning: CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!
Warning: using file system time
Warning: CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!
*hanging*

It can't be that I have to disable so many (important) devices to get to 
this point ...

I wish I would have bought a Thinkpad ...

Dave @ Allnix, LLC wrote:

The boot process stops at different points every time, so it doesn't
help to disable devices (anyway I tried it!)

Does anyone have similar problems? Is there any solution available? The
Hardware should be fine (~6 months old, Windows/FreeBSD/Knoppix all
work!)!



I had something similiar happen to me on an older laptop once.

On the initial boot up, boot with the '-c' option.  At the prompt enable
verbose mode.  It will then boot and you will be able to see what it gets
stuck on.  See also this link...
http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-33216.html

In my case, I had to disable ahc ('disable ahc' at the UKC prompt) and
that enabled me to install OBSD.  After the initial boot and set up, you
don't have to do it again because the install will configure everythink
correctly.


  

I don't want to sell this notebook and buy a Thinkpad instead ... ;-\



Awww, you really should.  I got my first one this month after years with
Apples and Dells with OBSD. OBSD works so well with the TPs.



Dave



  

Thanks for your help in advance.

All the best,
Vincent




Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Greg Thomas

On 5/1/06, Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 03:39:02PM -0700, Ted Unangst wrote:
 don't worry, they're coming.  i wasn't sure which packages people
 would want, so i started one seed for each combination.  any minute
 now and i'll be done uploading all
 
2194807090497090655450114704370049678944665985797805950372769368159998172422787828535257591527477608716372442180425204526459346318686461
 
4843428303132546009093554507687285921303311309734218027621519556914828837855975339158139519461319259258584743367981421875462767533212773
 
28358615438202398254683140496398307692071016118211017521414400742447285556862317394789544566903565524780962246880881852045704392065095234597328925723779141443473551361399544717611898064714813006917636
 
9117525668336549473059320155355919095159407472865798332097949126328312176991466854757339028392311761584626729455246129696273879236135472
 
7621319580998127008384329465263011416106985637932809835663837045585922497642742092049732285251927611662523766179845320518199621517260633
 
4623313397860096097967329881959103106586381056008206614208354797548377368337380343369797445979512824633140976649150429713069662937100641114437721375838643217816671210682744684572173874753152483327
 files.  i'll start tomorrow on amd64.

K I C K   A S S ! ! !


Right on, the developers rox0r



Er, would you mind doing i386, then sparc64, *then* amd64? Please?



Look how reponsive Ted was.  I'm sure he'll cater to your needs. 
Wait, I want PPC first!


Greg



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Greg Thomas

On 5/1/06, Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:42:32PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
 Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If people are so hot for torrents, then why hasn't someone made one?

 But Andrew Fresh has.
 http://openbsd.somedomain.net/

Oh, yeah. Right you are. Then why are we having this discussion? You
only need one tracker. Everyone remember to be good netizens and leave
your client active to keep it seeded!



We're here because Sebastian appears to want the OpenBSD team to
provide an official tracker for official package distribution.  Or
maybe he didn't see that Andrew Fresh is working on packages for 3.9. 
Or maybe he just likes to whine about slow FTP and slow compression

utilities.

Greg



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Jim Razmus
* Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060501 18:27]:
 On 5/1/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Isn`t it be possible to switch to torrents to install packages?
 
 Are you talking about a torrent for each package?  No thanks.
 
 Are you talking about a torrent including all packages?  No thanks.
 
 duh, we're going to create one torrent for every combination of packages.
 

I do hope that's for each architecture too.  :-)~

Jim



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Samurai Chef

On 5/1/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/1/06, Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:42:32PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
  Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   If people are so hot for torrents, then why hasn't someone made one?
 
  But Andrew Fresh has.
  http://openbsd.somedomain.net/

 Oh, yeah. Right you are. Then why are we having this discussion? You
 only need one tracker. Everyone remember to be good netizens and leave
 your client active to keep it seeded!


We're here because Sebastian appears to want the OpenBSD team to
provide an official tracker for official package distribution.  Or
maybe he didn't see that Andrew Fresh is working on packages for 3.9.
Or maybe he just likes to whine about slow FTP and slow compression
utilities.

Greg




Or maybe he can't scrape up $50 for the CDs.



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Greg Thomas

On 5/1/06, Samurai Chef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/1/06, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/1/06, Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 10:42:32PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
   Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
If people are so hot for torrents, then why hasn't someone made one?
  
   But Andrew Fresh has.
   http://openbsd.somedomain.net/
 
  Oh, yeah. Right you are. Then why are we having this discussion? You
  only need one tracker. Everyone remember to be good netizens and leave
  your client active to keep it seeded!
 

 We're here because Sebastian appears to want the OpenBSD team to
 provide an official tracker for official package distribution.  Or
 maybe he didn't see that Andrew Fresh is working on packages for 3.9.
 Or maybe he just likes to whine about slow FTP and slow compression
 utilities.

 Greg



Or maybe he can't scrape up $50 for the CDs.



So he can't do FTP.  He can't buy the CDs.  He can't do the torrents
from http://openbsd.somedomain.net/.  I guess he's screwed then and
we'll no longer be hearing from him!

Greg



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread sebastian . rother
Greg Thomas.. you may need some glasses

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=114648851725516w=2

Hint: Take a look at the date and the time...

Btw: I talked about synergy-effects wich would be provide an advantage for
all Servers. If you don`t know what synergy is and if that`s the reason
why you can`t stop bitching you may wanna visit the school again

This topic is as dead as your mind...


Kind regards,
Sebastian



OpenBSD via serial line

2006-05-01 Thread John Kintaro Tate
I was wondering about installing OpenBSD on a very old laptop (no cdrom) via
serial line. I am aware it would take literally ages.

I am guessing slip would be the way to go, I have never used it before. Does
anyone have anything they can point me at with a reasonable introduction,
such as certain manpages etc.

John

--
There is only one God who creates the universe. This God is my Brain. As
the driver of this Brain I have created a universe in which there are
innumerable other Gods of equal post-hive autonomy with whom I seek to
interest. And my universe was, itself, created by a Higher Level of
DivinityDNA, whose mysteries and wonders I seek to understand and harmonize
with. - Dr. Timothy Leary, Beware Of Monotheism.

http://deoxy.org/bom.htm



Re: PCMCIA on a laptop with a Insyde Software MobilePRO BIOS not working

2006-05-01 Thread Lars Hansson
On Monday 01 May 2006 17:29, Henrik Borgh wrote:
 I suscpect that the situation is pretty much the same on every laptop,
 equpped with a Insyde MobilePRO BIOS,

Or it could just be Acer since I dont get any errors on my generic laptop with 
Insyde MobilePRO 4.00:

OpenBSD 3.9-current (GENERIC) #718: Wed Apr 26 19:36:32 MDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.30GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.30 
GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF
real mem  = 519598080 (507420K)
avail mem = 466530304 (455596K)
using 4256 buffers containing 26083328 bytes (25472K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(17) BIOS, date 05/21/01, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xe9b90
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xe7000/0x661
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfe840/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82801AA LPC rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc800! 0xe/0x1800 0xe6000/0x1000!
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82852GM Hub-PCI rev 0x02
Intel 82852GM Memory rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 not configured
Intel 82852GM Configuration rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 not configured
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82852GM AGP rev 0x02: aperture at 
0xb000, size 0x800
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
Intel 82852GM AGP rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x03: irq 10
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x03: irq 11
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x03: irq 11
usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x03: irq 7
usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub3 at usb3
uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x83
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
cbb0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Texas Instruments PCI1410 CardBus rev 0x02: 
irq 5
rl0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: irq 11, address 
00:e0:4c:44:00:4e
rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0
cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 2 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0x40
pcmcia0 at cardslot0
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801DBM LPC rev 0x03: SpeedStep
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801DBM IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel 
0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: FUJITSU MHT2040AT
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38154MB, 78140160 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: QSI, CDRW/DVD SBW-243, TX08 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801DB SMBus rev 0x03: irq 5
iic0 at ichiic0
auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801DB AC97 rev 0x03: irq 5, ICH4 
AC97
ac97: codec id 0x414c4760 (Avance Logic ALC655)
audio0 at auich0
Intel 82801DB Modem rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
biomask efe5 netmask efe5 ttymask ffe7
pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
uhub4 at uhub3 port 2
uhub4: Genesys Logic USB2.0 Hub, rev 2.00/7.02, addr 2
uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered, single transaction translator
uhidev0 at uhub4 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0
uhidev0: CHESEN USB Keyboard, rev 1.10/1.10, addr 3, iclass 3/1
ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes
wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1
wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0
uhidev1 at uhub4 port 1 configuration 1 interface 1
uhidev1: CHESEN USB Keyboard, rev 1.10/1.10, addr 3, iclass 3/0

Re: Linksys support... hmm

2006-05-01 Thread Lars Hansson
On Sunday 30 April 2006 18:38, Lasse Bach wrote:

 Wtf is that? How can that be a secret?

It probably isnt but i bet that's the standard reply you'll always get from 
first-level support.

 1. Can v5 af the card be used with the ral driver?

I have no idea. I know the ural works with the listed Surecom EP-9001-g 
though.

 2. Why are such information not available to their customers?

Because Linksys makes substandard products (much like their mother company 
Cisco, only cheaper) and have retarded policies?

---
Lars Hansson



Re: pf firewall question

2006-05-01 Thread Lars Hansson
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 05:31, bofh wrote:

 I must say though, a well designed gui can be a great help in managing a
 set of firewalls, or a firewall with complex rules.  I like pf for the
 cleanliness of syntax and simplicity of doing things, but the guy who ran
 the checkpoint firewalls for 50+ sets of firewalls and 2000+ rules across
 them all told me he would not have been able to manage it with pf, I did
 not believe him.  Now that I'm managing a small bunch of checkpoint boxes
 with a few hundred rules, and some vpns, it *does* make things easier.

Maybe that says more about the design of Checkpoint than it does about pf.

---
Lars Hansson



Re: 3.9 build on AMD64

2006-05-01 Thread Ed Vazquez
No.

Stable or Release build that I downloaded boot disks for
today (waiting for my CD's).

Completely blank machine.

Formatted hard drive with low-level SATA utility.

Bob Beck wrote:
 
 * Ed V. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-05-01 12:34]:
 Install from bare metal.

 Install completed without errors.
 
   What did you install? a snapshot that you are now attempting
 to build 3.9 overtop of?
 
   -Bob
 
 
 CVS checkout of '-r OPENBSD_3_9' from 'anoncvs3.usa' was successful
 and 'make obj' and build of both GENERIC and custom kernel went well
 with no reported errors.

 On make build however, the following occurred:

 cc -O2 -pipe  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DBINDIR=\/usr/bin\
 -DSBINDIR=\/usr/sbin\ -DLIBEXECDIR=\/usr/libexec\
 -DSYSCONFDIR=\/etc/kerberosV\  -I/usr/include/kerberosV
 -I/usr/src/kerberosV/libexec/kdc/../../include
 -I/usr/src/kerberosV/libexec/kdc/../../src/lib/roken
 -I/usr/src/kerberosV/libexec/kdc/../../src/include
 -I/usr/src/kerberosV/libexec/kdc/../../src/lib/sl -Wall
 -DHAVE_DLOPEN -I/usr/src/kerberosV/libexec/kdc/../../src/lib/krb5
 -I/usr/src/kerberosV/libexec/kdc/../../src/kdc   -c
 /usr/src/kerberosV/src/lib/roken/parse_bytes.c
 cc   -o kdc 524.o config.o connect.o kerberos5.o kerberos4.o log.o
 main.o misc.o print_version.o parse_bytes.o -lkrb5 -ldes -lcrypto -lutil
 524.o(.text+0x37): In function `fetch_server':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 524.o(.text+0x14d): In function `log_524':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0xe38): In function `as_rep':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0xea9): In function `as_rep':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0x11a8): In function `as_rep':
 : undefined reference to `KDCOptions_units'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0x24a4): In function `tgs_make_reply':
 : undefined reference to `krb5_principal2principalname'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0x2c1e): In function `need_referral':
 : undefined reference to `krb5_get_host_realm_int'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0x2d60): In function `tgs_rep2':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0x328c): In function `tgs_rep2':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0x335f): In function `tgs_rep2':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0x33a6): In function `tgs_rep2':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 kerberos5.o(.text+0x33d0): In function `tgs_rep2':
 : undefined reference to `KDCOptions_units'
 kerberos4.o(.text+0x5b): In function `encode_v4_ticket':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 kerberos4.o(.text+0x106): In function `encode_v4_ticket':
 : undefined reference to `principalname2krb5_principal'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/kerberosV/libexec/kdc (line 93 of
 /usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk).
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/kerberosV/libexec.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src/kerberosV.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src (line 73 of Makefile).

 'dmesg' output is attached as plain text file.

 Did I hose something?  Or is this a 'known error' that there is a
 workaround for?

 -- 
 Ed V.
 # cat /var/run/dmesg.boot
 OpenBSD 3.9 (Asus-A8N) #0: Mon May  1 11:05:52 MDT 2006
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/Asus-A8N
 real mem = 2147020800 (2096700K)
 avail mem = 1837740032 (1794668K)
 using 22937 buffers containing 214908928 bytes (209872K) of memory
 mainbus0 (root)
 acpi0 at mainbus0: rev 0
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP MCFG
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
 cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
 cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 4000+, 2412.64 MHz
 cpu0: 
 FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
 cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 
 16-way L2 cache
 cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
 cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
 NVIDIA nForce4 DDR rev 0xa3 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured
 pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 ISA rev 0xa3
 nviic0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 NVIDIA nForce4 SMBus rev 0xa2
 iic0 at nviic0
 iic1 at nviic0
 lm0 at iic1 addr 0x2f: W83791SD
 ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 USB rev 0xa2: irq 5, version 
 1.0, legacy support
 usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
 uhub0 at usb0
 uhub0: NVIDIA OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub0: 10 ports with 10 removable, self powered
 ehci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 NVIDIA nForce4 USB rev 0xa3: irq 3
 usb1 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
 uhub1 at usb1
 uhub1: NVIDIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
 uhub1: 10 ports with 10 removable, self powered
 pciide0 at pci0 dev 6 

Re: pf firewall question

2006-05-01 Thread bofh
On 5/1/06, Lars Hansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 02 May 2006 05:31, bofh wrote:

  I must say though, a well designed gui can be a great help in managing a

[...]

  not believe him.  Now that I'm managing a small bunch of checkpoint
 boxes
  with a few hundred rules, and some vpns, it *does* make things easier.

 Maybe that says more about the design of Checkpoint than it does about pf.


Hence that bit about a well designed gui.  Not all guis are designed equally
well.  We just had a nortel sales guy tell us that their new ($$) contivity
admin software is just like checkpoint.  We tried it.  OK, it was like
checkpoint just like some ugly drag queen[1] is just like a supermodel
because he put on a bikini.  Yucks.

[1]  Apologies to anyone who has hots for ugly drag queens.



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread bofh
On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Greg Thomas.. you may need some glasses

 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=114648851725516w=2

 Hint: Take a look at the date and the time...

 Btw: I talked about synergy-effects wich would be provide an advantage for
 all Servers. If you don`t know what synergy is and if that`s the reason
 why you can`t stop bitching you may wanna visit the school again


Dude,
This is openbsd.  It's a put up or shut up world.  If you want torrents of
packages, put it up.  If you're not willing to do it, but want to fly a flag
up and see if someone else will do it, go ahead, but if the flag gets shot,
just withdraw it.  Right now, it seems that none of the developers are
willing to spend time or effort on it.  It also appears that each time
someone brings it up, the developers are not willing to do it.  So, unless
you want to do it, please drop it.  Thanx.



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Adam wrote:

On Mon, 01 May 2006 16:08:11 -0400 Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And I am not talking about Torrents, as I prefer getting my data from a 
trusted source thank you.


As irrelivant as this discussion is, why do people make comments like
this?  What makes downloading through http or ftp so magically secure?
Bittorrent checks the checksum provided by the tracker server.  So you
have to trust you are getting the right data from an http or ftp server,
or you have to trust that you are getting the right data from a tracker
server.  What's the difference?


I don't want to turn this into a debate. I didn't imply that ftp or http 
was more secure then Bittorrent, but it provide the checksum as well as 
the files from the same source. But getting my files from example:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
where Maintained by Todd Miller.

or from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
Maintained by Bob Beck

or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
Maintained by Michael Shalayeff.

just to take a few only and that doesn't put a judgment on the other 
maintainers of other source, is more likely to be more secure and more 
trusted with many more eyeballs looking at it then a bittorrent from 
someone that I don't know or may not have been on the lists for many 
years contributing and helping others as well with track records coming 
from long ago.


It was a simple statement on the likely hood to make more trusted source 
file form well known source maintain by trusted people known to the 
project. After all they have cvs rights, so that must mean something no?


If a dev with cvs right setup a bittorrent for distributions, or someone 
with many years of track records on the lists setup that, then I am more 
likely to trust it, or not.


I am not saying anything bad about anyone that may want to help with 
bittorrent, if you took it as an insult, then my apology for that. Sure 
wasn't my intentions here.


If the pkg_add for example was always comparing the checksum of any 
download source with a reference at checksum.openbsd.org for example via 
ssh, or what not, then I would say, yes, we can trust any download 
source as when it take it, it will automatically kill it if it is not 
right. But it is not how it is really.


Now, I don't need the answer to this and I don't want to extend this 
more either. so I will stop here, no more reply either on the subject, 
but may be a user may check the checksum of the files when download with 
the listed one, but how many actually go check the main site as well to 
get the checksum from that site.


I bet you many just use pkg_add and thing it does check the checksum by 
itself and if you have something on bittorrent that is tinted, but the 
checksum actually reflect the file, even if it doesn't reflect the main 
site, I would be curious to know how long this would go before it's been 
notice.


Anyway, sorry for my statement in the first post. I main a mistake to 
express it there and it shadow the real question that was if there was a 
need for more capacity for packages for example.


I was offering that, but it got miss receive and my apology for that.

In the end, I conclude that there isn't any need for more capacity as it 
wasn't express as been needed.


Sorry for the noise.

Daniel



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 03:57:42AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Btw: I talked about synergy-effects wich would be provide an advantage for
 all Servers. If you don`t know what synergy is and if that`s the reason
 why you can`t stop bitching you may wanna visit the school again
 
 This topic is as dead as your mind...

  hmm.

  don't get me wrong; i enjoy being able to use my upstream 
  to give more than i get with torrents, but i don't believe:

$ sudo pkg_add calc-2.11.7
calc-2.11.7|connecting to tracker
calc-2.11.7|torrenting
calc-2.11.7|download complete.  seeding.  ^Z to background ^C to cancel

  makes much sense.

  i reread the OP to make sure i was reading the original question right,
  and there is mention that it might make more sense for the install
  sets than for packages, but the original topic is for packages; 
  anyone around since this time last year remembers andrew fresh's
  post up about the torrents he's seeding, which already have
  $(uname -r).$(uname -m).packages.torrent; so i imagine the original
  question has to do primarily with individual packages...

  a couple of things spring to mind:

A) python would have to be in base then.  the license seems to my
   amateur eyes as a BSD license with a tamed-down djb clause #3.
   perhaps the license excludes it from consideration in base.

B) making the ports infrastructure make constructive use of 
   the bittorrent concept might be complicated.  some packages
   are quite small; some packages are quite large.  people are
   going to have to sit around seeding forever for some of them
   for there to be any difference from just going FTP...

  do you really think there's a need for an official/integrated
  torrent mechanism for obsd, given what binaries are actually
  distrubuted, other than what someone else has already stepped
  up and provided?

 Kind regards,
 Sebastian

  if those are kind regards, i wonder what lively discussion
  would be borne of the unkind ones...

-- 

  jared

[ openbsd 3.9-current GENERIC ( mar 15 ) // i386 ]



Re: OpenBSD via serial line

2006-05-01 Thread STeve Andre'
On Monday 01 May 2006 22:15, John Kintaro Tate wrote:
 I was wondering about installing OpenBSD on a very old laptop (no cdrom)
 via serial line. I am aware it would take literally ages.

 I am guessing slip would be the way to go, I have never used it before.
 Does anyone have anything they can point me at with a reasonable
 introduction, such as certain manpages etc.

 John

I've never thought about a serial feeding.  You're right, it would
take forever.  My suggestion would be to take the disk out of the
laptop and stuff it into a more modern unit and do the install
that way, or, get an adaptor and put the disk into an i386 box
and do an install that way.  Either way is apt to be faster than
using a serial line (gack).

--STeve Andre'



Re: OpenBSD via serial line

2006-05-01 Thread Ray Lai
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:15:09PM +1000, John Kintaro Tate wrote:
 I was wondering about installing OpenBSD on a very old laptop (no cdrom) via
 serial line. I am aware it would take literally ages.
 
 I am guessing slip would be the way to go, I have never used it before. Does
 anyone have anything they can point me at with a reasonable introduction,
 such as certain manpages etc.

No network?

-Ray-



Re: OpenBSD via serial line

2006-05-01 Thread Chris Zakelj
STeve Andre' wrote:
 On Monday 01 May 2006 22:15, John Kintaro Tate wrote:
   
 I was wondering about installing OpenBSD on a very old laptop (no cdrom)
 via serial line. I am aware it would take literally ages.

 I am guessing slip would be the way to go, I have never used it before.
 Does anyone have anything they can point me at with a reasonable
 introduction, such as certain manpages etc.

 John
 
 I've never thought about a serial feeding.  You're right, it would
 take forever.  My suggestion would be to take the disk out of the
 laptop and stuff it into a more modern unit and do the install
 that way, or, get an adaptor and put the disk into an i386 box
 and do an install that way.  Either way is apt to be faster than
 using a serial line (gack).
   
How about a USB PCMCIA card plus USB CD-ROM?  Probably need the 'c'
floppy instead of the 'a', but it might work.



Red Black Trees

2006-05-01 Thread Brian
I am reading through the tree(3), and I need some clarification.  If I want to
correctly remove an element from a red black tree that I have found and free
it's memory allocation, this code should work, right?  

find.i = 400;
n = RB_FIND(inttree, head, find);
if (n != NULL) {
n = RB_REMOVE(inttree, head, n);
free(n);
} else if (n == NULL)
(void)printf(satisfied NULL check\n);

I ask because the man page is clear for splay trees, but I am not certain for
Red Black trees.  I looked at /usr/include/sys/tree.h, and I did not find any
explicit free's. 

I assume that since RB_REMOVE will provide me with a pointer to the removed
element, that all I need to do is free it.  

Also, is the above the most efficient way to find and remove an element from a
red black tree?

Cheers,

Brian
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Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Greg Thomas

On 5/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greg Thomas.. you may need some glasses

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=114648851725516w=2

Hint: Take a look at the date and the time...



http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-31242.html

What's your point and why are you bothering misc about something that
is not going to be handled by the developers and is already being
handled by someone else?

Greg



Re: using torrents for packages?

2006-05-01 Thread Jeremy Huiskamp

On 2-May-06, at 12:21 AM, jared r r spiegel wrote:


  a couple of things spring to mind:

A) python would have to be in base then.  the license seems to my
   amateur eyes as a BSD license with a tamed-down djb clause #3.
   perhaps the license excludes it from consideration in base.


bittorrent is a protocol whose first implementation happened to be in  
python, nothing more...




B) making the ports infrastructure make constructive use of
   the bittorrent concept might be complicated.  some packages
   are quite small; some packages are quite large.  people are
   going to have to sit around seeding forever for some of them
   for there to be any difference from just going FTP...


Obviously the idea of seeding makes integrating bt with the package  
tools ridiculous.  The only way to start would be to download them by  
hand (which we can all do now apparently, teh yays!) but that makes  
dependency management hellish.  I guess somebody could hack up a bt  
client that was dependency aware to use alongside the package tools.   
But the nearest mirror has always been lightning fast for me, much  
faster than I expect bt would ever be.  Out of the thousands of  
packages, how many people are really going to leave their machines  
seeding the particular ones that I want?


Jeremy



Compilers make a system less secure?

2006-05-01 Thread josh
Hello...

Some people seem to think that installing a compiler inherently makes
their system less secure... despite never being able to cite any actual
reasons why.

Personally, I really dont see how a compiler is going to lessen
security, particuarly when they are used to patch the system, But I was
wondering what people here thought?


Josh