Re: Kernel interrupt timer?
Geoff Steckel wrote: I worked on a commercial product based on altq on which a 1KHz clock was very useful. This used slow (400MHz) Pentium-class CPUs, and the increase in system overhead over a 100Hz clock was approximately 2%. Without the fast clock, accurately and consistently managing bandwidth down to 1% slices was difficult. We too have problems to obtain an accurate bandwidth management with many queues (hfsc) with low bandwidth percentages (sometimes a queue gets almost all bandwidth and other queues starve...) Do you think that increasing clock could help? The CPU is an Athlon 1.2 GHz, but CPU usage is quite low (85% idle time on average). Do you think a faster CPU could help? Thanks. -- ___ __ |- [EMAIL PROTECTED] |ederico Giannici http://www.neomedia.it ___
Re: IBM ServeRAID 4Lx
Dominik Zalewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I'm going to install OpenBSD 4.1 on IBM xSeries 206. It has raid controller IBM ServerRAID 4Lx. I see that ips driver is supported http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ipsapropos=0sektion=4manpath=OpenBSD+4.1arch=i386format=html Anyways, does anybody had problems with it? What about bioctl? No bioctl for ips. But just give it a try.
Re: PFSYNC
I know it, but i don't know how make it work to sync tabled with another machine. from: http://www.openbsd.org/4.1_packages/m68k/tabled-1.0.4p0.tgz-long.html daemon to modify pf tables from an unprivileged process in userland, useful e.g. when you want to add hostnames to a pf table from a chrooted process, e.g. from a webserver. Don't say nothing about network and man page only talk about to use a fifo. Thanks On 5/27/07, Mathieu Sauve-Frankel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:55:26AM +, Ryan McBride wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 09:36:48AM +0200, Alberich de megres wrote: I know i repeat myself, but that's important for me: my pf isn't syncing tables i create. Can I solve this? Write a tool that synchronises your tables. You don't need to write this tool. It already exists in the ports tree. sysutils/tabled. Thank mbalmer@ for that. -- Mathieu Sauve-Frankel
Re: Problem using flashboot (openBSD based), can't get it to boot
Boudewijn Ector wrote: The ; at the end here means that the WRAP BIOS said it could not do LBA reads, so biosboot fell back to CHS reads. No O/S And since you installed on a different machine, the geometry was almost certainly different, so the operating system wouldnt be at the same place (cylinder/head/sector), hence it's not found. No idea how you can fix it, though. Tom Thanks anyway, it's a clue at least. Maybe some of the gurus here know it? Okay, I assume I need to set LBA in bios, and change the CHS settings of the microdrive. This can be done using fdisk , but how to determine the correct values? At second, someone attended me on the fact that I'm creating the image using a USB-based cardreader(thus scsi like) and running it as an IDE device (at Linux , hda) on my board. different kind of bootsection? Can someone confirm this?
Re: Problem using flashboot (openBSD based), can't get it to boot
Boudewijn Ector wrote: Boudewijn Ector wrote: The ; at the end here means that the WRAP BIOS said it could not do LBA reads, so biosboot fell back to CHS reads. No O/S And since you installed on a different machine, the geometry was almost certainly different, so the operating system wouldnt be at the same place (cylinder/head/sector), hence it's not found. No idea how you can fix it, though. Tom Thanks anyway, it's a clue at least. Maybe some of the gurus here know it? Okay, I assume I need to set LBA in bios, and change the CHS settings of the microdrive. This can be done using fdisk , but how to determine the correct values? At second, someone attended me on the fact that I'm creating the image using a USB-based cardreader(thus scsi like) and running it as an IDE device (at Linux , hda) on my board. different kind of bootsection? Can someone confirm this? google for WRAP, flashboot, and PXE. the 'easiest' way to install is to use the WRAP's own bios a bsd.rd to get enough stuff up running to download the .gz image over FTP write directly onto the card. i've done this on a soekris easily, wrap should be similar. i'll look for some link-rotted urls later if i can find them, email offlist a+ scorch
obsd 4.1 plsu squid
Dear all I will developt new server for my proxy server , i will try using squid with transparent with snmp . But i want know does squid-transparent-snmp support for delay_pools anda mac address acl ? Thx a lot sonjaya http://sicute.blogspot.com
Re: Problem using flashboot (openBSD based), can't get it to boot
Hello, Boudewijn Ector wrote: Boudewijn Ector wrote: The ; at the end here means that the WRAP BIOS said it could not do LBA reads, so biosboot fell back to CHS reads. No O/S And since you installed on a different machine, the geometry was almost certainly different, so the operating system wouldnt be at the same place (cylinder/head/sector), hence it's not found. No idea how you can fix it, though. Tom Thanks anyway, it's a clue at least. Maybe some of the gurus here know it? Okay, I assume I need to set LBA in bios, and change the CHS settings of the microdrive. This can be done using fdisk , but how to determine the correct values? At second, someone attended me on the fact that I'm creating the image using a USB-based cardreader(thus scsi like) and running it as an IDE device (at Linux , hda) on my board. different kind of bootsection? Can someone confirm this? google for WRAP, flashboot, and PXE. the 'easiest' way to install is to use the WRAP's own bios a bsd.rd to get enough stuff up running to download the .gz image over FTP write directly onto the card. i've done this on a soekris easily, wrap should be similar. i'll look for some link-rotted urls later if i can find them, email offlist a+ scorch it's not easy because of a bios bug. You first have to update the bios. I wrote a small howto in a forum thread: http://www.bsdforen.de/archive/index.php/t-15259.html It's german, let me know if you need an english translation. For the geometry question: You missed my replay I wrote yesterday? Regards Hagen Volpers
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Re: Could non-used, but non-upgraded X install freeze a system?
On Tue, 29 May 2007 21:01:21 -0600 Matthieu Herrb [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake: On 5/29/07, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey anyone, We've been having this issue with our router freezing up. Completely dead. No panic, no error, just phooey. Anyway, memory and disk tests did not show anything so we are going to replace the hardware. But in prepping for this I noticed that the original installation had X installed. Now I was unaware of this, and in subsequent upgrades did not install newer X packages. That being said, the problems started after I upgraded from 3.8 - 3.9 - 4.0 (In one sitting). I don't use X on there and even have the aperture disabled in sysconf. Is there any way this could cause my system to completely freeze? No. Definatly not. What is the best way to try to re-mediate from this? A full clean install? It's currently at 4.1 + patches. (X is still at 3.8 I imagine). Errors I could understand, but I don't see think it would lock a system up... but I am not that good, so I am asking here, before yanking the hardware out. I've no idea. You don't provide enough details. Does the box still answer pings? does the caps -lock led still toggle ? post a dmesg ? Sorry for the lack of info. I posted it all before and did not get very far. This was just to check out the X factor so to speak. The box is dead - no caps lock, nothing. The most is that the nic cards I believe still blink some. Other than that its power down completely. Thanks
Instant Messenger client
Does anyone know of a good, easy-to-use client for Yahoo instant messenger in the ports tree. I do an internet radio show (definitely not OpenBSD topical) and I need one that an intern can use on my spare laptop to interface with listeners etc. The laptop will be running OpenBSD 4.1 w/X and he will also be using firefox to check Yahoo email. please note, our intern is STUPID so he needs something fairly easy to use. Stuart van Zee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya can't fix stupid
Re: Kernel interrupt timer?
Federico Giannici wrote: Geoff Steckel wrote: I worked on a commercial product based on altq on which a 1KHz clock was very useful. This used slow (400MHz) Pentium-class CPUs, and the increase in system overhead over a 100Hz clock was approximately 2%. Without the fast clock, accurately and consistently managing bandwidth down to 1% slices was difficult. We too have problems to obtain an accurate bandwidth management with many queues (hfsc) with low bandwidth percentages (sometimes a queue gets almost all bandwidth and other queues starve...) Do you think that increasing clock could help? The CPU is an Athlon 1.2 GHz, but CPU usage is quite low (85% idle time on average). Do you think a faster CPU could help? Thanks. Maybe. It depends on your link speed, packet sizes, and queue parameters. Getting good bandwidth management at low rates has problems if the time it takes to transmit a MSS packet (say 1500 bytes) is large relative to the time quota. On a T1 (1.5 megabit) link, a 1500 byte packet takes approximately 80 milliseconds to transmit. Depending on how the queue parameters are set, a 1% quota HFSC queue could get a lot more or a lot less. In this case, increasing the clock resolution won't help. On a 100Mbit link or higher, a fast clock is essential to get good queue discipline because there's no other way to reliably restart transmission on an idle link. Another factor which can upset queue discipline is the output buffer queue length, which if too long can make problems under some circumstances. I haven't looked at altq or hfsc code in years, so YMMV.
Re: Instant Messenger client
On 30/05/07, stuart van Zee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a good, easy-to-use client for Yahoo instant messenger in the ports tree. I do an internet radio show (definitely not OpenBSD topical) and I need one that an intern can use on my spare laptop to interface with listeners etc. The laptop will be running OpenBSD 4.1 w/X and he will also be using firefox to check Yahoo email. please note, our intern is STUPID so he needs something fairly easy to use. Gaim? It's compatible with AIM, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo, IRC, Jabber, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise, and Zephyr networks. And simple enough to use. -- ~michael www.bsdqed.com
Re: Instant Messenger client
Thank you to everyone that replied. I knew someone here would have the perfect answer. I overlooked gaim because it has aim in the title and thought it would be an AOL client. Needless to say, I do little to no instant messaging myself or I would have already had an instant messenger. s
Re: Instant Messenger client
snip Gaim? It's compatible with AIM, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo, IRC, Jabber, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise, and Zephyr networks. And simple enough to use. Note that as of gaim's 2.0 release, the project has been renamed to pidgin I've been using it in linux for quite some time now with no problems, but I am not sure how it runs on openbsd (though I'd expect no issues). ~Jason
Re: Instant Messenger client
If you're running a recent post 4.1 install there is also net/pidgin, a port for it was added to the tree on May 28th. diana
Re: obsd 4.1 plsu squid
here error : # squid -k reconfigure 2007/05/31 01:39:34| parseConfigFile: line 3895 unrecognized: 'delay_pools 2' 2007/05/31 01:39:34| parseConfigFile: line 3896 unrecognized: 'delay_class 1 2' 2007/05/31 01:39:34| parseConfigFile: line 3897 unrecognized: 'delay_access 1 allow limited ' 2007/05/31 01:39:34| parseConfigFile: line 3898 unrecognized: 'delay_access 2 allow fileblok' 2007/05/31 01:39:34| parseConfigFile: line 3899 unrecognized: 'delay_parameter 2 4000/4000 -1/-1 2000/4000' # that mean do not support delay_pools ? On 5/30/07, sonjaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all I will developt new server for my proxy server , i will try using squid with transparent with snmp . But i want know does squid-transparent-snmp support for delay_pools anda mac address acl ? Thx a lot sonjaya http://sicute.blogspot.com -- sonjaya http://sicute.blogspot.com
No i partition when connecting camera to USB
When connecting a Nikon Coolpix L10 camera to my laptop via USB, no i partition shows up: $ sudo disklabel sd0 disklabel: warning, DOS partition table with no valid OpenBSD partition # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: SCSI disk label: DSC COOLPIX L10 flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 250 total sectors: 4019904 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # microseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # microseconds drivedata: 0 16 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] c: 4019904 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 - 250* Obviously I cannot mount /dev/sd0i: $ sudo mount -t msdos /dev/sd0i /mnt/flashmem mount_msdos: /dev/sd0i on /mnt: Device not configured fdisk shows: $ sudo fdisk sd0 Disk: sd0 geometry: 250/255/63 [4019904 Sectors] Offset: 0 Signature: 0xAA55 Starting Ending LBA Info: #: idC H S -C H S [ start: size ] 0: 060 3 55 - 250 95 37 [ 243: 4022029 ] DOS 32MB 1: 000 0 0 -0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused 2: 000 0 0 -0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused 3: 000 0 0 -0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused Is there anything I can do to get the i partition to show up? I have no problems using the camera in FreeBSD 6.2 and Windows XP. dmesg follows (camera connect lines are at the bottom). Please ask if you need me to supply more info. Best regards, Martin OpenBSD 4.1-current (GENERIC) #2: Mon May 28 21:36:52 CEST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 535785472 (510MB) avail mem = 509038592 (485MB) mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 04/19/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (61 entries) bios0: IBM 2373NG9 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 100% apm0: AC on, battery charge high apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe/0x1 acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1600 MHz (1484 mV): speeds: 1600, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800, 600 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82855PE Hub rev 0x03 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82855PE AGP rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility M9 Lf rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x81 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 cbb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 cbb1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 TI PCI4520 CardBus rev 0x01: irq 11 em0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EP) rev 0x03: irq 11, address 00:11:25:44:6c:4a ral0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 Ralink RT2561S rev 0x00: irq 11, address 00:12:0e:61:81:1c ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT5225 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 6 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801DBM LPC rev 0x01: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801DBM IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: FUJITSU MHT2040AH wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 38154MB, 78140160 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: HL-DT-ST, DVD-ROM GDR8083N, 0K04 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801DB SMBus
Re: No i partition when connecting camera to USB
On 5/30/07, Martin Toft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When connecting a Nikon Coolpix L10 camera to my laptop via USB, no i partition shows up: snip Check out the gphoto2 libraries, there are a couple qt/gtk based gui frontends to extract the photos. Most of these cameras have proprietary methods of accessing the memory card in an attempt to convolute the process..so you often won't see the memory card as a sd* device..like you should. I also picked up a simple memory card reader from newegg, because while I could extract photos through the gphoto method, mpeg movies liked to crash the various apps I tried. Good luck. ~Jason
Re: No i partition when connecting camera to USB
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 05:09:55PM +0200, Martin Toft wrote: [snip] umass0 detached Ups... my cutting in the dmesg has been revealed. The above line is a leftover from connecting/disconnecting the camera several times. NB: It didn't help. umass0 at uhub2 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 umass0: NIKON NIKON DSC COOLPIX L10, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2 umass0: using ATAPI over Bulk-Only scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: NIKON, DSC COOLPIX L10, SCSI0 0/direct removable sd0: 1962MB, 250 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 4019904 sec total Best regards, Martin
Re: PFSYNC
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:02:08PM +0200, Alberich de megres wrote: Maybe it's a silly question but don't know where to start with tabled :S I only got it installed. please..any help? With the caveat that I've never actually used it... It appears tabled.conf(5) documents an option to allow tabled to listen on a TCP port; tablec(8) documents an option to send commands to that socket. So if you can script tablec to fire at the right moment, this should work. If you are, for instance, parsing SSH requests out of log files, that need not be too difficult... Joachim -- TFMotD: mount_ados (8) - mount an AmigaDOS file system
Re: Upgrade question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On May 29 Joachim Schipper wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:13:48PM -0500, Denny White wrote: I've been running a snapshot from several months back got my new 4.1 cds finally. Uname shows OpenBSD 4.1 Generic#0. I want to keep my existing /home /data partitions, delete all the rest, recreate them finish the install. After I reboot, I was hoping I could copy over the old users from the old /etc/group into the new one, copy the old passwd over run pwd_mkdb. Just want to know if I've reasoned it out correctly or not, if it is right if there's anything else I need to run to synchronize things, so on. I've tried looking up that kind of scenario with google, in the mail archives so forth just don't seem to come up with what I need. The point of what I'm trying to accomplish is not to have to copy so much from the 2 aforementioned partitions to another drive then copy it all back after recreating users. Thanks for any help. Be careful: each release adds, and occasionally removes, new system users. It's far safer to either update or reinstall, and you'll want to look at www.openbsd.org/current.html for anything resembling an update. Joachim Thanks, Joachim. I was going to look in the new group after a fresh install to see what had been added or removed. Always before I've either done a complete fresh install or an upgrade, so I didn't have to worry about the users in /home. I just recreated them on the new system, if it was a fresh install, with their same uid's. Then I copied everything from backups back over to the respective dirs. I was just trying to get out of doing that this time. I figured at the very worst my idea wouldn't work I'd have to wipe it all out do it the old way. I thought if I added the old /home users to the new /etc/group, copied the /home dirs over, ran pwd_mkdb properly chown the /home dirs, it might work. That's what I was trying to find out. Now that I've thought more about it, probably the easiest way is to just exclude /home /data when I delete recreate the other partitions, recreate the users on the new install with their same uid's, run pwd_mkdb their dirs will be okay. Thanks for your answer info. I think I've unnecessarily complicated this. ;) Thoughts? - --Denny White === GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A === iD8DBQFGXZ4hy0Ty5RZE55oRAipYAKC81rBtYu3mVmilYlAbPuDJLhurMQCfaC/h CdAe5l6Kac/xffbl0rsQi/E= =D5xG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: serial terminal
On Tue, 29 May 2007, Maurice Janssen wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use a VT420 serial terminal on an i386 box running 4.1-stable. Not as a system console, just as an extra screen to login. The output of the boot loader and kernel output should go to the monitor, as usual. The terminal is hooked up to the first serial port with a null modem cable. I changed the tty00 line of /etc/ttys to: tty00 /usr/libexec/getty std.9600 vt220 on secure and sent -HUP to init. There's a getty process on tty00, but there's no login: prompt on the terminal. Everything I type on the terminal is echoed on the screen, so the cable is OK (local echo is off). H. Look into two things, no, make that three: 1) The settings on the terminal, whether XON/XOFF or RTS/CTS synchronization is selected, also baud rate, parity, 8/7 bits. Try 8 bits, No parity, 1 stop bit (8N1). 2) The settings on the tty, from # stty -a /dev/tty00 when the getty is running. 3) There are null modem cables, and there are null modem cables. Some are just plain junk, providing only cross over of the two data pins and if you're lucky, a ground. Others implement various ideas of what a null modem cable should be; the opinions of what a null modem cable differed between Digital, who made your terminal and IBM, who designed the PeeCee. The funny thing is, when I start 'tip tty00' on the machine (while logged in at the keyboard+monitor), the login: prompt appears on the terminal. Yeah, this is weird. You should be able to get the login: prompt by at most hitting the carriage return on the 420 twice. Try to set up everything for XON/XOFF flow control. When I quit tip, I can login at the terminal. When I logout from the terminal, the login: prompt doesn't appear (but everything I type is echoed to the terminal screen as before). I can start tip again, and then the login: prompt shows up again. I suspected a problem with the permissions of the tty00 device. After logout, they are set to crw--- 1 root wheel8, 0 May 29 21:44 tty00 This, by default, should be uucp.dialer, permissions crw-rw---, when at rest. When a getty is running, it should be as shown here. When logged in it is set to crw--- 1 maurice tty8, 0 May 29 22:00 tty00 Not sure if this is what it should be, but it doesn't look strange to me. BTW: not sure if it is related, but when I login as normal user, the following warning is shown on the terminal: ksh: No controlling tty (open /dev/tty: Device busy) ksh: warning: won't have full job control When I login as root, I don't get this warning. Ick. I have my suspicions, but won't voice them since they are superstitious. They involve a brief trip to single-user mode and running cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV all. Any ideas what's going wrong? Yeah, you're using a serial terminal on a PeeCee. (sarcasm). You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. The lamp grows dimmer. (Zork, a metaphor for debugging RS-232). Install a terminal emulator on the box, like kermit or something like minicom, from ports if the sometimes goofy behavior of tip/cu annoys you (like killing its parent xterm when you give it ~.). Hook up the terminal. See what you can do. Try things (settings). Terminals are a PITA, as bad as serial printers. See if the 420 has a VT-220 emulation mode, if so try it. It's hard to debug them over the phone (by email) like this, one needs to poke and try. A RS232 line analyzer is real handy. There used to be various utilities for MS-DOS that would display line status of the com ports on the screen, much like the blinkenlights on a modem. Don't know it they exist for Unix. Could kermit have such a feature? One has to delve into the kernel to see these things, a forbidden zone in Unix, unless some happy ioctl to pccom exists. Helpful man pages: tty, tip, remote, cu, getty, gettytab, pccom With the getty killed, try catting a large text file to /dev/tty00 (as root), look for garbage on the terminal, a sign of flow control being wrong. Try this with the terminal set for smooth scrolling. A debugging test: use the same cable (if you can) and connect the com ports of two OpenBSD boxes. Start the getty on one, and use tip/cu/minicom/kermit on the other. Everything should work fine. If it doesn't, the cable sucks in some way. If it doesn't work, force XON/XOFF on both boxes. How you do this for getty is a good question, settings in gettytab is the answer. Dave I already have a headache, and it's not my problem!
Re: slurpr: do we have the technology?
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 12:16:05PM -0500, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: Joachim Schipper wrote: The OpenBSD version comes with more, and more advanced, 'education' tools, too. Seriously though, just buy your own bandwidth. education is for pedigreed animals that run in circles at stadiums. i eat dogs for breakfast! 'education', in this case, can refer to things like Nessus and Metasploit (I do suppose that runs). In other words, 'integrated network RAID capability'. i was sooo planning on hosting this new website from the cardboard box i live in. you got something against people who live in cardboard boxes or something?! Not really; I've never lived in a house where you couldn't punch through at least one (internal!) wall. Joachim -- TFMotD: oldrdist (1) - remote file distribution program
Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Is there a reason snapshots do not currently come with a src/sys.tar.gz as releases do? I would think this to be quite useful for people wishing/requiring building their own kernels, and using snapshots, as it would help to minimize damage from kernel/userland (and packages) coming out of sync. I'm sure there's a good reason for them not being included, but I'm just curious as to what it is, I was unable to find anything in the archives. Jimmy.
OpenOSPFd and kernel routing table (new variant)
Hi, I am testing OpenBGPD and OpenOSPFD on a couple of Soekris boxes. Even though I am using the latest code (-stable with ospfd kroute.c revision 1.48), I am having problems with the kernel routing table when OSPFD has to react to changes in the topology. I verified the problem on a virtual setup (a couple of OpenBSD machines on an ESX server), same result. The problem can be summarized as follows: When I take down an interface on one machine manually (e.g., ifconfig em1 down), then the OpenOSPFD on another machine has no problems to detect this, routes to subnets in the same AS will be adapted. However, the kernel continues to route packets to destinations outside of the AS still over the dead link. Fix: When I restart ospfd, the kernel routing table is OK again. Here is an example with 3 routers that I have put together using ESX/VMWare: /em1-(.1) --- 10.74.96.0/27 --- (.2)--em0\ +-- (.22)-em0-[R1] [R2] |\em2-(.33) -- 10.74.96.32/27 -- (.34)--em1/ 10.0.0.0/24 | +--- (.1)-em1-[R0]-em0 -- (62.2.0.0/16) Router R0: AS65002 announces 62.2.0.0/16 to R1 Router R1: AS65001 announces 10.74.96.0/21 to R0 Router R2: AS65001 has an IBGP session with R1 Loopback (lo1) addresses: R1=10.74.97.1, R2=10.74.97.2 This setting works fine, I can ping from R2 to machines in 62.2.0.0/16. Traffic between R1 and R2 flows over the upper link. However, lets assume that one of the links between R1 and R2 fails. [R1] # ifconfig em1 down (so eventually R2 will find out that I does not receive any OSPF packets on em0 anymore). It takes a while, but then ospfd on R2 has calculated the new topology: [R2] # ospfctl show rib Destination Nexthop Path TypeType Cost 0.0.0.1 10.74.96.33 Intra-Area Router11 10.74.96.0/2710.74.96.33 Intra-Area Network 21 10.74.96.32/27 10.74.96.34 Intra-Area Network 11 10.74.97.1/3210.74.96.33 Intra-Area Network 21 10.0.0.0/24 10.74.96.33 Type 1 ext Network 111 (uptime column deleted, to comply with the 72 char restriction of the mailing list). [R2] # ospfctl show fib flags: * = valid, O = OSPF, C = Connected, S = Static Flags Destination Nexthop *O 10.0.0.0/24 10.74.96.33 * 10.74.96.0/2110.74.96.1 *C 10.74.96.0/27link#1 *C 10.74.96.32/27 link#2 *O 10.74.97.1/3210.74.96.33 * 10.74.97.2/3210.74.97.2 * 62.2.0.0/16 10.74.96.1 *S 127.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.1 *C 127.0.0.1/8 link#0 * 127.0.0.1/32 127.0.0.1 *S 224.0.0.0/4 127.0.0.1 This is not good, as the (via IBGP learned) route to 62.2.0.0/16 still points to 10.74.96.1 (which is not directly reachable anymore). Now let's kill and restart ospfd on R2, then check again: # ospfctl show fib flags: * = valid, O = OSPF, C = Connected, S = Static Flags Destination Nexthop *O 10.0.0.0/24 10.74.96.33 * 10.74.96.0/2110.74.96.33 *C 10.74.96.0/27link#1 *C 10.74.96.32/27 link#2 *O 10.74.97.1/3210.74.96.33 * 10.74.97.2/3210.74.97.2 * 62.2.0.0/16 10.74.96.33 *S 127.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.1 *C 127.0.0.1/8 link#0 * 127.0.0.1/32 127.0.0.1 *S 224.0.0.0/4 127.0.0.1 Voil`, now it looks OK =) This is the ospfd.conf of R2: password=gurke router-id 0.0.0.2 redistribute connected redistribute static area 0.0.0.0 { interface lo1 interface em0 { metric 10 auth-type simple auth-key $password } interface em1 { metric 11 auth-type simple auth-key $password } } Any suggstions? Am I making a substantial error? I did not want to make this posting too long, so if somebody is interested in the detailed config files then I can make them available. Thanks, - Christian
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
On 2007/05/30 09:51, Jimmy Mitchener wrote: Is there a reason snapshots do not currently come with a src/sys.tar.gz as releases do? I would think this to be quite useful for people wishing/requiring building their own kernels, and using snapshots, as it would help to minimize damage from kernel/userland (and packages) coming out of sync. if you follow development code, you should really be able to work without such hand holding (-: reading source-changes helps avoid problems, cvs up -D [date] can help if you bump into something and need older code. anyway, snapshots aren't always quite the same as you get from -current source.
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
anyway, snapshots aren't always quite the same as you get from -current source. That's my point really. I would think it to be advantageous to have a snapshot of the code just as that snapshot was created (no pun intended). But yes, you could avoid the pitfalls I described previously by following source-changes. I was just curious as to why it wasn't included as it is for releases.
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Is there a reason snapshots do not currently come with a src/sys.tar.gz as releases do? I would think this to be quite useful for people wishing/requiring building their own kernels, and using snapshots, as it would help to minimize damage from kernel/userland (and packages) coming out of sync. I'm sure there's a good reason for them not being included, but I'm just curious as to what it is, I was unable to find anything in the archives. I think the basic logic applies - if you are running snapshots in anything other than a development or test environment, you are likely capable of keeping your other system components properly synchronized. That's to say you are able to keep your own source tree in line with that which is published, you are able to work with CVS, you are playing with patches supplied in tested and untested forms from developers, and you are willing to walk the razor's edge in some cases knowing full well that breakage may be part of the stroll down that path. In other words, at some level you are probably involved with the development process - even indirectly through testing of someone else's code. Now, if people are running snapshots as the basis for the development for some third-party application like an embedded system or a commercial app but they are only loosely and intermittently and incompletely tracking source changes, etc, then the risk of breakage will rise commensurately. The most stable way to run OpenBSD is run a released system. I run snapshots all over the place with no ill effects but I'm not doing that ad-hoc and without knowledge of what is happening in the overall development process. Your mileage may vary. --J
A big thanks
Hello Everyone; I just received my T-shirt and 4.1 cd set and just wanted to thank the team. Thanks guys, I appreciate it. Sincerely; Bray
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 10:26:09AM -0800, Jimmy Mitchener wrote: anyway, snapshots aren't always quite the same as you get from -current source. That's my point really. I would think it to be advantageous to have a snapshot of the code just as that snapshot was created (no pun intended). But yes, you could avoid the pitfalls I described previously by following source-changes. I was just curious as to why it wasn't included as it is for releases. Here's what *I* think (fwiw) snapshots are about, in no particular order... - Snaps serve as a starting point if you *really* want to follow -current (as in compiling latest stuff in the tree, testing patches, etc). - Snaps are an easy way to *kinda* follow -current without following -current. ;-) Here's what *I* think snapshots are NOT... - Mini -release, with all the goodies you've come to expect from *real* releases. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 09:51 -0800, Jimmy Mitchener wrote: Is there a reason snapshots do not currently come with a src/sys.tar.gz as releases do? I would think this to be quite useful for people wishing/requiring building their own kernels, and using snapshots, as it would help to minimize damage from kernel/userland (and packages) coming out of sync. I'm sure there's a good reason for them not being included, but I'm just curious as to what it is, I was unable to find anything in the archives. This has been answered in the past; it comes down to too much work for too little gain. You want to live safely, run -stable. Jimmy.
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Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Jimmy Mitchener wrote on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:51:02AM -0800: Is there a reason snapshots do not currently come with a src/sys.tar.gz as releases do? I would think this to be quite useful for people wishing/requiring building their own kernels, and using snapshots, as it would help to minimize damage from kernel/userland (and packages) coming out of sync. I'm sure there's a good reason for them not being included, but I'm just curious as to what it is, I was unable to find anything in the archives. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors :: It is sometimes asked if there is any way to get a copy of exactly :: the code used to build a snapshot. The answer is no. First, there :: is no significant benefit to this. Second, the snapshots are built :: as desired, as time permits, and as resources become available. :: On fast platforms, several snapshots may be released in one day. :: On slower platforms, it may take a week or more to build a snapshot. :: Providing tags or markers in the source tree for each snapshot would :: be quite impractical. Besides, snapshots often contain uncommitted tweaks, so a cvs tag would not even do the job for you.
Re: PFSYNC
Ok, I was using ports tabled version 1.04 wich haven't tablec and its man tabled.conf don't tell nothing about listen command. I downloaded 1.05 and all ok. Thanks. On 5/30/07, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:02:08PM +0200, Alberich de megres wrote: Maybe it's a silly question but don't know where to start with tabled :S I only got it installed. please..any help? With the caveat that I've never actually used it... It appears tabled.conf(5) documents an option to allow tabled to listen on a TCP port; tablec(8) documents an option to send commands to that socket. So if you can script tablec to fire at the right moment, this should work. If you are, for instance, parsing SSH requests out of log files, that need not be too difficult... Joachim -- TFMotD: mount_ados (8) - mount an AmigaDOS file system
Re: No i partition when connecting camera to USB
On 5/30/07, Jason Beaudoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/30/07, Martin Toft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When connecting a Nikon Coolpix L10 camera to my laptop via USB, no i partition shows up: snip Check out the gphoto2 libraries, there are a couple qt/gtk based gui frontends to extract the photos. Most of these cameras have proprietary methods of accessing the memory card in an attempt to convolute the process..so you often won't see the memory card as a sd* device..like you should. I also picked up a simple memory card reader from newegg, because while I could extract photos through the gphoto method, mpeg movies liked to crash the various apps I tried. A card reader is definitely the way to go. But I don't think your first paragraph is relevant to Martin's issue, his camera is showing up, it's just a disklabel issue. Greg
Re: No i partition when connecting camera to USB
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 05:09:55PM +0200, Martin Toft wrote: When connecting a Nikon Coolpix L10 camera to my laptop via USB, no i partition shows up: [snip] Thanks to krw@, the cause of the problem has been found! Yay! :) The msdos partition on my camera's flash memory extends past the end of the device. OpenBSD therefore refused to make the fake i label, as this condition is checked for in /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/i386/disksubr.c (line 193). After having commented out the check, rebuilt and installed a new kernel, I can now use my camera with OpenBSD. disklabel now warns me: $ sudo disklabel sd0 [snip] 16 partitions: # sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] c: 4019904 0 unused 0 0 # Cyl 0 - 250* i: 4022029 243 MSDOS # Cyl 0*- 250* disklabel: partition i: partition extends past end of unit The simple change: --- /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/i386/disksubr.c.orig Wed May 30 21:19:37 2007 +++ /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/i386/disksubr.c Wed May 30 21:23:54 2007 @@ -190,8 +190,6 @@ if (dp2-dp_typ == DOSPTYP_OPENBSD) continue; - if (letoh32(dp2-dp_size) lp-d_secperunit) - continue; if (letoh32(dp2-dp_start) lp-d_secperunit) continue; if (letoh32(dp2-dp_size) == 0) I know it's not an optimal situation, but this is the way the in-camera software formatted the flash memory. Best regards, Martin
Re: Kernel interrupt timer?
Thanks for the reply guys. I'm using hfsc + altq and would really like a finer grain clock for better bandwidth management on low bandwidth queues. Though I didn't get a how to answer for this question I managed to get the clock to 1000hz by modifying the source file /usr/src/sys/conf/param.c, #define HZ 1000 and recompiling the kernel. Everything running fine so far and pf + altq seem to be doing a great job at shaping my network traffic. If I do have any problems with my new kernel I'll be sure to switch to a stock version and test before requesting help. Thanks to the OpenBSD team for their hard work and dedication to this great product. -- This is too troublesome
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Ingo Schwarze wrote: Besides, snapshots often contain uncommitted tweaks, so a cvs tag would not even do the job for you. Perhaps a timestamp of the exact moment the build started so you can. cvs -qz3 update -D 'timestamp' To get exactly the same source. I don't know well this is possible, but it sounds like an idea. # Han
cvsup/cvsync/anoncvs
Hi, i am goin to set up cvsup/anoncvs/cvsync server, but don't knwo how. Can you help me with configuration of these *cvs* servers? I have already write an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but w/o any answer. Thanks for help.
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
On 2007/05/30 21:47, Han Boetes wrote: Ingo Schwarze wrote: Besides, snapshots often contain uncommitted tweaks, so a cvs tag would not even do the job for you. Perhaps a timestamp of the exact moment the build started so you can. cvs -qz3 update -D 'timestamp' To get exactly the same source. ever noticed something like 'in snapshots for a week' mentioned in a commit log?
Re: No i partition when connecting camera to USB
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:28:27PM +0200, Martin Toft wrote: I know it's not an optimal situation, but this is the way the in-camera software formatted the flash memory. Discard that. The camera formats the flash memory just fine, and after several attempts I still cannot reproduce the situation. I'm pretty sure the bad partition was made in some approved way, though -- I didn't create it by issuing creative numbers to fdisk! Martin
Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100
Hello, i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail after 'Trying bsd' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug what happens/doesn't happen ? I've tried : - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim) - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1 - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd after 'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines : OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC then Trying bsd and stalled-nothing more on the screen. but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output. i tried following https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notes documentation too. security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i don't think it needs a firmware upgrade. Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information ? Thanks for any hints. Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine) and try to do the install on it. Landry
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/05/30 21:47, Han Boetes wrote: Perhaps a timestamp of the exact moment the build started so you can. cvs -qz3 update -D 'timestamp' To get exactly the same source. ever noticed something like 'in snapshots for a week' mentioned in a commit log? I can't say I have, nor that I can easily find it in the archives. Pray enlighten me. # Han
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Is there a reason snapshots do not currently come with a src/sys.tar.gz as releases do? Because every snapshot for every architecture is done on a different tree, and some are even done 5-6 times a day. So this would require, if I can guess this right, 2.6GB per day. Supplied over a T1. Keep dreaming though.
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Ingo Schwarze wrote: Besides, snapshots often contain uncommitted tweaks, so a cvs tag would not even do the job for you. Perhaps a timestamp of the exact moment the build started so you can. cvs -qz3 update -D 'timestamp' To get exactly the same source. I don't know well this is possible, but it sounds like an idea. The most recent i386 snapshot contains 45 modified files which are not yet commited.
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
anyway, snapshots aren't always quite the same as you get from -current source. That's my point really. I would think it to be advantageous to have a snapshot of the code just as that snapshot was created (no pun intended). But yes, you could avoid the pitfalls I described previously by following source-changes. I was just curious as to why it wasn't included as it is for releases. Yes, it would be quite handy, but I won't do it. So I really do have three words for you. Boo hoo hoo. We develop for ourselves. Consider yourself LUCKY I even deem to make snapshots available...
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Besides, snapshots often contain uncommitted tweaks, so a cvs tag would not even do the job for you. About once a month there is a day where snapshots are a completely unmodified source tree. The other 29 or 30 days of the month, there are small needs to be tested by volunteers diffs put into the tree. This also serves to ensure that none of the architectures get busted, because those snapshots are also then rebooted on the build machines, and thus tested. With about half a million dollars of extra money I am sure that I could change this process and make it more suitable to the whiners.
Re: pf.conf settings
Sorry to bother again. Still no luck with pf in combination with ftp-proxy. A connection is made, but then it is blocked (getting no route to host): Here is the output of gftp: Looking up ftp.lontronics.nl Trying ftp.lontronics.nl:21 Connected to ftp.lontronics.nl:21 220 Gene6 FTP Server v3.9.0 (Build 2) ready... USER lontronics 331 Password required for lontronics. PASS 230 User lontronics logged in. SYST 215 UNIX Type: L8 TYPE I 200 Type set to I. CWD /lontronics 550 CWD failed. /lontronics : no such file or directory. PWD 257 / is current directory. Loading directory listing / from server (LC_TIME=C) PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (195,8,208,48,81,216) Cannot create a data connection: No route to host Disconnecting from site ftp.lontronics.nl I am running pf as firewall now with the following settings: pf.conf: # $OpenBSD: PF firewall rules $ # macros # 6667 is used for irc int_if= { bce0, wpi0 } tcp_services = { ssh, smtp, domain, www, pop3, auth, ftp, sftp, pop3s, imap, imaps, https, 6667 } udp_services = { domain, ntp } # options set block-policy drop set skip on lo0 #Translation nat-anchor ftp-proxy/* rdr-anchor ftp-proxy/* rdr on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port ftp - 127.0.0.1 port 8021 antispoof for $int_if inet # block all ipv6 and setup a default deny policy for ipv4 block inet6 all block all anchor ftp-proxy/* pass out on $int_if proto tcp to any port $tcp_services pass out on $int_if proto udp to any port $udp_services pass out on $int_if inet proto icmp all icmp-type echoreq inetd.conf: ftp stream tcp nowait root/usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -US ftp stream tcp6nowait root/usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -US rc.conf.local: pf=YES # enable pf firewall pf_rules=/etc/pf.conf # use /etc/pf.conf for pf setttings pflogd_flags=NO # disable logging on pf firewall ftpproxy_flags= # enable the internal ftp proxy Any suggestions of what settings are wrong? Any help would really be appreciated, because I did not find the info on the internet, news groups and forums Jan.
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
On May 30, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: With about half a million dollars of extra money I am sure that I could change this process and make it more suitable to the whiners. I was going to suggest a bake sale ... nah, maybe not ... -- Jack J. Woehr Director of Development Absolute Performance, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303-443-7000 ext. 527
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Theo de Raadt wrote: Besides, snapshots often contain uncommitted tweaks, so a cvs tag would not even do the job for you. About once a month there is a day where snapshots are a completely unmodified source tree. The other 29 or 30 days of the month, there are small needs to be tested by volunteers diffs put into the tree. This also serves to ensure that none of the architectures get busted, because those snapshots are also then rebooted on the build machines, and thus tested. With about half a million dollars of extra money I am sure that I could change this process and make it more suitable to the whiners. That sounds like the basis for a policy -- for a cool half million the OpenBSD project will fix the donor's favorite whiny problem*. :-) *Subject to final approval. No refunds. Offer void where prohibited by law. Please include 3 box tops from your favorite cereal.
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
On 2007/05/30 23:53, Han Boetes wrote: Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/05/30 21:47, Han Boetes wrote: Perhaps a timestamp of the exact moment the build started so you can. cvs -qz3 update -D 'timestamp' To get exactly the same source. ever noticed something like 'in snapshots for a week' mentioned in a commit log? I can't say I have, nor that I can easily find it in the archives. Pray enlighten me. s/snapshots/snaps/ then: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=118010880727343w=2 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=118011051523008w=2 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=117019844731812w=2 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=116830896422923w=2 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=116515339504442w=2 etc.
Needed: Loaner tape library
We need access to a robotic tape library (with barcode support) and a connected server (running -current) for thorough testing of the new Bacula port. Preferably something with multiple drives and an I/O slot. Speed is not as important as chio(1) compatibility. Thanks, Jason
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
Darrin Chandler wrote: Here's what *I* think snapshots are NOT... - Mini -release, with all the goodies you've come to expect from *real* releases. Which is kind of confirmed by the FAQ http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors There is no promise that the snapshots are completely functional, or even install. /Markus
Re: Instant Messenger client
stuart van Zee wrote: Does anyone know of a good, easy-to-use client for Yahoo instant messenger in the ports tree. Alternatively, you could use a web app. Meebo.com is a very cool web interface to ICQ, Jabber, AOL, Yahoo, Google, and Microsoft IMs. I've used Gtalk via meebo.com on Mozilla Seamonkey without flash or java enabled (I believe it is mostly javascript/AJAX with limited server-side) and it worked surprisingly well. I do an internet radio show (definitely not OpenBSD topical) and I need one that an intern can use on my spare laptop to interface with listeners etc. The laptop will be running OpenBSD 4.1 w/X and he will also be using firefox to check Yahoo email. please note, our intern is STUPID so he needs something fairly easy to use. Stuart van Zee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya can't fix stupid
Re: Instant Messenger client
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Diana Eichert wrote: If you're running a recent post 4.1 install there is also net/pidgin, a port for it was added to the tree on May 28th. diana FYI, I was just looking for GAIM on another machine and it seems to have been *replaced* by Pidgin. Lee
Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs
* Jimmy Mitchener [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-30 20:38]: anyway, snapshots aren't always quite the same as you get from -current source. That's my point really. I would think it to be advantageous to have a snapshot of the code just as that snapshot was created (no pun intended). But yes, you could avoid the pitfalls I described previously by following source-changes. I was just curious as to why it wasn't included as it is for releases. because it is extra work only done for releases. -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100
I had the same problem until I updated the firmware to 4.17.1 -Ted Landry Breuil wrote: Hello, i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail after 'Trying bsd' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug what happens/doesn't happen ? I've tried : - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim) - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1 - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd after 'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines : OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC then Trying bsd and stalled-nothing more on the screen. but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output. i tried following https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notes documentation too. security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i don't think it needs a firmware upgrade. Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information ? Thanks for any hints. Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine) and try to do the install on it. Landry . -- Theodore Bullock, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] B.Sc Software Engineering Bike Across Canada Adventure http://www.comlore.com/bike